F1 2022 Season

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:41 pm

I know we have a few F1 fans on here with good threads/debates over the past few years.

The 2022 F1 season starts this weekend in Bahrain with brand new regulations designed at bringing the field closer together, I always hope for McLaren to do well and hopefully a few podiums and possible win for Lando but this season I sense Hamilton has a burning desire in him and I can see him crushing the field, if the Merc is good enough for him.

Let's try and keep the thread polite and respectful to other posters to stop it being pulled and all enjoy a new F1 season!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:43 pm

Seen they have made the rule firm that now that ALL cars have to un lap themselves before the race restarts rather than ‘some’, to avoid another Abu Dhabi situation. Looking forward to seeing how George Russell gets on at Mercedes in particular this season.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:44 pm

Echo RVs point, Russell has shown great promise so hopefully will have a good season.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:50 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:43 pm
Seen they have made the rule firm that now that ALL cars have to un lap themselves before the race restarts rather than ‘some’, to avoid another Abu Dhabi situation. Looking forward to seeing how George Russell gets on at Mercedes in particular this season.

I can see this being a bedding in season to get used to the set up and the team etc but out on track if side by side team orders will dictate for Russell not to challenge Hamilton.

I think if Hamilton wins this season he will retire and then for next year George will become the number 1 driver to pursue World titles.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:51 pm

Well it simply be a Merc-Red Bull battle, or will others emerge, hopefully the latter as it can become boring when a couple of teams dominate.

You do have to feel Hamilton will have a point to prove after the shambles of last season when he will consider he was cheated out of the title.

And Verstappen will have the mantle of the man they all want to beat, and that brings a different element that's he's never encountered before.so it'll be intriguing how he reacts to that challenge.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:52 pm

Looking forward to the upcoming season. Obviously fascinating how the Hamilton and Verstappen rivalry plays out. Another one also wanting Norris and Russell to do well. Interested to see how Ferrari and particularly Le Clerc get on - should be a better season for them.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:01 pm

I'm not into F1 but one of the locals here in Vegas told me we were supposed to be getting a race - you guys heard anything ?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:06 pm

Looking forward to Lewis winning his 9th World Championship this season..
.Go Lewis

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:12 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:01 pm
I'm not into F1 but one of the locals here in Vegas told me we were supposed to be getting a race - you guys heard anything ?

Well Russia clearly won't be hosting F1 this season, so they will have to find alternative venues.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:01 pm
I'm not into F1 but one of the locals here in Vegas told me we were supposed to be getting a race - you guys heard anything ?

Its been there before ...
https://www.cbssports.com/motor-sports/ ... er-report/

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:17 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:12 pm
Well Russia clearly won't be hosting F1 this season, so they will have to find alternative venues.

my mate said this was started to be talked about a couple of years ago, maybe it will happen.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:01 pm
I'm not into F1 but one of the locals here in Vegas told me we were supposed to be getting a race - you guys heard anything ?

Looking to add a Vegas grand prix by next season at the earliest but possibly 2024.

Backers for the Vegas grand prix were at Austin last year to put their proposals to F1 bosses. Also a new race in America this year in Miami which I have seen a lot of drivers talk about that they're looking forward to it.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:26 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:21 pm
Looking to add a Vegas grand prix by next season at the earliest but possibly 2024.

Backers for the Vegas grand prix were at Austin last year to put their proposals to F1 bosses. Also a new race in America this year in Miami which I have seen a lot of drivers talk about that they're looking forward to it.

ok cool - thanks for the info

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:40 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:21 pm
Looking to add a Vegas grand prix by next season at the earliest but possibly 2024.

Backers for the Vegas grand prix were at Austin last year to put their proposals to F1 bosses. Also a new race in America this year in Miami which I have seen a lot of drivers talk about that they're looking forward to it.

yep Liberty Media want 3 races in the USA if possible - they know that the Netflix race to survive has drummed up a lot of interest in the target youth market - many of which are Verstappen fans, understandably given relative ages and attitudes

- but I still can't help thinking it was Liberty Media who made the final call on the Masi decision in that last race - for the FIA to now come out and restate the rules that everyone knew yet were ignored and not change the result is a disgrace in my eyes - I have watched F! since the days of James Hunt and Lauder but no more - the whole thing has become a complete mockery.

what makes it worse is that Verstappen should have won the championship at a canter if he hadn't let his ego get in the way on certain corners with Hamilton, those decisions directly led to that situation in the last race and also cost his team many many millions in not winning the constructors championship - that they laud him still and have given him a massive new deal sends out the wrong message and I am left feeling he will either kill someone or leave them horrifically injured at some point before he is done.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:04 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:01 pm
I'm not into F1 but one of the locals here in Vegas told me we were supposed to be getting a race - you guys heard anything ?

Yes looks like it will happen..... talking about a route that will be a mile strip past the Bellagio fountains. Should be better than the last attempts in the 80's which was basically Caesers Palace carpark

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:10 pm

Sutton-Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:04 pm
Yes looks like it will happen..... talking about a route that will be a mile strip past the Bellagio fountains. Should be better than the last attempts in the 80's which was basically Caesers Palace carpark

That'll be interesting, will have to fix some potholes first !!!!!!!!

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:18 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:12 pm
Well Russia clearly won't be hosting F1 this season, so they will have to find alternative venues.

I’m hoping that goes to Portugal. Pretty disappointed the Portuguese came to F1’s aid during the pandemic but they couldn’t get a race in the extended 2022 calendar.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:23 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:06 pm
Looking forward to Lewis winning his 9th World Championship this season..
.Go Lewis

Really hope you’re right but they’ve been really slow in testing. Don’t think it’s sandbagging either - seems they haven’t got the set up right and are still suffering the “porpoising”. Bit worrying, after being robbed last year.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:27 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:18 pm
I’m hoping that goes to Portugal. Pretty disappointed the Portuguese came to F1’s aid during the pandemic but they couldn’t get a race in the extended 2022 calendar.

Portugal is pretty tough to drive on a simulator, never mind the skills needed in an actual F1 car, love the track and definitely should be on the calendar.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:38 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:27 pm
Portugal is pretty tough to drive on a simulator, never mind the skills needed in an actual F1 car, love the track and definitely should be on the calendar.

It may well be down to money and race fees - Bernie sent things down a specific course - took it further for CVC partners and now Liberty media need to recoup the billions they have paid for the ownership of the sport - American Private Equity must have its returns

Notsosuperstevedavis · Post by **Notsosuperstevedavis** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:42 pm

Want to see Hammy get his 8th Title and surpass Schumacher.
After that, I’ll hope for more English success from Lando or Russell.
Really enjoyed Russell’s drive when he had Hammy’s car for the weekend. Beat Bottas hands down in a car that didnt fit him.

After the debacle and bullying (in my opinion) from Red Bull of Masi, I sincerely hope they dont win a single race all season.
Odious team.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:44 pm

Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:42 pm
Want to see Hammy get his 8th Title and surpass Schumacher.
After that, I’ll hope for more English success from Lando or Russell.
Really enjoyed Russell’s drive when he had Hammy’s car for the weekend. Beat Bottas hands down in a car that didnt fit him.

After the debacle and bullying (in my opinion) from Red Bull of Masi, I sincerely hope they dont win a single race all season.
Odious team.

He got his 8th last season if he wins it this season it will be his ninth.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:46 pm

Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:42 pm
Want to see Hammy get his 8th Title and surpass Schumacher.
After that, I’ll hope for more English success from Lando or Russell.
Really enjoyed Russell’s drive when he had Hammy’s car for the weekend. Beat Bottas hands down in a car that didnt fit him.

After the debacle and bullying (in my opinion) from Red Bull of Masi, I sincerely hope they dont win a single race all season.
Odious team.

I didn’t mind Horner till I watched the Netflix doc, makes the skin crawl.

I Don't Eat Worms · Post by **I Don't Eat Worms** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:02 pm

Ferrari looked good in pre-season testing; of course, they've played it down (as seems standard for all the teams). Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc are deemed by many experts to be the best driver pairing on the grid, so if Ferrari deliver a car that can challenge it could be a much more closely fought title race

McLaren looked good in Barca, and if they sort the brakes issue they have the potential to make it 4 teams battling at the top. Merc look ropey, but we've been there before... if they can sort their porpoising issue they'll be back at the top. Red Bull look strong and are favourites for the weekend

Haas are vastly improved, and should be a mid-table runner. Could be a long season for Williams, but hopefully not as they're a team I like!

As for Horner, I quite like him (despite being a "Hamilton fan" I guess). Clearly on a wind-up, and manages to drag a good number of people in with it. Clearly knows what he's doing

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:56 pm

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:38 pm
It may well be down to money and race fees - Bernie sent things down a specific course - took it further for CVC partners and now Liberty media need to recoup the billions they have paid for the ownership of the sport - American Private Equity must have its returns

Almost certainly will CP. I think it only holds 90k and the government won’t be contributing. They’ll likely go with some Middle Eastern race where the local Sheikh is willing to line the Liberty pocket with gold. Personally much prefer the European races though. Also disgusting that there’s no German GP on the schedule.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:42 am

It's not a Sport really.

It is also "Climate Wrong" in every way...

It's about Money and Vanity. II's Corrupt and this goes back for decades. Follow the Money.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:10 am

On the back of the best season for years I'm looking forward to the reshuffle caused by the changes. The new cars look sublime too. Never a boring moment nowadays with all the drama and technicalities.
I'm hoping McLaren do well and Red Bull fail miserably.

Notsosuperstevedavis · Post by **Notsosuperstevedavis** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:13 am

I agree with the sentiment that Hammy got his 8th title last season.
And in time, MV’s title will be viewed as ‘not won on merit’ which will sting. Or at least I hope it does.
I’d even be hoping the media start poking him now with questions like
‘does it annoy you that the world think you’ve got number ‘1’ on your car under false pretences and you never earned the title?’

Sadly, the record books will say Hammy only currently has 7.

F1 had a chance on the evening of the race in the stewards room to see sense and rectify their humungous error, and never did.

I’d have loved to be a fly on the wall for them conversations.
Especially as the rule changes to the safety car ending have effectively confirmed they without doubt that they came to the wrong outcome on that evening.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:41 am

Should there even be a race in Bahrain?

Herd some tosh on the radio yesterday saying racing there helps to highlight the human rights abuses in the region. Seems to me NOT racing there and telling everyone why would be a sure fire way to achieve that.

Follow the money….

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:58 am

Vettel is out after testing covid positive

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:48 am

HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:42 am
It's not a Sport really.

It is also "Climate Wrong" in every way...

It's about Money and Vanity. II's Corrupt and this goes back for decades. Follow the Money.

The thread is about F1 not the Premier League

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:49 am

Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:13 am
I’d even be hoping the media start poking him now with questions like
‘does it annoy you that the world think you’ve got number ‘1’ on your car under false pretences and you never earned the title?’
evening.

I mean regardless of allegiances or how wrong that final race was at the end, let's not cloud the facts, both Verstappen and Hamilton deserved to win that title last year. Just because the upper echelons of Red Bull management got involved should not take away the season achievement that Verstappen and Hamilton gave us.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:58 am

Quite looking forward to this season with hopefully more open closer racing and caps on the ludicrous engine changes ,highlighted in the extreme by Merc fitting a totally new engine late in the season ( the race where they were penalised but LH just walked through the field with ease )
Be good to see how Russell handles “ team Lewis” and the continued improvement of Norris and McLaren . Throw Ferrari in the mix and it just might get close up top

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:12 am

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:48 am
The thread is about F1 not the Premier League

Had to log on just to like that..brilliant.

Notsosuperstevedavis · Post by **Notsosuperstevedavis** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:22 pm

We can acknowledge that MV put up a good fight and made and excellent spectacle and epitomised sport at its best.

This would be about the limits of my acknowledgment,
He was 2nd best the entire race and would have ultimately come away with 2nd best, for which there isnt a trophy. had it not been for Red Bull and Masi’s interference and sending a trophy that was within Hamilton's grasp, recorded delivery to a racer and team and driver that were, at face value claiming to be self ‘entitled’ to win the title.

Because someone has won several does not entitle anyone to ‘have a turn’

Its not some 5yr olds party playing ‘pass the parcel’ where everyone gets to have a turn.

And Masi fell for it

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:41 pm

I appreciate the Verstappen and Hamilton debate will continue but also remember throughout the season Mercedes and Toto did plenty of talking to Masi, even Toto at Silverstone asking Masi to check his e-mails due to Hamilton taking out Verstappen.

In that final race completely Hamilton had it and before that his weekend in Brazil was phenomenal but a World Title is not won in one race, so to claim Hamilton "won" that final race and deserves the title is unfair on Max's achievements throughout the season, he did win more races than Hamilton after all.

jos · Post by **jos** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:49 pm

I’m not sure if rules have changed for this season but I hope direct calls to the Race Director from teams during the race have been disallowed.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:04 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:49 pm
I’m not sure if rules have changed for this season but I hope direct calls to the Race Director from teams during the race have been disallowed.

They have, we now have a race director and 2 people on rotation helping him. Teams can still contact the 2nd in command but not the race director.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:05 pm

Qualifying at Bahrain underway. From practice Max seems the one to beat, Hamilton struggling, Ferrari looking strong and closer to the top two. McLaren struggling and Haas seem the biggest improved team from last season, they couldn't get any worse I suppose.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:03 pm

Charles Leclerc on pole for Ferrari, Verstappen 2nd, Hamilton down in 5th, Bottas out-qualifies Russell and Magnussen a great 7th for Haas.

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:08 am

Great to see Ferrari doing well. They better be careful, Horner will be demanding an investigation into them soon if they keep it up.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:14 pm

Anyone but Hamilton….

But I do like Carlos Sainz and Ferrari.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:29 pm

Watching the race is like watching paint dry. Early days but so far not good viewing

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:41 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:29 pm
Watching the race is like watching paint dry. Early days but so far not good viewing

Are you kidding? This race so far has been really good so far. Plenty of action.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:43 pm

Been okay so far. Good battle between Leclerc and MV. Hope Mercedes sort their car out so there’s all 3 teams going for wins.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:44 pm

A great race so far, great to see the cars can follow a lot closer this year. That battle over 3 laps between Verstappen and Leclerc was superb.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:10 pm

Biggest issue so far, the tyres are made of putty.
This was supposed to be a 2 stop race with the 3 hardest tyres they can choose from the 5 compounds .

Softs could not go 1/3 distance and the hards are so slow there is no point using them.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:14 pm

Come on LeClerc stick it to Verslappen

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:21 pm

Safety car with ten laps to go.
Max with steering issues.

Could be a 5 lap shoot out.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:22 pm

Going to be a good end, showed earlier in the race the Red Bull is much better on straight speed than Ferrari.