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Promotion

Post by Clive 1960 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:05 am

If and when we get promoted what do you think the chances are of keeping our loan player's and to stay up .

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Re: Promotion

Post by wbfc » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:18 am

I would like Bayer signed up and TBH on another year loan...I think Tella we would have to pay north of £20 million...and Matsen given its Chelsea may be something similar ...I think they would do okay in Premier but there would be no guarantee.. I would look in the Belgium and French leagues given VKs teamsfer success for alternatives

Success would be to stay up ...a good start would be needed.. we need to see how Obeafemi and LT do in the next 6 months....

If I had £10.00 I would bet it on something else not a sure thing either way

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Re: Promotion

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:31 am

Both cbs especially Ekdal look quality signings so signing THB may not be necessary
We need to open negotiations now with Maatsen,Bayer and Tella as loanees we can make the deals permanent
We have unearthed gems and must not let them go.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:09 am

wbfc wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:18 am
I would like Bayer signed up and TBH on another year loan...I think Tella we would have to pay north of £20 million...and Matsen given its Chelsea may be something similar ...I think they would do okay in Premier but there would be no guarantee.. I would look in the Belgium and French leagues given VKs teamsfer success for alternatives

Success would be to stay up ...a good start would be needed.. we need to see how Obeafemi and LT do in the next 6 months....

If I had £10.00 I would bet it on something else not a sure thing either way
If you had £10?

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Re: Promotion

Post by Selby Claret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:27 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:31 am
Both cbs especially Ekdal look quality signings so signing THB may not be necessary
We need to open negotiations now with Maatsen,Bayer and Tella as loanees we can make the deals permanent
We have unearthed gems and must not let them go.
I would find it somewhat unsettling to learn if Saints / Chelsea / Gladbach inflated the prices of their three players to sell to us when it was Burnley and VK's team that made them look good! That's football i suppose

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Re: Promotion

Post by jedi_master » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:29 am

Strongly believe we will sign Beyer, Maatsen and Tella.
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Re: Promotion

Post by RMutt » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:32 am

I haven’t spoken to anybody yet who seems genuinely excited about going up. Normally being top and playing such fantastic football you’d expect people to be really looking forward to be challenging

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Re: Promotion

Post by RMutt » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:35 am

Teams in the top league. I think our recent experience and understanding of how the financial aspect works makes going up a less attractive prospect. Then you have VAR etc. I’ve met a lot who want us to win the league and then decline the promotion that goes with it.

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Re: Promotion

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:47 am

RMutt wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:35 am
Teams in the top league. I think our recent experience and understanding of how the financial aspect works makes going up a less attractive prospect. Then you have VAR etc. I’ve met a lot who want us to win the league and then decline the promotion that goes with it.
Bizarre mentality, never understood it. Those people would soon regret it when things turn and we’re no longer winning every week in the championship.
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Re: Promotion

Post by tiger76 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:47 am

Although there is lots of aspects about the PL I dislike, surely we have to trust VK and the players to embrace the challenge promotion will bring.

As enjoyable as this season has been we have to aim to be the best we can, and competing in the PL is a major part of that.
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Re: Promotion

Post by Bosscat » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:49 am

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:47 am
Although there is lots of aspects about the PL I dislike, surely we have to trust VK and the players to embrace the challenge promotion will bring.

As enjoyable as this season has been we have to aim to be the best we can, and competing in the PL is a major part of that.
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Re: Promotion

Post by Funkydrummer » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:50 am

Apart from the money aspect, I don't know anyone amongst
our group of family and friends that want to be in the PL next season.

What a sad endictment as to what's on offer - quite sad really.

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Re: Promotion

Post by tiger76 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:52 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:47 am
Bizarre mentality, never understood it. Those people would soon regret it when things turn and we’re no longer winning every week in the championship.
Precisely! if we hadn't won promotion this season we'd have struggled to hold onto some of our exciting young talent, as well as the loanees and VK would also have been in demand if we'd done well but not completed the job.

All those saying they prefer the Championship just think back to the mid 2000's when we were skint and endured the 19 game winless run under Cotterill.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:55 am

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:29 am
Strongly believe we will sign Beyer, Maatsen and Tella.
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Exactly this…

We can’t and rightly won’t offer THB the playing time he will want and needs for his development.

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Re: Promotion

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:55 am

It has been refreshing to go back to celebrating goals this year without VAR sucking the life out of it.

It’s coming to the championship from next season though I believe, so it won’t matter either way.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Goody1975 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:56 am

RMutt wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:35 am
Teams in the top league. I think our recent experience and understanding of how the financial aspect works makes going up a less attractive prospect. Then you have VAR etc. I’ve met a lot who want us to win the league and then decline the promotion that goes with it.
VAR will probably be in the Championship next season, being controlled by even less able officials than in the Premier League, so we can count that one out.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Goody1975 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:02 am

Cooclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:55 am
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Exactly this…

We can’t and rightly won’t offer THB the playing time he will want and needs for his development.
I'm not sure about that, I believe he'd still be our best centre half but not sure what we'd get out of it long term. We have to have a model that sees us buy players, improve them and sell at a very healthy profit.

If we can create a production line and at the same time improve the quality of players in our CAT 1 (hopefully) academy then we are half way to achieving what ALK desire, which gives us a chance of a sustainable business model, while being successful on the pitch.

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Re: Promotion

Post by RMutt » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:02 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:47 am
Bizarre mentality, never understood it. Those people would soon regret it when things turn and we’re no longer winning every week in the championship.
Yes, I get that. I’m just not seeing the level of excitement you would normally expect. We should all be chomping at the bit to go up. But genuinely, are we?
Everyone is loving the football, it’s fantastic to watch but I think the Premier League experience is a little tainted for us.
You’ve also got doubts about how long Kompany will stay and how many of our young squad will get pinched off us.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:07 am

RMutt wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:35 am
Teams in the top league. I think our recent experience and understanding of how the financial aspect works makes going up a less attractive prospect. Then you have VAR etc. I’ve met a lot who want us to win the league and then decline the promotion that goes with it.
It’s sort of how I feel and know what you mean, however we can’t moan about the big bully boys in the prem as that’s exactly what we are doing in the championship

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Re: Promotion

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:07 am

I’m genuinely looking forward to seeing this team test themselves week in week out in the PL. The Championship season this year has breathed new life into the club but the biggest reason for that is we’re far too good for the league. We need to be playing opposition more suited to our level next season.

As far as the loan players go, I’d love us to sign all four including Harwood-Bellis who I think is just fabulous and would start for us alongside Beyer in the PL. The fees required would likely be huge though and swallow most of our summer budget, so there are some tough and interesting decisions ahead for the club.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:08 am

Goody1975 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:02 am
I'm not sure about that, I believe he'd still be our best centre half but not sure what we'd get out of it long term. We have to have a model that sees us buy players, improve them and sell at a very healthy profit.

If we can create a production line and at the same time improve the quality of players in our CAT 1 (hopefully) academy then we are half way to achieving what ALK desire, which gives us a chance of a sustainable business model, while being successful on the pitch.
You’ve answered the question yourself. What do we get out of it? Unless we can see a sale from City, we’re just helping them out. Which is fine, but I don’t see him being streets ahead of the current three.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Bobzuruncle » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:12 pm

RMutt wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:02 am
Yes, I get that. I’m just not seeing the level of excitement you would normally expect. We should all be chomping at the bit to go up. But genuinely, are we?
Everyone is loving the football, it’s fantastic to watch but I think the Premier League experience is a little tainted for us.
You’ve also got doubts about how long Kompany will stay and how many of our young squad will get pinched off us.
At the start of this season I really didn’t know what to expect, it could have been anything from total success to abject failure. If we are promoted next year will be the same and that’s what I’ll be excited about !
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Re: Promotion

Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:35 pm

RMutt wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:02 am
Yes, I get that. I’m just not seeing the level of excitement you would normally expect. We should all be chomping at the bit to go up. But genuinely, are we?
Everyone is loving the football, it’s fantastic to watch but I think the Premier League experience is a little tainted for us.
You’ve also got doubts about how long Kompany will stay and how many of our young squad will get pinched off us.
I'm very excited about the prospect of winning the Championship and maybe breaking records at this level. However this will be our fourth promotion to the PL in recent years so there isn't the wow factor seen in 2010 for instance. I'd say the level of excitement about being in the PL has probably receded with each promotion as inevitably the novelty has worn off , though fair to say it will be interesting to see how this supremely brilliant team (at Championship level) goes on in the PL.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:38 pm

Promotion, from another view.

I've just been overwhelmed by a feeling that promotion will lack it's usual excitement, not from playing in the Prem, but the fact that it is happening too easy. The fingernail biting until the last couple of games, the euphoria of finally confirming our place.
When promotion does happen, we will see it coming from such a long way off, that the euphoria will be missing. It's such a shame. Yes, we'll all be delighted, but the excitement will be missing.
Perhaps, if it's still on the cards, chasing down Readings record would generate the excitement fans desire, oh I do hope so.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Claret53 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:58 pm

Promotion won’t have been easy. It’s down to astute purchases and very hard work- on the part of the coaches and the players. Every win has to be earned and superior tactics and execution don’t just happen by chance.
It will be fascinating - and not at all boring - to see what adjustments need to be made next year. I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing this non-backs-to-the-wall style challenged next year. On present evidence, we can have every confidence in VK finding a way.

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Re: Promotion

Post by andyh » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:03 pm

Promotions come and go. I’m still pinching myself about us playing so well. How we go in the FA cup this year and the league next season is a huge unknown. We have gotten so used to winning I wouldn’t be surprised if we exceeded expectations. I’ve got £20 on fa cup at 50/1. I will put a flutter on top 6 next year… not because I think we are certain to keep this form going but because we just might.
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Re: Promotion

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:34 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:38 pm
Promotion, from another view.

I've just been overwhelmed by a feeling that promotion will lack it's usual excitement, not from playing in the Prem, but the fact that it is happening too easy. The fingernail biting until the last couple of games, the euphoria of finally confirming our place.
When promotion does happen, we will see it coming from such a long way off, that the euphoria will be missing. It's such a shame. Yes, we'll all be delighted, but the excitement will be missing.
Perhaps, if it's still on the cards, chasing down Readings record would generate the excitement fans desire, oh I do hope so.
I tend to agree with that, it's almost been a bit too easy, I'd like to see someone give us a tough game in the next few weeks.
As for the Prem I'm excited to see how this team does, but there's lots about the Prem I hate. VAR, crap away days, the owners at the likes of City and Newcastle etc.

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Re: Promotion

Post by HiThere » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:38 pm

andyh wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:03 pm
Promotions come and go. I’m still pinching myself about us playing so well. How we go in the FA cup this year and the league next season is a huge unknown. We have gotten so used to winning I wouldn’t be surprised if we exceeded expectations. I’ve got £20 on fa cup at 50/1. I will put a flutter on top 6 next year… not because I think we are certain to keep this form going but because we just might.
Even scarier - I don't think this is down to form. Form is a temporary run of games. I think we'll do well in the Prem.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Jimmymaccer » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:28 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:52 am
Precisely! if we hadn't won promotion this season we'd have struggled to hold onto some of our exciting young talent, as well as the loanees and VK would also have been in demand if we'd done well but not completed the job.

All those saying they prefer the Championship just think back to the mid 2000's when we were skint and endured the 19 game winless run under Cotterill.
Yeah, like Duff’s clearance against Hull in a night match which saw Cotterill’s departure………sliced it, and it smashed against one of the hospitality box windows in the JH stand………..we were in the hospitality bit where after a while Barry Kilby appeared and said no one from the playing staff would be appearing………..he was a very angry chap!!!!

I for one quite like the opportunity of occasionally annoying one of the big clubs……………

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