Anthony Martial on loan?

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:55 am

He wants a move from United but no interest as yet. I would have him at Burnley for remainder of this season, especially as we will have a fixture backlog and it would put him in the shop window after he has banged a few in for us.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:57 am

Or are there 2 Anthony Martial?

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:59 am

He'd be an excellent signing. Problem is we wouldn't have a chance of getting him.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:03 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:55 am
Anthony Martial on loan?

It's Christmas, not April Fool's Day

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:10 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:59 am
He'd be an excellent signing. Problem is we wouldn't have a chance of getting him.

Wreck it Ralf has said nobody has been in for him yet.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:11 pm

A non scoring striker ?We've got 4 already

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:12 pm

Whilst he's undoubtedly a very talented player we're well below the level of club that he's seeking a move to.

Amusingly there used to be a clause in his transfer deal, if he won the Ballon d'Or before 2019, Monaco got a big chunk of money, £7 million ish

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:12 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:10 pm
Wreck it Ralf has said nobody has been in for him yet.

We'd still have absolutely no chance of getting him. Firstly because he wouldn't come here and, secondly, because we couldn't afford him.

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:16 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:11 pm
A non scoring striker ?We've got 4 already

I seem to remember him scoring at least a couple of quality goals against us.

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:20 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:03 pm
It's Christmas, not April Fool's Day

It’s not as daft a suggestion as you may think. Several of our players are probably his neighbours in Cheshire and it would be an ideal loan move for him to resurrect his career. Or let’s just look at realistic targets like that big lump Kiefer Moore?

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:24 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:20 pm
It’s not as daft a suggestion as you may think. Several of our players are probably his neighbours in Cheshire and it would be an ideal loan move for him to resurrect his career. Or let’s just look at realistic targets like that big lump Kiefer Moore?

He's on £250k a week and apparently United would want £6m for half season loan fee.

We need to look at players that we could sign.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:26 pm

Not banking on this one coming off, I must admit. Suspect the link with Atletico Madrid is more realistic.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:39 pm

ecc wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:26 pm
Not banking on this one coming off, I must admit. Suspect the link with Atletico Madrid is more realistic.

Aye, but if Atletico falls through, we must be next on his list.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:55 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:24 pm
He's on £250k a week and apparently United would want £6m for half season loan fee.

We need to look at players that we could sign.

If it's 6m without any wages I would say yes.

Having pace for the long ball passers to aim for would be brilliant when we are under pressure.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:58 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:55 pm
If it's 6m without any wages I would say yes.

Having pace for the long ball passers to aim for would be brilliant when we are under pressure.

But he wouldn't come here.

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:10 pm

His song from us could be

Tony Martial comes from Manc

Uptheclarets posters said he had no chance

It will be six million plus wages down the drain

Tony Martial scores again

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:12 pm

Why don’t we see if we can get Ronaldo as well. Maybe even Pogba?

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:14 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:12 pm
Why don’t we see if we can get Ronaldo as well. Maybe even Pogba?

I cannot recall those two putting in a transfer request? You are just trying to be clever now and failing miserably.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:15 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:14 pm
I cannot recall those two putting in a transfer request? You are just trying to be clever now and failing miserably.

Why not? There just as likely to happen as Martial coming to Burnley

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:20 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:20 pm
It’s not as daft a suggestion as you may think. Several of our players are probably his neighbours in Cheshire and it would be an ideal loan move for him

Yeah, they could all car share

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:21 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:15 pm
Why not? There just as likely to happen as Martial coming to Burnley

Who would be your ideal transfer targets then, bearing in mind we will probably be playing twice a week from January until the end of the season?

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:25 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:20 pm
Yeah, they could all car share

Well Ashley Barnes couldn’t give em a lift in his Mercedes Vito minibus anymore since he had to surrender his drivers licence

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:27 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:21 pm
Who would be your ideal transfer targets then, bearing in mind we will probably be playing twice a week from January until the end of the season?

Cheick Doucoure and Mohammed Bayo

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:27 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:25 pm
Well Ashley Barnes couldn’t give em a lift in his Mercedes Vito minibus anymore since he had to surrender his drivers licence

And here's me thinking he was injured

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:29 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:27 pm
Cheick Doucoure and Mohammed Bayo

Reasonable shouts

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:31 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:29 pm
Reasonable shouts

Both should be within our wage bracket and I imagine similar to lower cost than Cornet.

Both young but good enough to start for us. Build a team for the next 5 seasons

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:54 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:58 pm
But he wouldn't come here.

He might not.

He can only say no. Not the end of the world but you might as well ask.

I didn't think Bolton could sign Jay Jay Okocha or Blackburn Shearer?

Football is a strange game when you offer the right money.

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:41 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:54 pm
He might not.

He can only say no. Not the end of the world but you might as well ask.

I didn't think Bolton could sign Jay Jay Okocha or Blackburn Shearer?

Football is a strange game when you offer the right money.

At last a bit of sense. If you don’t ask you have no chance of getting. And Martial would certainly enhance our squad for the remainder of the season.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:44 pm

My problem with this suggestion is how in gods name are we supposed to finance a deal like that? Let’s say he’s on 250k a week that’s 6m for a 6 month loan. Then if United want a loan fee on top off that you could be talking the best part of 10-11m on one player for 6 months.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:46 pm

he's way too lazy to play at the top level, he'd bring his bed and have a sleep in a relegation fight

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:48 pm

I won’t be holding my breath that a £200,000pw player could be heading to Burnley.

PadihamThickNeck · Post by **PadihamThickNeck** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:48 pm

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:49 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:41 pm
At last a bit of sense. If you don’t ask you have no chance of getting. And Martial would certainly enhance our squad for the remainder of the season.

It makes no sense at all really.

Peter Loo · Post by **Peter Loo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:50 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:55 am
He wants a move from United but no interest as yet. I would have him at Burnley for remainder of this season, especially as we will have a fixture backlog and it would put him in the shop window after he has banged a few in for us.

We only want players here who are better then we already have ..and that we can afford.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:44 pm
My problem with this suggestion is how in gods name are we supposed to finance a deal like that? Let’s say he’s on 250k a week that’s 6m for a 6 month loan. Then if United want a loan fee on top off that you could be talking the best part of 10-11m on one player for 6 months.

I would be surprised if he is on 12m a year, but if we brought one superstar in at 6m for the remainder of the season.
He scores goals that win games. He keeps us up. Earns us an extra 10m in place money moving us up 5 places.
Puts another 3k back on the gates.
Sells shirts and increases media interest in the club.

You can see why clubs would want to take the risk.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:06 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:00 pm
I would be surprised if he is on 12m a year, but if we brought one superstar in at 6m for the remainder of the season.
He scores goals that win games. He keeps us up. Earns us an extra 10m in place money moving us up 5 places.
Puts another 3k back on the gates.
Sells shirts and increases media interest in the club.

You can see why clubs would want to take the risk.

I think it makes sense when you can afford it. If you can’t afford it you are just betting the ranch

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:11 pm

Fantasy football

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:37 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:00 pm
I would be surprised if he is on 12m a year, but if we brought one superstar in at 6m for the remainder of the season.
He scores goals that win games. He keeps us up. Earns us an extra 10m in place money moving us up 5 places.
Puts another 3k back on the gates.
Sells shirts and increases media interest in the club.

You can see why clubs would want to take the risk.

Not that I think for a second that we could sign Martial but I agree completely with this reasoning as to why it could make sense commercially. It could easily pay for itself.

Generally I don’t like loan signings - I’d rather we develop our own players - but in our position I think we should at least be exploring very ambitious ones like this. You’ve got to be in it to win it and the odd one might just come off.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:51 pm

I doubt we'll sign Martial, and his record at Man U is about 1 in 3 in the Prem, which for an attacking side like them is fairly average, however it's undeniable that we lack genuine pace, and he'd certainly offer that, equally only 5 goals in 29 PL appearances since the start of the 20/21 season hardly suggests he's the answer to our goal scoring issues, especially if he's on crazy money, plus how would such a signing affect the rest of our squad, harmony is important particularly in the midst of a relegation fight.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:10 pm

I can’t believe we are having actual serious replies to Martial on loan.

SouthLondonexile · Post by **SouthLondonexile** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:27 pm

I really rate Martial. He has certainly lost his way at Man Utd as have most of the entire squad.
I’m guessing he would relish the chance to revive his career in the Premiership, especially with Cornet alongside him.It may even help to change Woodys luck.
So yes get him on loan see what happens .

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:36 pm

He wants game time. Just depends if he wants to stay in his home or move to sunnier climates.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pm

Maitland Niles is going to cost Roma 0.5m loan fee with an option to buy for 12m.
We might be over exaggerating Martials cost.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:06 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pm
Maitland Niles is going to cost Roma 0.5m loan fee with an option to buy for 12m.
We might be over exaggerating Martials cost.

Not trying to be rude Quicken but I think you and a number of other posters have been playing too much fifa.

There is absolutely zero chance this deal would happen for a long list of reasons

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:10 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pm
Maitland Niles is going to cost Roma 0.5m loan fee with an option to buy for 12m.
We might be over exaggerating Martials cost.

AMN will be on a fraction of what Martial is on.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:11 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:10 pm
AMN will be on a fraction of what Martial is on.

Plus AMN was a youth player that cost the club next to nothing.

Martial is a 50m quid signing

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:13 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:11 pm
Plus AMN was a youth player that cost the club next to nothing.

Martial is a 50m quid signing

Correct. Doesn't matter anyway because there's not a chance we'd get him. It's pie in the sky stuff, it really is.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:24 pm

Well Martial isn't even in the Man U squad tonight, so it appears he's going somewhere in Jan, even if it isn't Burnley.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:25 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:24 pm
Well Martial isn't even in the Man U squad tonight, so it appears he's going somewhere in Jan, even if it isn't Burnley.

Widely reported he's asked to leave.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:38 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:25 pm
Widely reported he's asked to leave.

TBF having heard about how poor Man U are in the first half at SJP I'm not

he wants out.