Are we down?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:32 pm

1 (one) word: Yes or No. This is taking into account the hopeful return of Brady and Defour in January. Plus any signings.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Tread Warily · Post by **Tread Warily** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:37 pm

Maybe.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:37 pm

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:37 pm

No chance

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:37 pm

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:37 pm

Going off today's performance yes.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:38 pm

No

but things had better change soon.
Start by getting Ward, Lowton and McNeill in the starting XI.
Taylor will never,ever be a PL full back. He has no pace of the mark, a must for FB, and under pressure he has no composure.
Lennons best days are behind him. All he offers is effort and that should be a pre-requisite.
Lowton is just better than Bardsley, at both ends of the field.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:39 pm

No. Plain daft to say otherwise. Weve played 5 games, only one of them a winnable home game.

Today wasnt great but in truth the difference between today and lots of away games last season was a bit of confidence and belief.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:40 pm

No - things have to change but it’s game 5.

Plenty time to get things right but it gets harder and harder the longer this run continues.

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:40 pm

Yes..
Couldn't score in a brothel and it's too easy for the other teams..

Leepick21 · Post by **Leepick21** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:41 pm

Yes

But start another thread on this after game 10

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:42 pm

Yes but depends how poor the other bottom sides are

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:42 pm

Yes, looked as much after the Watford game tbh.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:42 pm

No - but it will be a long season

SandyLaneClaret · Post by **SandyLaneClaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:42 pm

piston broke wrote:No

but things had better change soon.
Start by getting Ward, Lowton and McNeill in the starting XI.
Taylor will never,ever be a PL full back. He has no pace of the mark, a must for FB, and under pressure he has no composure.
Lennons best days are behind him. All he offers is effort and that should be a pre-requisite.
Lowton is just better than Bardsley, at both ends of the field.

nail on head here. Except McNeill is not the immediate answer.

Tarksforengland123 · Post by **Tarksforengland123** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:43 pm

claretspice wrote:No. Plain daft to say otherwise. Weve played 5 games, only one of them a winnable home game.

We are a premier league side and last season we beat Chelsea 3-2. All games should be winnable with giving our full effort and skills; which we’ve yet to do.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:43 pm

No. There are 6 teams.worse than us

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:44 pm

Leepick21 wrote:Yes

But start another thread on this after game 10

Palace fans probably had a thread exactly like this after 10 games last season which would make interesting reading now because then look what happened!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:45 pm

Well that one word went out the window.

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:45 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Palace fans probably had a thread exactly like this after 10 games last season which would make interesting reading now because then look what happened!

But we don't have Wilfried Zaha

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:45 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:No. There are 6 teams.worse than us

I'm not at all convinced that's true.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

If we don’t take minimum six points from next 9 available, yes, we are.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Palace fans probably had a thread exactly like this after 10 games last season which would make interesting reading now because then look what happened!

Yeah they sacked their inept manager and brought someone in who knew what he was doing.

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:No. There are 6 teams.worse than us

Who??

Cardiff..?
Newcastle?
Brighton..?
West Ham
Southampton
Huddersfield

Can't see us beating any of them.. nill nill at best

Thick necker · Post by **Thick necker** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

No chance. How can we go down when we have the likes of Hendrick & Lennon to put the fear of God up our opponents?

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

Tarksforengland123 wrote:We are a premier league side and last season we beat Chelsea 3-0. All games should be winnable with giving our full effort and skills; which we’ve yet to do.

Did we?

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

probably unless someone has big sams number

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:47 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:Who??

Cardiff..?
Newcastle?
Brighton..?
West Ham
Southampton
Huddersfield

Can't see us beating any of them.. nill nill at best

Cardiff hudds brighton all way below us in standard

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:47 pm

Of course we're not down for goodness sake. It would be daft to sugar coat that horrific performance because it was rotten, but we're capable of turning it around. I would dearly like to know what our patterns of play are going forward, because I've never seen a premier league team so clueless with the ball. You could clearly see where wolves we're trying to attack us, patterns of play, movement off the ball and confidence to run into areas knowing a pass would come. We were just completely static off the ball, and had no options whatsoever.

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:48 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:No. There are 6 teams.worse than us

I'll settle for there being 3.

italianclaret88 · Post by **italianclaret88** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:48 pm

NO...stop being desperate...

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:49 pm

We are on the up.Good performance from Tarks and Joe.
But Jack Cork was off the pace and Lennon kept disappearing off the wing giving Bardsley no outlet.
Our constant slowing the game down didnt help but overall we were better than last week
McNeil should be playing after a string of good performances and Matty Vydra needs to start v Bournemouth.
Things will get better UTC

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:50 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Cardiff hudds brighton all way below us in standard

Brighton would **** over us (unfortunately)
Huddersfield and Cardiff would be draws.. but we will definitely lose in wales

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:52 pm

Are we in a worse position than Crystal Palace at this stage last season?

Turned out alright for them in the end.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Far too early to ask this question which it is why its so stupid. The sensible answer should be NO (exactly because it is so early - look at Palace last season)

But that effectively papers over the difficulties we are currently experiencing. Our midfield is really struggling to create, roo many players are below par and we dont really have many options to change this.

There look to be others worse than us - eg Huddersfield, Cardiff - and others we can finish above - eg West Ham, Newcastle, Fulham, Wolves - but we need to see that team from last year starting to resurface.

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:53 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Are we in a worse position than Crystal Palace at this stage last season?

Turned out alright for them in the end.

Yes because they had better players and a board that would back the manager come January.

careyclaret · Post by **careyclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:53 pm

No, obviously not, but if we play like that in most games we will be.

Longsidebogs · Post by **Longsidebogs** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:54 pm

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:56 pm

Relegation form, relegation football.

But no, we’re not down yet.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:56 pm

Right_winger wrote:Yeah they sacked their inept manager and brought someone in who knew what he was doing.

Oh, yeah. I'd forgotten about that. It's a call to Big Sam A then!

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:57 pm

We’ve conceded 55 scoring opportunities in the last two away games. I’d say something needs to change pretty bloody quick or we will really struggle.

I don’t think we look that fit tbh and I’m wondering if they’ve tried to implement a new pre season programme due to Europa and it simply hasn’t worked

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:00 pm

No

Had Corky got his legs sorted we'd have escaped with a season changing point. We need some mental strength in that dressing room to pull it together - now is when the like of Mee, Hart and Barnes need to be puffing their chest out and winding the others up.

ClaretRock · Post by **ClaretRock** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:01 pm

Stupid one word answer. It will depend on Brady and Defore returning and hitting the ground running. We keep playing like that we will go down though. Until then we need to keep it tight and go to war every game, maybe try three at the back with Lennon and JBG Wing backs seem as Lennon is so reluctant to take on players and JBG getting lost (attacking wise) the further into the game we get.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:03 pm

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:13 pm

SGr wrote:Relegation form, relegation football.

But no, we’re not down yet.

Agreed.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:59 pm

Tip, frank - when doing polls, don't forget that as well as "yes" and "no", you ought to include the option "this is a spectacularly stupid question that doesn't deserve an answer".

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:16 pm

dsr wrote:Tip, frank - when doing polls, don't forget that as well as "yes" and "no", you ought to include the option "this is a spectacularly stupid question that doesn't deserve an answer".

Already covered - it's what normal people do - they don't reply.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:34 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Already covered - it's what normal people do - they don't reply.

Why would you design a poll and deliberately exclude normal people from answering? A poll answered only by abnormal people would have limited merit.