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Tresor

Post by winsomeyen » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:17 pm

With Tresor being on the bench today will he be cup tied even if he fails to get on the pitch? :?: :?:

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Re: Tresor

Post by Guller Bull » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:21 pm

Wouldn’t think it would apply if he doesn’t come on and wouldn’t count in the German cup competition anyway.

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Re: Tresor

Post by davetheclaret25 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:22 pm

winsomeyen wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:17 pm
With Tresor being on the bench today will he be cup tied even if he fails to get on the pitch? :?: :?:
Don't even toy with me - He's GOT to make an appearance today

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Re: Tresor

Post by HollandsPies » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:30 pm

On the bench?
That's excellent news!
Hope the lad gets some game time.

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Re: Tresor

Post by equinox » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:22 pm

I know it's 'only' Reading but he definitely has something about him.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:28 pm

10 minutes back and grabbed an assist

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Re: Tresor

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:33 pm

Very impressive.

We might never know whats gone on behind the scenes, but he will make a massive difference for us if he is now fit and available. He needs backing and a clean slate if Parker has determined the same. Excellent for 35 minutes and didn't waste the ball once.
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Re: Tresor

Post by ISpeds00 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:34 pm

He's going to be in the 1st team squad for the next game

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Re: Tresor

Post by Stayingup » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:34 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:28 pm
10 minutes back and grabbed an assist
That's..... Magic .... delighted for him.

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Re: Tresor

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm

Has a player ever looked as good but as disinterested in a cameo before hahaha, he did not care one bit then did he

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Re: Tresor

Post by Conroy92 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:36 pm

I'm going to be honest I don't know what to make. He looked alive for the assist. And then for the majority just knocked it backwards or inside despite having lots of space to run into.
Hard to tell if his heart was in it or if he was just going through the motions. But if he's commited reckon there's a player in there.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Murger » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:37 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm
Has a player ever looked as good but as disinterested in a cameo before hahaha, he did not care one bit then did he
Looked pretty interested to me.
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Re: Tresor

Post by ISpeds00 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:38 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:37 pm
Looked pretty interested to me.
Snap - i dont know what games some people watch
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Re: Tresor

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:39 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm
Has a player ever looked as good but as disinterested in a cameo before hahaha, he did not care one bit then did he
He probably wondered why he was needed to finish off such a poor team.

Got some minutes into players though so extra time wasn't too bad in the end.

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Re: Tresor

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:39 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm
Has a player ever looked as good but as disinterested in a cameo before hahaha, he did not care one bit then did he
I think when it got to 1-3 the entire team showed less ambition and was content to knock it about at the back and retain possession. Tresor was definitely keen when the game was there to be killed off, but then resorted to the same as the rest of the team in keeping it tidy afterwards. No issues from me.

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Re: Tresor

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:40 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:37 pm
Looked pretty interested to me.
Not necessarily a negative, cantona used to play the game without looking all that interested.

Foster had the ball on the left and Tresor wasn’t running into the box he was just jogging. The 3rd goal, he plays the pass to humphreys and then makes no effort at all to get into the box hahaha he’s funny to watch m, clearly talented

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Re: Tresor

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:41 pm

Could be a ridiculous suggestion, but is it possible that his contract stipulates that he won’t play in the Championship - therefore encouraging the club to sell him in the event of relegation. The sale then not being feasible due to his illness/injury and the FA cup providing a loophole opportunity to give him some game time?

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Re: Tresor

Post by Ampth7 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:44 pm

Looked really sharp to me and hopefully we can see some more of that in the league because he clearly has quality!
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Re: Tresor

Post by Bosscat » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:45 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:41 pm
Could be a ridiculous suggestion, but is it possible that his contract stipulates that he won’t play in the Championship - therefore encouraging the club to sell him in the event of relegation. The sale then not being feasible due to his illness/injury and the FA cup providing a loophole opportunity to give him some game time?
Well we will find out in the coming weeks after that performance ... Magic Mike Tresor
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:46 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:40 pm
Not necessarily a negative, cantona used to play the game without looking all that interested.

Foster had the ball on the left and Tresor wasn’t running into the box he was just jogging. The 3rd goal, he plays the pass to humphreys and then makes no effort at all to get into the box hahaha he’s funny to watch m, clearly talented
I think he was just spent 123, I noticed first 15 minutes he was running after everything. After that he looked like he could barely jog he was that shattered

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Re: Tresor

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:48 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:41 pm
Could be a ridiculous suggestion, but is it possible that his contract stipulates that he won’t play in the Championship - therefore encouraging the club to sell him in the event of relegation. The sale then not being feasible due to his illness/injury and the FA cup providing a loophole opportunity to give him some game time?
I’ve wondered all season if the issue is contractual.

My thought was he’s due some extra money if he plays another league game and the club are trying to negotiate that clause out of his contract before they’ll name him in the squad again.

Pure speculation, but he’s been too prominent in the club’s commercial and social media activities for it to be a strike on his part.

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Re: Tresor

Post by CHEWBACCA » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:48 pm

Got it passed it back,got it passed it back... Didn't go forward enough for me... !

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Re: Tresor

Post by Guller Bull » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:49 pm

My thoughts are that he needs to show that he’s fit before he gets his move.

Talented player there, but again my opinion it won’t be for us.

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Re: Tresor

Post by agreenwood » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:51 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:46 pm
I think he was just spent 123, I noticed first 15 minutes he was running after everything. After that he looked like he could barely jog he was that shattered
Weren’t there rumours that he’d contracted some kind of parasitic disease? They can often result in long-term fatigue.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:52 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:37 pm
Looked pretty interested to me.
That's grand of him considering the wedge he's meant to be on.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:53 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:51 pm
Weren’t there rumours that he’d contracted some kind of parasitic disease? They can often result in long-term fatigue.
Honestly I’ve lost track of it all. But Tresor certainly looked exhausted towards the end. I noticed after the game he was bent over hands on knees for some time

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Re: Tresor

Post by Murger » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:53 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:52 pm
That's grand of him considering the wedge he's meant to be on.
Obviously it’s a bare minimum. But to say he wasn’t is just false.

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Re: Tresor

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:54 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:49 pm
My thoughts are that he needs to show that he’s fit before he gets his move.

Talented player there, but again my opinion it won’t be for us.
Certainly don't see any other club wanting to take on an "unfit" player when they are paying at least an amount of his wages

I would have thought he will have to show his fitness with us first

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Re: Tresor

Post by Stonehouse » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:57 pm

CHEWBACCA wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:48 pm
Got it passed it back,got it passed it back... Didn't go forward enough for me... !
Were you watching a different game ,he ran along the goal line for Flemmings first goal and flicked it over the defender for the 3rd goal he only went backwards once we were in front.

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Re: Tresor

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:58 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:46 pm
I think he was just spent 123, I noticed first 15 minutes he was running after everything. After that he looked like he could barely jog he was that shattered
Would make sense first game in 8 months

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Re: Tresor

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:59 pm

I thought he was excellent and everything we have been missing in the final 3rd this season. Ball control, pace, awareness - he has the lot. His assist for the second goal may have looked simple but how many times have we said that some of our other players lack an end product? It was there with this goal. Tresor’s speed and awareness along with Flemming’s movement was just too good for them. End product.

It just comes down to his attitude and whether he wants to play for Burnley. He could potentially be a massive player for us for the last 5 months.
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Re: Tresor

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:53 pm
Honestly I’ve lost track of it all. But Tresor certainly looked exhausted towards the end. I noticed after the game he was bent over hands on knees for some time
Yes he was so nowhere near match fit would be my verdict. However he had a great assist for Flemming

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Re: Tresor

Post by Pearcey » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:01 pm

You just know he’ll be sold now! :-D

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Re: Tresor

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:03 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:58 pm
Would make sense first game in 8 months
Not to that extent. Don’t get me wrong, showed his quality after he came on, but he didn't look right in that extra time.
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Re: Tresor

Post by louieollie » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:04 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:35 pm
Has a player ever looked as good but as disinterested in a cameo before hahaha, he did not care one bit then did he
🫣

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Re: Tresor

Post by Ampth7 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:08 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:59 pm
I thought he was excellent and everything we have been missing in the final 3rd this season. Ball control, pace, awareness - he has the lot. His assist for the second goal may have looked simple but how many times have we said that some of our other players lack an end product? It was there with this goal. Tresor’s speed and awareness along with Flemming’s movement was just too good for them. End product.

It just comes down to his attitude and whether he wants to play for Burnley. He could potentially be a massive player for us for the last 5 months.
I think this sums it up perfectly! His end product was WAY better than Koleosho, but clearly match fitness is going to be a problem moving forwards.

However, he could be a great option off the bench in the league, which I do appreciate is dependent on several factors such as, will he still be here at the end of January. Time will tell!

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Re: Tresor

Post by NL Claret » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:08 pm

I'm not bothered about this looking disinterested etc. He could be one of those players who gives off a negative body language and then will spring into life as he did for the 2nd goal. McNeil/ Waddle never looked interested but both could play. Plus the instructions were to keep ball hence the ball retention instead of anything direct after the goals.

Let's take the positive, he's been spotted in a Burnley shirt and played a massive part in the goal. Credit to Bauress with the interchange with Mike.
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Post by eastcoastclaret » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:16 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:03 pm
Not to that extent. Don’t get me wrong, showed his quality after he came on, but he didn't look right in that extra time.
The problem is we don't know the reason he's been unavailable for such a long time. We are basing our opinions on his fitness from players coming back from a normal injury. If his long lay off was not a normal injury, then looking how quickly he seemed to tire is perhaps more understandable. Especially considering he doesn't seem to have played in any U21 games.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Gp8419 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:17 pm

That 2nd goal his assist is what we have been lacking.I feel like our current widemen have lacked that all season. It wasn’t an easy assist at all great vision to spot Flemings witheld run we crave for something like this. Very strange the going ons with him though was gobsmacked to see him.

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Re: Tresor

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:19 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:51 pm
Weren’t there rumours that he’d contracted some kind of parasitic disease? They can often result in long-term fatigue.
Just his agent.
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Re: Tresor

Post by bobinho » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:21 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:33 pm
Very impressive.

We might never know whats gone on behind the scenes, but he will make a massive difference for us if he is now fit and available. He needs backing and a clean slate if Parker has determined the same. Excellent for 35 minutes and didn't waste the ball once.
Been dying to hear this, despite me believing it would never happen for him here.

If SP has him onboard, that’s absolutely great work by him.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Jacko » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:21 pm

He did a couple of nice things but he didn't run and with 20 mins left he gave up! Was standing motionless with hands on knees! His attitude stinks.

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Re: Tresor

Post by aggi » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:21 pm

There were some ironic cheers at one point when he broke into a jog (a sprint was too much to hope for).

He certainly looked skillful with a good touch but he wouldn't be able to play like that against a decent championship team. Hopefully it's just a matter of match fitness

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Re: Tresor

Post by Goliath » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:24 pm

One positive about his lack of rate is that we have Brownhill who can and often does play narrow on that side and csn do the defensive work that Tresor won't. It would actually then give us more of a counter attacking threat having another player up the pitch.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Robbie_painter » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:25 pm

Thought he was very impressive to be honest.Ran out of gas for whatever reason,match fitness most probably.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Oshkoshclaret » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:25 pm

Showed more football intelligence in 5 mins than Koleosho in 85
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Re: Tresor

Post by fatboy47 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:27 pm

Did what it says on his tin...effective and helped put the game to bed nicely.

Stand by for the predictable manic reactions though...zero to hero in 20 minutes.

Life's not really like that... we'll find out soon enough if he's robust enough to be a big part of our push.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Stonehouse » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:27 pm

At one time when the ball was with Pires he was actually shouting for the ball,would love to be a fly on the wall in the dressing room,who was our left winger when Branch was playing and was absolutely dreadful then all of a sudden started playing like a man possessed?

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Re: Tresor

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:28 pm

Jacko wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:21 pm
He did a couple of nice things but he didn't run and with 20 mins left he gave up! Was standing motionless with hands on knees! His attitude stinks.

Attitude, or a serious fitness issue?

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Re: Tresor

Post by fatboy47 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:29 pm

Jacko wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:21 pm
He did a couple of nice things but he didn't run and with 20 mins left he gave up! Was standing motionless with hands on knees! His attitude stinks.
Beware of scattering too much troll food though....this threads going to be an arse magnet this evening.

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