That defeat is on Dyche.

[gandhisflipflop]

The failure to start cork. The failure to drop an out of form McNeil and Westwood, and even more galling, the failure to substitute these players which was clear to see for all, and instead take Weghorst off who for all his huff and puff, gave their defence something to think about with his presence at least. Surely the coaching staff can work out that our results and performances have been better with a cork and brownhill partnership in recent games. I expected cork to start today, I should have known better.

[texasbrit]

Dyche admitting it was his fault, hell will freeze over before that happens

[RVclaret]

Don’t worry there were just a few details we need to iron out

[CaptainKirk]

When you renew Season Tickets and arrange to pay via DD, is there a cooling off period in case you change your mind?

[BERNIEU]

When you renew Season Tickets and arrange to pay via DD, is there a cooling off period in case you change your mind?

You'll be getting 4 more home games now.

[BurnleyFC]

It’s absolutely on Dyche.

A ******* shambles. Again.

[CoolClaret]

I can’t for the life of me figure out why after winning 2 games on the spin against decent opposition, looking like we’ve turned a massive corner with partnerships developing in key areas of the pitch (Cork-Brownhill, Weghorst-Jay) you’d resort to the style of play that got us in this mess and drop two of the guys in those partnerships!

Staggering

He needs to stop looking at individual stats for xG and all that nonsense and look at the bigger picture - what makes the team better?

It’s certainly not shoehorning Cornet upfront and having Westwood hoof mindless balls into the channel

[ElectroClaret]

Talking on R/lancs now....not far away.... margins...
HOUSE!!!!

[ksrclaret]

Talking on R/lancs now....not far away.... margins...
HOUSE!!!!

I predicted we'd hear the small margins comment on the match thread after the first goal went in.

He's just become a real caricature of himself.

[Woodleyclaret]

A diabolical performance no excuses
Westwood and McNeil were shite against Chelsea yet get to start in this mist win game
A total pxxxtake

[expoultryboy]

I really can't understand his thinking today . When Cork and Brownhill started together we played some decent football ( and to feet ) . Plus Jay and Wout seemed to be getting a good understanding of each other . So why oh why does he revert back to what wasn't working ? Cornet is an impact player and a winger who can come on to try and change the game when/if required . He certainly didn't earn his huge salary today.

[NewClaret]

Totally agree. A huge fan but he’s letting us down at the moment and it’s not good enough. Needs to look at himself before sprouting **** about margins, etc.

[expoultryboy]

I think we must of been writing at the same time CoolClaret

[RVclaret]

I’d love to know what gets said between Dyche, Woan and Stone during games, what do we actually think it is?

I’ll go: ‘Which clogger can be bring on to win more flick ons?’

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

if he was honest it would be a chasm not a fine margin

[BabylonClaret]

Granted its a bit puzzling about the lack of Cork's tine in the last 3 games but although I think Jay and Weghorst look decent didn't cor et and Weghorst start against Brighton so you can see why they start today.

It's small details in the final 3rd. We are losing out on those again and again. Cirencester goes down for a soft pen and doesn't get it. Toney goes down for one just as soft and gets it plus a red.

But we should have gone I front really. Had we done so I would bank on us to see it out

[claretandy]

The details.... fine margins..... we knew the script beforehand, i'm sick of hearing it.

[KRBFC]

I said all along, I'd give him until the end of the season, he's earnt that.

I would like to see a change for next season though, with so many out of contract it's a huge chance to totally rebuild with an exciting forward thinking modern coach. I'm not bothered about Dyche's previous history in the Championship, it doesn't affect this current team at all, I'm not convinced playing like we are we'd be anywhere near automatic promotion places in the league below. We look more like WBA than Fulham.

[RVclaret]

I said all along, I'd give him until the end of the season, he's earnt that.

I would like to see a change for next season though, with so many out of contract it's a huge chance to totally rebuild with an exciting forward thinking modern coach. I'm not bothered about Dyche's previous history in the Championship, it doesn't affect this current team at all, I'm not convinced playing like we are we'd be anywhere near automatic promotion places in the league below. We look more like WBA than Fulham.

We should move goalposts to get the Bodo Glimt manager Knutsford

[FCBurnley]

Dyche is starting to make himself look stupid. Says the same thing over and over again. Loyalty to his players is admirable but his stubbornness to refuse to change is his Achilles heel.
He has done so much for our club that it seems wrong to critical. BUT just prior to and since the takeover he has lost his way. Don’t know if changed in his staff have played a part but I wouldn’t have Stone anywhere near my team ! Does the Chairman have enough football knowledge to change things for the better. I doubt it. Burnley doesn’t appear to be the same club I have supported for way too long. They seem totally distanced from the fans and Turf Moor is far from being a fortress. Today we were beaten 2-0 by a very poor team and that I think tells us where we are heading in the future. Would love to be proved wrong

[Vegas Claret]

it's astounding how he can stand there in his post match interview with a straight face and say we created chances. We created one which McNeil headed closer to Reading's goal than Brentford's. Jay hit the bar and that was it. Cornet was from a Brentford mistake

[KRBFC]

We should move goalposts to get the Bodo Glimt manager Knutsford

Solbakken made the KRBFC scouting list, exciting young talent. I'd take the pair of them in a heartbeat

[KRBFC]

I'd have rather of us lost that game being brave and trying everything to win it, if that was us giving everything to win that game then jesus we really are sh*t.

[Staniola]

There are some right idiots on here who know nothing about football

[uptheclarets86]

There are some right idiots on here who know nothing about football

Correct.

[AlargeClaret]

How poor are we when people think Jack Cork would have “ made a difference “ We’ve a squad of 12 players ultimately, a poor mid which cannot be changed this season . The only issue is to start with either Dwight or Jay

[brexit]

There are some right idiots on here who know nothing about football

So rather that attack posters making valid points give us your wise musings on why Dyche is not responsible for the defeat. The reply will probably mention garlick and the orient game

[gandhisflipflop]

There are some right idiots on here who know nothing about football

No need to put yourself down like that. I can teach you the rules of the game if need be?

[gandhisflipflop]

How poor are we when people think Jack Cork would have “ made a difference “ We’ve a squad of 12 players ultimately, a poor mid which cannot be changed this season . The only issue is to start with either Dwight or Jay

He may have made a difference, he may not, but recent results and performances with him in the sides suggests he deserves that chance wouldn’t you agree?

[FCBurnley]

Can’t imagine our starting XI in our first match in Championship.

[boatshed bill]

There are some right idiots on here who know nothing about football

Are you one?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Brentford scored after 85 mins yet Barnes remained on the bench.
I know he’s been poor for a few years but did we even try to give it a go?

[Silkyskills1]

There are some right idiots on here who know nothing about football

Possibly, but there are some who view themselves as extremely knowledgeable tactically, recruitment wise and opinion based. Let's take on board their vast wealth of superior knowledge and listen to what or who they advocate for a better future for the football club.

[AlargeClaret]

He may have made a difference, he may not, but recent results and performances with him in the sides suggests he deserves that chance wouldn’t you agree?

I’d have kept him in ( just ) over AW , certainly against weaker opposition Cork can still do a job of sorts . That said it sums up our position perfectly that we’re debating over which over the hill CM’s to use . Noble servants indeed , but we can just hope the pitiful lack of investment the last few yrs doesn’t bite us on the ar@e

[Hedontplayforyou]

Absolutely pathetic performance today. Hesitancy on the ball in the middle of the park on the odd occasion it was on the floor, with lacklustre passes that I’d expect my 11 year old to make. It was abysmal all round today.

Westwood should not have been reinstated over Cork, and why he’s persisted with it I’ll never know.

Cornet doesn’t press like the rest of our attackers and fails to hold the ball up well enough, he’s not a natural striker . But hoofing it up to him and Wout doesn’t help either . Brentford were there for the taking today and it cwould have been that morale boosting victory and move in the table that could well have propelled us to safety, however after watching that I feel we are now done for. I hate to say it but I think we are out of ideas and too many heads are down.

[dougcollins]

The thing that I really can't understand is why we played the way we did against Brighton. Just an aberration?

[Boss Hogg]

Personally bored of the type of football and tactics Dyche persists with. As a season ticket holder I’ve had self imposed breaks from it this season. I’ve renewed for next season in the Chanpiinship but can’t watch too much more of this dull cr*p this season. We arent competitive because we don’t look like scoring, lack creativity and have the weakest midfield in the PL by a country mile. However Dyche tries the same approach
nearly every game hoping that something will change.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Personally bored of the type of football and tactics Dyche persists with. As a season ticket holder I’ve had self imposed breaks from it this season. I’ve renewed for next season in the Chanpiinship but can’t watch too much more of this dull cr*p this season. We arent competitive because we don’t look like scoring, lack creativity and have the weakest midfield in the PL by a country mile. However Dyche tries the same approach
nearly every game hoping that something will change.

After watching Huddersfield on Friday night. I would say our midfield is probably weaker than a fair few in the league below.

O’Brien and Russell for Huddersfield would run rings around ours

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Such an inept performance by players like Westwood who should be nowhere near the team. Add to that McNeil and coaching staff laughing when he missed that header just about summed another depressing day up.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

He’s earning a supposed 80k a WEEK !!

He’s going to bankrupt us when we go down

[alboclaret]

Talking on R/lancs now....not far away.... margins...
HOUSE!!!!

The one that's oining me is the "we're not the real deal, nor do we think we are"

Just filling time and drawing out a sentence.

Or "take on the challenge of what is the premier league"

[Barlickclaret]

After watching Huddersfield on Friday night. I would say our midfield is probably weaker than a fair few in the league below.

O’Brien and Russell for Huddersfield would run rings around ours

What a load of sh**e, they are in a league below and are nowhere near prem class, mitrovic for Fulham as scored 30 odd goals, vbut he couldn't do it in prem,, totally different standard.

[Wile E Coyote]

I can’t for the life of me figure out why after winning 2 games on the spin against decent opposition, looking like we’ve turned a massive corner with partnerships developing in key areas of the pitch (Cork-Brownhill, Weghorst-Jay) you’d resort to the style of play that got us in this mess and drop two of the guys in those partnerships!

Staggering

He needs to stop looking at individual stats for xG and all that nonsense and look at the bigger picture - what makes the team better?

It’s certainly not shoehorning Cornet upfront and having Westwood hoof mindless balls into the channel

clowns the lot of you. Put simply, you do not have a football brain amongst you.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What a load of sh**e, they are in a league below and are nowhere near prem class, mitrovic for Fulham as scored 30 odd goals, vbut he couldn't do it in prem,, totally different standard.

Haha mitrovic has better goal scoring ratio than any of our recognised strikers in the prem (not classing cornet as a striker).

Keep thinking that we are better than teams like Huddersfield. We are not.

[Newcastleclaret93]

clowns the lot of you. Put simply, you do not have a football brain amongst you.

As a general rule of thumb, people that result to name calling are usually the ones that “do not have a football brain”

[ksrclaret]

I love it when Wile E Coyote logs on late into the night after a skinful and just hurls abuse in all directions.

TalkSPORT usually bear the brunt of it, but it can often be indiscriminate.

[Wile E Coyote]

As a general rule of thumb, people that result to name calling are usually the ones that “do not have a football brain”

At least I have thumbs, unlike the angry mob on here .

[Wile E Coyote]

I love it when Wile E Coyote logs on late into the night after a skinful and just hurls abuse in all directions.

TalkSPORT usually bear the brunt of it, but it can often be indiscriminate.

A a teetotaller, I refute your whimsicality with disdain. Are you perhaps a Dyche out sheep, who resorts to cheapening another point of view by suggesting alcohol must be a factor. Shame on you.

[Newcastleclaret93]

At least I have thumbs, unlike the angry mob on here .

There’s only one person angrily calling people names.

[ksrclaret]

A a teetotaller, I refute your whimsicality with disdain. Are you perhaps a Dyche out sheep, who resorts to cheapening another point of view by suggesting alcohol must be a factor. Shame on you.

I’m actually a great fan of yours, Wile, I mean no hostility. I always look forward to reading the well-balanced and subtle nuance in your posts.

As for the alcohol, you misunderstood me. The skinful to which I referred was Irn Bru.