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Tresor

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:49 am

A very very telling image, let's hope he comes back fighting fit
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Re: Tresor

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:12 am

Why have they nailed his right hand to the door frame ?
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Re: Tresor

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:38 am

Funkydrummer wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:12 am
Why have they nailed his right hand to the door frame ?
That would explain why he doesn't play! :D
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Re: Tresor

Post by burnley007 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:47 am

For anyone else who had no idea what the reference was...(I still don't understand tbh)

"Baile inolvidable" translates to "unforgettable dance" in Spanish. It's a phrase used by Bad Bunny in his song of the same name as a metaphor for a past love that deeply impacted him. The song uses the "baile inolvidable" as a symbol of a fleeting but impactful connection, a love story that didn't last but left a lasting impression

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:55 am

Laproscopic surgery scars along with the one down his stomach. Big surgery there.

Looks like he is on the mend, all being well.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Pearcey » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:08 am

Looks like he’s been through it. The club have obviously respected his wishes not to go public which is great. We need to move on and get behind him now.
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Re: Tresor

Post by burnley007 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:11 am

That's some serious surgery. I really hope he is now 100% and healthy.

I desperately hope fans give him our full support, especially if he appears in any friendlies, he will probably need to hear some love from fans after last year.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:13 am

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:11 am
That's some serious surgery. I really hope he is now 100% and healthy.

I desperately hope fans give him our full support, especially if he appears in any friendlies, he will probably need to hear some love from fans after last year.
The surgery was what I was told about which was why I was constantly defending him. But then that blew up in my face with Alan Pace's comments about him.
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Re: Tresor

Post by Walkerpool » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:28 am

I think i fully fit and committed Tresor would be a real boost for everyone.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:38 am

I wonder what Alan Pace was thinking when he made those comments about not being sure that Tresor wanted to play.

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Re: Tresor

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:40 am

Il est tres-sore
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Re: Tresor

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:05 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:55 am
Laproscopic surgery scars along with the one down his stomach. Big surgery there.

Looks like he is on the mend, all being well.
Links in exactly with what I heard previously. Which is horrendous if true.

I still sense the whole situation could have been handled better - even in a considerate way. But is what it is.

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Re: Tresor

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:06 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:13 am
The surgery was what I was told about which was why I was constantly defending him. But then that blew up in my face with Alan Pace's comments about him.
The club really didnt help anyone in this case.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:12 am

CyrilEbokiPoh wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:06 am
The club really didnt help anyone in this case.
The player has the final say on whether a medical condition is diagnosed to the public at large, or not. They enjoy the same privacy rights as everyone else.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Socrates » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:17 am

I had laporoscopic surgery in 2019 after my intestine perforated and split. I got sepsis and allsorts of jazz.

Took me about three years to recover from it. And I didn’t have to get to a level where I was playing Premier League football.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:17 am

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:12 am
The player has the final say on whether a medical condition is diagnosed to the public at large, or not. They enjoy the same privacy rights as everyone else.
Absolutely they do but it doesn’t help when the chairman tells people he’s fine and dandy but he doesn’t know whether he will play for us again.
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Re: Tresor

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:19 am

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:12 am
The player has the final say on whether a medical condition is diagnosed to the public at large, or not. They enjoy the same privacy rights as everyone else.
I don't think anyone was wanting to know the exact details of any illness, but a short statement from the club stating that he'd be unavailable due to having/had surgery would have saved a lot of wild speculation and conspiracy theories.
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Re: Tresor

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:20 am

Be like a new signing!!

Up the Mikey Tresor.
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Re: Tresor

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:23 am

It is of course normal in laparoscopic surgery to have 3 incisions, one for the scope and the others for the instruments.

Judging by the precise location I think it is clear what he had done so there should be no more need for secrecy. The odd bit is why such an operation requires such a long absence and that seems to be where the complicated story and multiple opinions such as from the Chairman comes in. Feels there is more to come out on this yet.

For my part as I have done throughout I’ll stay behind him and wish him well, hopefully with us.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:27 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:17 am
Absolutely they do but it doesn’t help when the chairman tells people he’s fine and dandy but he doesn’t know whether he will play for us again.
I had only read second-hand that someone mentioned the Chairman's comments on Tresor, do we know they were actually true? After the whole "Free Nathan Tella" stuff it wouldn't surprise me if they were to be honest.

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Re: Tresor

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:27 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:23 am
It is of course normal in laparoscopic surgery to have 3 incisions, one for the scope and the others for the instruments.

Judging by the precise location I think it is clear what he had done so there should be no more need for secrecy. The odd bit is why such an operation requires such a long absence and that seems to be where the complicated story and multiple opinions such as from the Chairman comes in. Feels there is more to come out on this yet.

For my part as I have done throughout I’ll stay behind him and wish him well, hopefully with us.
EDIT - seen the photo again when I’m not in the sunlight and I had missed the big scar so clearly more serious than a simple laparoscopy. Anyway, my point still stands, we should get behind him.

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Re: Tresor

Post by TPClaret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:31 am

If Tresor was such a bad egg, why would SP have him around the dressing room when he talks about the togetherness and spirit in the squad
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Re: Tresor

Post by NL Claret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:40 am

Just goes to show that you cannot take comments made by club officials as gospel.
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Re: Tresor

Post by MarkGreen » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:50 am

Do we know these scars didn't exist before his time at Burnley?

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Re: Tresor

Post by claret wizard » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:09 am

Pretty much what Tony says above. I've been told it was totally his decision not to go public, and he's entirley his right to do that. I hope those, singing stupid songs, taking the ****, think about this next time they might want to start on one of our own players.

Let's all get behind Magic Mike now.

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Re: Tresor

Post by burnley007 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:12 am

claret wizard wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:09 am
Pretty much what Tony says above. I've been told it was totally his decision not to go public, and he's entirley his right to do that. I hope those, singing stupid songs, taking the ****, think about this next time they might want to start on one of our own players.

Let's all get behind Magic Mike now.
agreed, will be interesting to see how involved he is in pre-season. I hope he's fully recovered and healthy.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:12 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:13 am
The surgery was what I was told about which was why I was constantly defending him. But then that blew up in my face with Alan Pace's comments about him.
That also aligns exactly to what I was told by someone involved with the club who was directly involved.
The only reason I posted I knew was because of some of the comments on the board.

Despite the fact that I have hardly ever posted anything where I knew something so certain there were still plenty of comments saying you should not make “in the know” posts without giving specific details. I did not think it was right to do this given the club were not prepared to release the details for whatever reason they had made the decision.

The irony of this was that there were so many posters just making stuff up about Tresor - and there still is. One particular poster cannot help himself constantly talking about how much Tresor gets paid as some sort of rationale for not having any sympathy for him.

Hopefully he can make a full recovery and get some fitness back to carry on his career with us or anybody else. The physical injury may be on the mend but this must have taken a lot out of him mentally too and regaining his confidence will be tough.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretPete001 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:13 am

MarkGreen wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:50 am
Do we know these scars didn't exist before his time at Burnley?
Clearly, I'll bow to the resident surgeons but they look like old scars to me.

Alan Pace said what he said and the club hasn't made any serious attempts at clearing up the matter so as far as I am concerned it's all conjecture and we know diddly squat.

I'm just amazed that there are people wandering around calling themselves Bad Bunny.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Andingle » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:14 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:17 am
Absolutely they do but it doesn’t help when the chairman tells people he’s fine and dandy but he doesn’t know whether he will play for us again.
Was the Chairman quoted as saying that or was it just heresay?

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Re: Tresor

Post by billyhamilton82 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:15 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:17 am
Absolutely they do but it doesn’t help when the chairman tells people he’s fine and dandy but he doesn’t know whether he will play for us again.
That was just a comment by someone on here, which led to the vitriol.

Is it possible that the comment was stirrring controversy or had beeen misunderstood?

Probably not a good idea to undermine the chairman with "gossip" that can be misconstrued through perception or worse purposefully causing controversy.

The word "allegedly" is always helpful in these circumstances.

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Re: Tresor

Post by claret wizard » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:15 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:12 am
That also aligns exactly to what I was told by someone involved with the club who was directly involved.
The only reason I posted I knew was because of some of the comments on the board.

Despite the fact that I have hardly ever posted anything where I knew something so certain there were still plenty of comments saying you should not make “in the know” posts without giving specific details. I did not think it was right to do this given the club were not prepared to release the details for whatever reason they had made the decision.

The irony of this was that there were so many posters just making stuff up about Tresor - and there still is. One particular poster cannot help himself constantly talking about how much Tresor gets paid as some sort of rationale for not having any sympathy for him.

Hopefully he can make a full recovery and get some fitness back to carry on his career with us or anybody else. The physical injury may be on the mend but this must have taken a lot out of him mentally too and regaining his confidence will be tough.
Same situation here, except I didn't hint I knew. Too many idiots on here, and for once too many idiots in the stands.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretPete001 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:23 am

Too many people keen to call fellow Clarets idiots.

The Chairman clearly said publicly what he said there was no chance of misunderstanding it. The person who claimed to have the question then asked it again privately and got the same answer.

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Re: Tresor

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:36 am

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:12 am
The player has the final say on whether a medical condition is diagnosed to the public at large, or not. They enjoy the same privacy rights as everyone else.
Don’t disagree. But the club still didn’t help.

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Re: Tresor

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:39 am

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:15 am
That was just a comment by someone on here, which led to the vitriol.

Is it possible that the comment was stirrring controversy or had beeen misunderstood?

Probably not a good idea to undermine the chairman with "gossip" that can be misconstrued through perception or worse purposefully causing controversy.

The word "allegedly" is always helpful in these circumstances.
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Re: Tresor

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:46 am

Hope the boo-ers feel bad now :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Re: Tresor

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:47 am

It's a baffler...not least because the club has had more than ample opportunity to rectify any misleading statements without compromising good practice in respect of innappropriate information disclosure.

In the circumstances I doubt there's a club anywhere who wouldn't have had a few dozen disgruntled fans drawing their own conclusions and generally acting like gobsh1tes.

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Re: Tresor

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:47 am

Tresor was deemed fit to play not long after Pace made that comment about him being fit. It was at Reading where he came on and played a part as a sub. In the next press conference Parker said Tresor would be unavailable for the foreseeable. I believe it is clear that the Reading game provided a realisation he was not close to being ready and/or a new issue was found. We then didn’t see him again until the u21s appearance, when he was probably fit again, but didn’t feature in the first team as we were playing so well by that point in the run in.
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Re: Tresor

Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:48 am

Do we think he will be ready this season?

It will be a massive boost to have him back.

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Re: Tresor

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:49 am

Pace's comments clearly were ridiculous, there's a few at the club currently with a penchant for saying things they think people want to hear imo. Parker's comments have been pretty consistent and reasonable though.

Anyway, if the lad is around next season be ready for some to still boo him because there's no doubt they will.
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Re: Tresor

Post by Goobs » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:02 pm

I'm in love with Mike Tresor
All his skills and his flicks
He don't love us back though
Cos most of our fanbase are dicks
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Re: Tresor

Post by Clive 1960 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:16 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:47 am
Tresor was deemed fit to play not long after Pace made that comment about him being fit. It was at Reading where he came on and played a part as a sub. In the next press conference Parker said Tresor would be unavailable for the foreseeable. I believe it is clear that the Reading game provided a realisation he was not close to being ready and/or a new issue was found. We then didn’t see him again until the u21s appearance, when he was probably fit again, but didn’t feature in the first team as we were playing so well by that point in the run in.
Also who at the club decided he was fit to come on as a substitute when the guy was nowhere fit i believe, he should have been tested just like in pre season and seen what is stats we're . For me the club as messed up if the guy as been seriously ill, let's hope if he is fit and selected to play that everyone gets behind the guy...

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Re: Tresor

Post by Spike » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:17 pm

Absolutely stupid song that some idiot started at an away game . Southampton?

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Re: Tresor

Post by Guller Bull » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:36 pm

Can somebody explain in simple terms.

I’m gathering that MT has had serious some pretty serious surgery for something ? What was it and when was it?

More importantly is he ok now and are we likely to see him play for us again?

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Re: Tresor

Post by steve1264b » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:43 pm

Clive 1960 wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:16 pm
Also who at the club decided he was fit to come on as a substitute when the guy was nowhere fit i believe, he should have been tested just like in pre season and seen what is stats we're . For me the club as messed up if the guy as been seriously ill, let's hope if he is fit and selected to play that everyone gets behind the guy...
The idea that he hadnt been medically assessed and tested is a joke.

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Re: Tresor

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:49 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:36 pm
Can somebody explain in simple terms.

I’m gathering that MT has had serious some pretty serious surgery for something ? What was it and when was it?

You're really not getting this are you.
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Re: Tresor

Post by Clive 1960 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:51 pm

steve1264b wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:43 pm
The idea that he hadnt been medically assessed and tested is a joke.
seen many a player play down at the Turf who were not fit playing and carrying injuries one that springs to mind was Robbie Blake who needed a hernia operation so who deemed him fit Stan ...

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Re: Tresor

Post by Guller Bull » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:51 pm

No - really not? It’s like one big guessing game. I hope he is on the mend mentally/ physically obviously.

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Re: Tresor

Post by Row x » Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:02 pm

Clive 1960 wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:16 pm
Also who at the club decided he was fit to come on as a substitute when the guy was nowhere fit i believe, he should have been tested just like in pre season and seen what is stats we're . For me the club as messed up if the guy as been seriously ill, let's hope if he is fit and selected to play that everyone gets behind the guy...
What makes you "believe" he was nowhere near fit?

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Re: Tresor

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:03 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:47 am
Tresor was deemed fit to play not long after Pace made that comment about him being fit. It was at Reading where he came on and played a part as a sub. In the next press conference Parker said Tresor would be unavailable for the foreseeable. I believe it is clear that the Reading game provided a realisation he was not close to being ready and/or a new issue was found. We then didn’t see him again until the u21s appearance, when he was probably fit again, but didn’t feature in the first team as we were playing so well by that point in the run in.
That does seem right on the face of it.

It's quite odd though in a way because from what I saw he was excellent in that cameo (yes, I accept, not much off the ball movement!). We don't know how he was after that game though, he could have been seriously struggling in terms of recuperation/general fitness in the warm down and so on.

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Re: Tresor

Post by JarrowClaret » Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:06 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:23 am
Too many people keen to call fellow Clarets idiots.

The Chairman clearly said publicly what he said there was no chance of misunderstanding it. The person who claimed to have the question then asked it again privately and got the same answer.
Quite clearly it was easily misunderstood as it has been by many people on social media, including yourself by the looks of it, for clarity being fit and well is TOTALLY different to be being fit to play. What pace said was so poorly worded and utterly unhelpful, but all you had to do was to listen to what Parker said about him and watched how he and his teammates reacted to Tresor and that would tell you more than what pace said. After all Parker and his teammates are the ones who deal with him on a daily basis.

As for what was said privately I also read that, but you or I have no idea what Pace actually said to that person I would imagine it was paraphrased and maybe missed some context but as said I don’t know but as with anything put in here I took it with a pinch of salt until I see proof that it was accurately portrayed.

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