Cocaine usage at Football stadiums

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://theathletic.com/news/football-f ... q78Av8wud/

If caught using or selling class A drugs in a football stadium, a 5 yr ban could be your reward and seizure of passport if your team is playing abroad (not applicable to us )

[Venkys4eva]

Should be a lifetime ban and a prison sentence

[aggi]

If they don't give the police more money to enforce this (which in all likelihood they won't) then this will just be a headline with no action behind it other than if people are arrested for other offences and this is just added on top.

The recent Athletic article on this explained how it just takes too many police to try and enforce this at the moment. If you arrest someone you need to take a couple of your matchday force out of the frontline to take them to the police station and they don't have the numbers to do this.

[Venkys4eva]

If they don't give the police more money to enforce this (which in all likelihood they won't) then this will just be a headline with no action behind it other than if people are arrested for other offences and this is just added on top.

The recent Athletic article on this explained how it just takes too many police to try and enforce this at the moment. If you arrest someone you need to take a couple of your matchday force out of the frontline to take them to the police station and they don't have the numbers to do this.

They should have holding cells at the ground and take them all in one go.

[TheFamilyCat]

If they don't give the police more money to enforce this (which in all likelihood they won't) then this will just be a headline with no action behind it other than if people are arrested for other offences and this is just added on top.

The recent Athletic article on this explained how it just takes too many police to try and enforce this at the moment. If you arrest someone you need to take a couple of your matchday force out of the frontline to take them to the police station and they don't have the numbers to do this.

Isn't it the responsibility of the club to pay for policing in their stadium? Would the police force not just say they need more officers in the ground to enforce it and increase their bill?

[LAM]

My little lad needed the toilet, not the urinal, at half time. Had to wait 20 minutes to get him in there as so many younger lads were queuing for the crapper too.

Must have been a lot of dodgy pies consumed beforehand.

[TheFamilyCat]

They should have holding cells at the ground and take them all in one go.

I did think that myself!

[atlantalad]

Why not periodically use sniffer dogs in the ground side of turnstiles. I am sure the clubs can pay the cost of training and utilising the dogs. Would be good training for the dogs and trainers as well. Think of the chaos if one was parked outside the CFS toilets.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

There is a fluid that can be applied to flat surfaces, called Blokit, this helps reduce cocaine usage

[Lancasterclaret]

PNE away in the 2nd promotion season, two lads blatantly snorted it up at the sinks

[ClaretAndBlue94]

Why not periodically use sniffer dogs in the ground side of turnstiles. I am sure the clubs can pay the cost of training and utilising the dogs. Would be good training for the dogs and trainers as well. Think of the chaos if one was parked outside the CFS toilets.

The sniffer dogs outside the CFS Turnstiles are not very effective

[NottsClaret]

They had the sniffer dogs at the away end at Leeds. I can't imagine they were much use, considering the number of lads partaking in it inside the ground. It's going to be like the rules around standing, pitch invasions and the rest. Fine in principle but impossible to enforce.

[daveisaclaret]

Slapping a new headline prison sentence on a crime isn't even attempting to stop it, realistically. You can announce the death penalty, for as long as people know they'll get away with it why would it make a difference?

[Devils_Advocate]

The only way to address this is to do it at a society level. Football Clubs, Stewards and match day policing is not going to make any significant impact alone and social drug use is so prevalent in society today that tacking it anywhere is going to be hard

When we don't even seem capable of stopping our MPs who run the country from taking drugs in their place of work what chance have we got of stopping lads doing it in a boozy social environment.

The majority of drugs would be better legalised and controlled in the same way as drink and cigarettes but thats a whole other topic

[Quickenthetempo]

When you let something get so big as the cocaine trade is, there's no stopping it.

You can hope it dies out on it's own, but it's been available for too long now. Was it 50s/60s first available?
Or you can throw money at it and big punishments.

But with Police officers, politicians, Judges and other high up people using it regular then bribes will get around it.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

The only way to address this is to do it at a society level. Football Clubs, Stewards and match day policing is not going to make any significant impact alone and social drug use is so prevalent in society today that tacking it anywhere is going to be hard

When we don't even seem capable of stopping our MPs who run the country from taking drugs in their place of work what chance have we got of stopping lads doing it in a boozy social environment.

The majority of drugs would be better legalised and controlled in the same way as drink and cigarettes but thats a whole other topic

Someone on the radio made the point that they should start with Parliament for routine drug testing so as to set a good example

[Longsidelenny1882]

Our gates might be back down to 3 or 4 thousand if this comes in utc

[Rileybobs]

Why not periodically use sniffer dogs in the ground side of turnstiles. I am sure the clubs can pay the cost of training and utilising the dogs. Would be good training for the dogs and trainers as well. Think of the chaos if one was parked outside the CFS toilets.

Sniffer dogs were in force at Spurs, in fact my brother got pulled aside when one was sniffing around his arse. He had to empty all pockets and his wallet etc and was given a bit of an interrogation before he was allowed in.

[Loyalclaret]

Be interesting to see the number of people pulled/arrested in the cricketfield. We are told it is awash with coke yet the two dogs never seem to catch anyone. I'm sure we would have had a witty post of the police's twitter account if someone had been nicked with it.

Compared to Goodison where the police seem to have bin bags full of confiscated stuff whenever we visit.

[Inchy]

They should actively encourage the knuckle heads to take ecstasy.

Ive seen many people fight when pi55ed or coked up. Ive never seen someone kick off on ecstasy.

About same price as a twix as well

[jedi_master]

About same price as a twix as well

Sounds expensive

[IanMcL]

Drugs are not good. Nor are cigarettes or alcohol.
I drink alcohol but not much

I don't like cigarettes or the aftermath if you are close. I know nothing about drugs.

In all cases, it is not the person partaking, it is the outcomes of their behaviour and self control.

If no consequences to behaviour impinging on others, then I don't have an issue.

Not sure of the real need or point to drugs or fags.

[Swizzlestick]

They should actively encourage the knuckle heads to take ecstasy.

Ive seen many people fight when pi55ed or coked up. Ive never seen someone kick off on ecstasy.

About same price as a twix as well

Certainly could've done with a Mitsi or two after some of our performances this season.

As highlighted above, it needs a proper societal change in attitude to drugs which isn't going to happen any time soon - it's all just ******* in the wind in the meantime.

[Shaggy]

I think it’s fair to say that at least 50% of people in pubs/clubs are on cocaine.

I always wondered why I struggled to keep up people on nights outs. The answer is fairly obvious now.

Horrible drug is coke. All the knob heads start their crap whilst on it, turns an otherwise normal decent person into a knob head also.

[Vegas Claret]

you have to be all kinds of messed up to sniff anything up your nose from any surface in a public toilet at a football ground.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

you have to be all kinds of messed up to sniff anything up your nose from any surface in a public toilet at a football ground.

I've been informed by a former user that a house key is now the preferred method, dip into back and snort off the key.

[TheFamilyCat]

They should actively encourage the knuckle heads to take ecstasy.

Ive seen many people fight when pi55ed or coked up. Ive never seen someone kick off on ecstasy.

About same price as a twix as well

I while I go I saw (or possibly read) Norman Cook linking the decline in football hooliganism at the end of the '80's with the acid house scene and ecstacy use.

[aggi]

They should have holding cells at the ground and take them all in one go.

I can't imagine many clubs will be keen on building and staffing holding cells, particularly those in the lower leagues. Plus I imagine private incarceration is a bit of a legal minefield.

Isn't it the responsibility of the club to pay for policing in their stadium? Would the police force not just say they need more officers in the ground to enforce it and increase their bill?

The clubs are only responsible for paying for the policing inside the ground and it is up to the club to request that, not the police to impose it.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

There is a fluid that can be applied to flat surfaces, called Blokit, this helps reduce cocaine usage

What about everyone’s keys ?

[Quickenthetempo]

I've been informed by a former user that a house key is now the preferred method, dip into back and snort off the key.

Keys have been used for years as have what they call bullets. Little cylinders that you could discreetly use in a public setting, so you didn't have to go the toilets in 2s and 3s.

[AlargeClaret]

If whatever passes as “ coke” these days bore even the slightest resemblance to cocaine it would likely be far too expensive for the lower orders . Been in widespread use on the terraces since the early 90’s tbf. While it’s not good in the ground it’s hardly the biggest issue facing society or the borderline corruption of the prem

[IanMcL]

Whatever happened to glue?

[Venkys4eva]

If whatever passes as “ coke” these days bore even the slightest resemblance to cocaine it would likely be far too expensive for the lower orders . Been in widespread use on the terraces since the early 90’s tbf. While it’s not good in the ground it’s hardly the biggest issue facing society or the borderline corruption of the prem

Yea of course its not a problem, it certainly doesnt make people do crazy things at all

[wilks_bfc]

Whatever happened to glue?

It didn’t stick around

[karatekid]

Robbie Fowler would be in trouble

[Ptangyangkipperbang]

I work on racecourses and used to at Belle Vue dogs when it was open and it's just the same behaviour on Saturdays and coke use has been the blame for countless fights at tracks.Sniffer dogs have been used on entry for a few years now.It does not seem to have made much effect at all. Sometimes I despair at seeing how grown people act under the influence we always say if they saw a recording of themselves they probably would think twice about their consumption

[Shaggy]

Say out loud in a cockney accent…. My name is my cocaine

[IanMcL]

Say out loud in a cockney accent…. My name is my cocaine

What's the point? Not a lot of people know that!