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by claretblue » Sun May 16, 2021 7:04 pm
I know there's plenty non-football topics to justifiable moan about but:
today on TV coverage they had CarriGrrrrrr, Souness and Rednapp all offering their 'unbiased' comments on...er Liverpool!
Where was the ex-WBA player or God forbid an ex-Claret when we're playing...Fletcher, Casper even Blake would give some balance!
I feel there's too many offering opinions from pitch-side, TV studio and even in the changing rooms but surely (if we've got to have pundits) it would be better for the neutral to have non-biased comments!
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by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 16, 2021 7:06 pm
claretblue wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:04 pm
I know there's plenty non-football topics to justifiable moan about but:
today on TV coverage they had CarriGrrrrrr, Souness and Rednapp all offering their 'unbiased' comments on...er Liverpool!
Where was the ex-WBA player or God forbid an ex-Claret when we're playing...Fletcher, Casper even Blake would give some balance!
I feel there's too many offering opinions from pitch-side, TV studio and even in the changing rooms but surely (if we've got to have pundits) it would be better for the neutral to have non-biased comments!
You must have been fuming about the studio guests for our game yesterday
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by thegoldengoatee » Sun May 16, 2021 7:31 pm
Carragher does Liverpool/Everton games.
Neville does Utd/City.
Alan Smith does Arsenal/Leicester.
All totally unbiased of course.
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by SalisburyClaret » Sun May 16, 2021 7:34 pm
If they had any insight at all it would help, but they just state the blindingly obvious and struggle with their grammar
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by ClaretTony » Sun May 16, 2021 7:44 pm
claretblue wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:04 pm
I know there's plenty non-football topics to justifiable moan about but:
today on TV coverage they had CarriGrrrrrr, Souness and Rednapp all offering their 'unbiased' comments on...er Liverpool!
Where was the ex-WBA player or God forbid an ex-Claret when we're playing...Fletcher, Casper even Blake would give some balance!
I feel there's too many offering opinions from pitch-side, TV studio and even in the changing rooms but surely (if we've got to have pundits) it would be better for the neutral to have non-biased comments!
An ex-Claret & a Burnley fan yesterday.
Souness is excellent though.
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by tarkys_ears » Sun May 16, 2021 7:52 pm
I've long given up watching anything but the game itself.
Even then, the commentary is so biased, I wish I could turn that off too!
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by ClaretTony » Sun May 16, 2021 7:56 pm
tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:52 pm
Even then, the commentary is so biased, I wish I could turn that off too!
None more so than that woman on our game yesterday
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by boatshed bill » Sun May 16, 2021 7:56 pm
Have a listen to Joey Barton with Phil Bird on the Leeds game, he is absolutely spot on.
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by welsbyswife » Sun May 16, 2021 7:57 pm
What chuckles me is how they all just follow the bandwagon. Like fawning over Mason Mount. He seems to be the latest darling of the pundits, taking over from Declan Rice. Once one or two of them start raving over someone the rest just follow. Very few offer much insight. I agree Souness is good and doesn't allow his own opinion to be influenced by the hyperbole. Other than that the only ones who offer a contrary view tend to be the Savages and Suttons who just say anything to draw attention to themselves.
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by welsbyswife » Sun May 16, 2021 7:59 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:56 pm
None more so than that woman on our game yesterday
She was dreadful. She clearly knew the Leeds team well but knew nothing about our side so just trotted out the usual pre-determined comments about how we play etc. Hopeless.
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by Jakubclaret » Sun May 16, 2021 8:03 pm
tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:52 pm
I've long given up watching anything but the game itself.
Even then, the commentary is so biased, I wish I could turn that off too!
You can, you just simply mute the volume it’s standard when I’m viewing I prefer silence to waffle.
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by dougcollins » Sun May 16, 2021 8:49 pm
welsbyswife wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:59 pm
She was dreadful. She clearly knew the Leeds team well but knew nothing about our side so just trotted out the usual pre-determined comments about how we play etc. Hopeless.
Yep, it was Burnley Bingo - organised, physical, direct, aggressive, long ball, route one, etc, etc. It's a shame that the managers in the PL don't read the same stuff, every game would be a walkover.
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by KRBFC » Sun May 16, 2021 9:07 pm
welsbyswife wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:57 pm
What chuckles me is how they all just follow the bandwagon. Like fawning over Mason Mount. He seems to be the latest darling of the pundits, taking over from Declan Rice. Once one or two of them start raving over someone the rest just follow.
After some unfair doubt I'm well and truly on that bandwagon too, Mount is an incredible talent. One of the very best young talents in Europe atm.
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by tarkys_ears » Sun May 16, 2021 9:10 pm
Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 8:03 pm
You can, you just simply mute the volume it’s standard when I’m viewing I prefer silence to waffle.
I like to hear Sean Dyche's naughty words!
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by KRBFC » Sun May 16, 2021 9:13 pm
It's so irritating how Sky only cover the ''big 6'', they spend an hour before a game talking about Man United and Liverpool when neither are playing. How about lets discuss the upcoming game.....
The Sky mob were quick to shut down the Super League though, ''how dare the big 6 make a power grab''
it's literally Sky massaging the big 6s ego, Sky select big 6 teams on every week, Sky have well and truly based the entire division about 6 clubs. Sky are one of the biggest reasons these 6 clubs tried to breakaway and form a Super League, Sky complimented them so much, they felt so big and powerful and tried to screw the rest.
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by welsbyswife » Sun May 16, 2021 9:38 pm
KRBFC wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 9:07 pm
After some unfair doubt I'm well and truly on that bandwagon too, Mount is an incredible talent. One of the very best young talents in Europe atm.
He's tidy enough but not seen anything to suggest he is an "incredible" talent. Grealish far better but he won't start for England because Southgate will just follow the media hullabaloo.
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by KRBFC » Sun May 16, 2021 9:45 pm
welsbyswife wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 9:38 pm
He's tidy enough but not seen anything to suggest he is an "incredible" talent. Grealish far better but he won't start for England because Southgate will just follow the media hullabaloo.
head and shoulders Chelsea's best player this season, I think Grealish is a great player too. I'd have Mount Foden Grealish behind Kane in the Euros.
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by welsbyswife » Sun May 16, 2021 9:50 pm
Hope he proves me wrong. I'd have the same but with Sterling instead of Mount. Certainly plenty of exciting options. Just a worry that we hardly seem to have played our strongest side going into a tournament. Unlike Belgium who know their best 11 very well. But that's way off topic for this thread!
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by Steve1956 » Sun May 16, 2021 10:19 pm
I've started sussing out foreign channel streams... I havnt a clue what they are rambling on about...problem solved
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by Vegas Claret » Sun May 16, 2021 10:35 pm
KRBFC wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 9:45 pm
head and shoulders Chelsea's best player this season, I think Grealish is a great player too. I'd have Mount Foden Grealish behind Kane in the Euros.
you and I used to disagree on all sorts, you need to stop posting sensible stuff !

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by tim_noone » Sun May 16, 2021 10:50 pm
The Fulham ..Burnley Cup tie was a pleasure to listen to. One man commentary...on the game and no one interrupting

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by timshorts » Mon May 17, 2021 10:04 pm
KRBFC wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 9:13 pm
It's so irritating how Sky only cover the ''big 6'', they spend an hour before a game talking about Man United and Liverpool when neither are playing. How about lets discuss the upcoming game.....
The Sky mob were quick to shut down the Super League though, ''how dare the big 6 make a power grab''
it's literally Sky massaging the big 6s ego, Sky select big 6 teams on every week, Sky have well and truly based the entire division about 6 clubs. Sky are one of the biggest reasons these 6 clubs tried to breakaway and form a Super League, Sky complimented them so much, they felt so big and powerful and tried to screw the rest.
Well just wait for the euros. Half time in netherlands v Sweden will inevitably be wasted showing pictures of the outside of the England hotel and a pathetic story of how maguire has complained that he can't sleep because his head is too big for the nasty square European pillows and that declan rice has been ruled out with an ingrowing eyelash.
Hopefully, that nonsense will all be over after 3 games this time out.
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by 9thMay1987 » Tue May 18, 2021 7:05 am
The best for me are the rugby union pundits on Channel 5 on a Minday night.
They bounce off one another with knowledge, good humour with no one side favoured over another.
I always feel I am having a pint after the game listening to two blokes who know the game and talk sense.
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by Suratclaret » Tue May 18, 2021 7:48 am
Although not an ex-player, the late David Coleman, when talking about the art of commentary said the importance of knowing when to speak and when to keep quiet was paramount. In a different sport, the great Richie Benaud made a similar comment.
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by Swizzlestick » Tue May 18, 2021 9:01 am
Suratclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:48 am
Although not an ex-player, the late David Coleman, when talking about the art of commentary said the importance of knowing when to speak and when to keep quiet was paramount. In a different sport, the great Richie Benaud made a similar comment.
Can only imagine what he thinks of Martin Tyler then.
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by CaptJohn » Tue May 18, 2021 9:05 am
It's fairly simple, don't listen to them. I only turn the match on when it kicks off and turn it off at the final whistle. I make a cup of tea at half time. Haven't watched MOTD for years due entirely to having to listen to so called experts give their opinions. Simples

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