5 killed in Canadian mosque shooting

[ClaretMoffitt]

Senseless violence that does nothing to ease the tensions of the current social climate. Condolences to those affected both directly and indirectly.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/quebec-ci ... es-deaths/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Damo]

Can I be the first to blame this on Donald Trump and Brexit please

[ClaretMoffitt]

Can I be the first to blame this on Donald Trump and Brexit please

You're not the first, you're not even in the first million.

[Damo]

The Daily beast has had to make a retraction after sourcing info from a parody account ffs

[ClaretMoffitt]

I will admit, the explosive outrage that is pouring in on twitter about how this is because of trump is quite ironic in the face of the situation. The same people who are jumping on to this tragedy now to politicize it are the "wait for all the details before making assumptions" crowd when an obvious islamic terrorist attack happens in Europe.

But what can you do?

You just have to cut through the noise and remember that when all is said and done, innocent people have lost lives for no good reason.

[fatboy47]

just me who feared for the moose then ?....momentarily.

[Imploding Turtle]

The Daily beast has had to make a retraction after sourcing info from a parody account ffs

They're ******* idiots. This is why actually credible news organisations require double sourcing for things like this.

[morpheus2]

Of course the vast vast majority of times violent attacks on mosques are carried out as part of the Sunni - Shia sectarian war...or for the hatred of the 'heretic' Ahmadiyya and other minority sects by Sunni or Shia factions. It will be a very unusual and worrying development if this turns out to be something else.

[Holmeclaret]

Of course the vast vast majority of times violent attacks on mosques are carried out as part of the Sunni - Shia sectarian war...or for the hatred of the 'heretic' Ahmadiyya and other minority sects by Sunni or Shia factions. It will be a very unusual and worrying development if this turns out to be something else.

Of course.

[morpheus2]

Of course.

What's that? You agree? you disagree? Surely you would prefer that this is part of the ongoing 1400 year old Islamic civil war than the work of far right thugs? That would be a very worrying development indeed..

Maybe you weren't being sarcastic, I don't know.

[The Enclosure]

Quebec City mosque shooting: Six killed, eight wounded - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38793071" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ClaretMoffitt]

I have to say though, if it was done by far right groups or white supremacists (and I'm not saying it wasn't at this stage), I can't help but feel we would already know it. There is something very weasel like about the Canadian PMs statement. As if he wants to indirectly shift blame where he wants it to fall because he can't outright do it.

Perhaps that's just the cynic about our media integrity talking though.

[Imploding Turtle]

I have to say though, if it was done by far right groups or white supremacists (and I'm not saying it wasn't at this stage), I can't help but feel we would already know it. There is something very weasel like about the Canadian PMs statement. As if he wants to indirectly shift blame where he wants it to fall because he can't outright do it.

Perhaps that's just the cynic about our media integrity talking though.

Go on then. What is it that is weasel-like about his statement? I'll helpfully quote it for you.

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“It was with tremendous shock, sadness and anger that I heard of this evening’s tragic and fatal shooting at the Centre culturel islamique de Québec located in the Ste-Foy neighbourhood of the city of Québec.

“We condemn this terrorist attack on Muslims in a centre of worship and refuge.

“On behalf of all Canadians, Sophie and I offer our deepest condolences to the family and friends of all those who have died, and we wish a speedy recovery to those who have been injured.

“While authorities are still investigating and details continue to be confirmed, it is heart-wrenching to see such senseless violence. Diversity is our strength, and religious tolerance is a value that we, as Canadians, hold dear.

“Muslim-Canadians are an important part of our national fabric, and these senseless acts have no place in our communities, cities and country. Canadian law enforcement agencies will protect the rights of all Canadians, and will make every effort to apprehend the perpetrators of this act and all acts of intolerance.

“Tonight, we grieve with the people of Ste-Foy and all Canadians.”

[Bin Ont Turf]

Go on then. What is it that is weasel-like about his statement?

Probably this bit Turtle...............

“Muslim-Canadians are an important part of our national fabric,

Although you could put b0llocks like, instead of weasel like.

Edit - put

[Saxoman]

You must be really unhappy in nelson if you have a problem with Muslims..

[Imploding Turtle]

Fox News only removed false information that the shooter was Muslim when the Canadian Prime Minister asked them to.
I'm surprised Damo isn't on top of that given how important it is that journalists get it right.

Edit: Also, this thread? 6-pager if it was a Muslim shooting up a church.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Fox News only removed false information that the shooter was Muslim when the Canadian Prime Minister asked them to.
I'm surprised Damo isn't on top of that given how important it is that journalists get it right.

Edit: Also, this thread? 6-pager if it was a Muslim shooting up a church.

They get burnt down on almost a daily basis across the middle east. Let's not turn this into a "what about" thread.

People died, the guy who did it was ****. Fox deserve their bad press. That's all their is to it.

[Imploding Turtle]

They get burnt down on almost a daily basis across the middle east. Let's not turn this into a "what about" thread.

People died, the guy who did it was ****. Fox deserve their bad press. That's all their is to it.

Off-topic but I saw this on r/politicalhumor with the title "Liberals criticising the anti-Milo protests" and it reminded me of you.

https://i.redditmedia.com/s1EjB75exT0Dt ... fc406b5b6c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Imploding Turtle]

Here's an article about Pres. Trump's tweets on the shooting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... ebec-city/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ClaretMoffitt]

Off-topic but I saw this on r/politicalhumor with the title "Liberals criticising the anti-Milo protests" and it reminded me of you.

https://i.redditmedia.com/s1EjB75exT0Dt ... fc406b5b6c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nah yeh I agree, totally better to do it like this;

https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/ ... nref=story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video- ... lo-speech/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.facebook.com/lauren.souther ... 419422106/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ClaretMoffitt]

Here's an article about Pres. Trump's tweets on the shooting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... ebec-city/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Justin Trudeau didn't make a tweet about the gay bar that was shot up in America by an islamist nutter either, he did call Obama however and offer his condolences and provide any assistance possible. You know, kinda how Trump did with Trudeau after the mosque shooting?

[Imploding Turtle]

Nah yeh I agree, totally better to do it like this;

https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/ ... nref=story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video- ... lo-speech/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.facebook.com/lauren.souther ... 419422106/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Around 1,500 people gathered to peacefully protest Mr Yiannopoulos’ visit before a smaller group of people dressed in black started a wave of vandalism.

“This was a group of agitators who were masked up, throwing rocks, commercial grade fireworks and Molotov cocktails at officers,” said UC Berkeley Police Chief Margo Bennet.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 58946.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Stop trying to pretend that when violence occurs at peaceful protests that it's because the protests aren't peaceful. Stop listening to people who repeatedly lie to you in order to paint themselves as victims of the left.

Do you not get embarrassed, ever, by how gullible you are?

[ClaretMoffitt]

Around 1,500 people gathered to peacefully protest Mr Yiannopoulos’ visit before a smaller group of people dressed in black started a wave of vandalism.

“This was a group of agitators who were masked up, throwing rocks, commercial grade fireworks and Molotov cocktails at officers,” said UC Berkeley Police Chief Margo Bennet.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 58946.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Stop trying to pretend that when violence occurs at peaceful protests that it's because the protests aren't peaceful. Stop listening to people who repeatedly lie to you in order to paint themselves as victims of the left.

Do you not get embarrassed, ever, by how gullible you are?

Not really, no.

[Caballo]

Around 1,500 people gathered to peacefully protest Mr Yiannopoulos’ visit before a smaller group of people dressed in black started a wave of vandalism.

“This was a group of agitators who were masked up, throwing rocks, commercial grade fireworks and Molotov cocktails at officers,” said UC Berkeley Police Chief Margo Bennet.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 58946.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Stop trying to pretend that when violence occurs at peaceful protests that it's because the protests aren't peaceful. Stop listening to people who repeatedly lie to you in order to paint themselves as victims of the left.

Do you not get embarrassed, ever, by how gullible you are?

More or less gullible than thinking only one side is involved in misinformation?

[Imploding Turtle]

You're right, and it's a good job I don't think that.

[ClaretMoffitt]

I have to say though, you have to be totally and utterly deranged and deluded to say what happened yesterday it Berkeley was a "peaceful protest".

[Imploding Turtle]

The protesters were peaceful. Those who weren't peaceful weren't protesters.

You have to be deluded and deranged to think that people who turn up all dressed in black, with black scarves covering their faces and who then commit violence are there to protest with the protesters.

[ClaretMoffitt]

The protesters were peaceful. Those who weren't peaceful weren't protesters.

You have to be deluded and deranged to think that people who turn up all dressed in black, with black scarves covering their faces and who then commit violence are there to protest with the protesters.

Yeah, I mean they only turned up to their protest, to fight against the exact same thing. Why on earth would anyone think they are there to protest with the protesters? Idiots right?

[Imploding Turtle]

Yeah, I mean they only turned up to their protest, to fight against the exact same thing. Why on earth would anyone think they are there to protest with the protesters? Idiots right?

They weren't protesting. Can you show me a single example of one of these black bloc lot actually protesting and then turning violent?

Even the police chief said they weren't with the protesters. But i suppose you know bwttwer because Milo Yiannopolous told you so, and he'd never lie to you, would he?

“I do not believe our students were involved in the vandalism and the violent behavior that occurred. This was a group of agitators who were masked up, throwing rocks, commercial grade fireworks and Molotov cocktails at officers,” UC Berkeley Police Chief Margo Bennet told reporters. “Those were not our students. That’s not our students’ behavior.”

...to fight against the exact same thing.

What, 4 banks and a starbucks?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/finger-poin ... l-protest/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ClaretMoffitt]

They weren't protesting. Can you show me a single example of one of these black bloc lot actually protesting and then turning violent?

Even the police chief said they weren't with the protesters. But i suppose you know bwttwer because Milo Yiannopolous told you so, and he'd never lie to you, would he?

“I do not believe our students were involved in the vandalism and the violent behavior that occurred. This was a group of agitators who were masked up, throwing rocks, commercial grade fireworks and Molotov cocktails at officers,” UC Berkeley Police Chief Margo Bennet told reporters. “Those were not our students. That’s not our students’ behavior.”



What, 4 banks and a starbucks?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/finger-poin ... l-protest/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm sure a University spokesperson would say that, I mean its not like they are worried about bad press or anything, and all the assailants covered their faces, so who can call them out, right?

Also, your mates were in NYU yesterday doing their usual tricks elsewhere at a Gavin Mcinnes talk as well.

https://www.facebook.com/rousethatrabbl ... f=NEWSFEED" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NO TRUMP, NO KKK NO FASCISTS USA!!!

True heros, they are the real life Dumbledores Army our of time.

[Imploding Turtle]

When did "Police Chief" come to mean "Spokesperson".

Lol. so now these black bloc anarchists are my "mates"? You want to be careful accusing people like me of being sympathetic to violent criminals ("your mates") or others after i've explained to you how these people are completely different to the peaceful protesters who are protesting because I might just decide to apply your kind of tactics back towards you, by calling you sympathetic to Trump's ideology and therefore, according to your logic, responcible for the killings at a Canadian mosque. Hey, if peaceful protesters are responcible for black bloc anarchists who turn up at their protests that they can't you be responcible for pro-Trump terrorists?

[ClaretMoffitt]

When did "Police Chief" come to mean "Spokesperson".

Lol. so now these black bloc anarchists are my "mates"? You want to be careful accusing people like me of being sympathetic to violent criminals ("your mates") or others after i've explained to you how these people are completely different to the peaceful protesters who are protesting because I might just decide to apply your kind of tactics back towards you, by calling you sympathetic to Trump's ideology and therefore, according to your logic, responcible for the killings at a Canadian mosque. Hey, if peaceful protesters are responcible for black bloc anarchists who turn up at their protests that they can't you be responcible for pro-Trump terrorists?

Its their campus police, UCPD, we aren't talking about LAPD here as you know. The same UCPD that didn't make a single arrest the night in question, and have since only made 1 arrest, who was of course a non-student. I think that is a little odd myself, but that's just me.

You can blame me for attacks on the mosque all you want, but at the end of the day, as this thread itself proves. When **** like that happens, I call it out for what it is. You on the other hand don't really seem to care when people get hurt by violent far-left thugs, you simply try to distance them from the cause you believe in and brush them off as unrelated.

[Imploding Turtle]

Its their campus police, UCPD, we aren't talking about LAPD here as you know. The same UCPD that didn't make a single arrest the night in question, and have since only made 1 arrest, who was of course a non-student. I think that is a little odd myself, but that's just me.

You can blame me for attacks on the mosque all you want, but at the end of the day, as this thread itself proves. When **** like that happens, I call it out for what it is. You on the other hand don't really seem to care when people get hurt by violent far-left thugs, you simply try to distance them from the cause you believe in and brush them off as unrelated.

I'll believe the campus police, and my own eyes, over your protester-hating narrative.

You can blame me for attacks on the mosque all you want, but at the end of the day, as this thread itself proves. When **** like that happens, I call it out for what it is. You on the other hand don't really seem to care when people get hurt by violent far-left thugs, you simply try to distance them from the cause you believe in and brush them off as unrelated.

You aren't calling it out for what it is though. You're trying to pretend that the peaceful protesters are the ones committing the violence, all i'm doing is pointing out how you're wrong all the time. You seem to want to pool those violent thugs with the actual protesters and that makes absolutely no sense unless you hate protesters and want to unfairly tarnish them.

Why do you think they are dressed in all balck and hiding their identity? They aren't there to protest with the protesters. They're theyre to commit violence, therefore they're not with the protesters. Either acknowledge that or you'll have to deal with the knowledge that you're full of ****.

[morpheus2]

[claretdom]

When you see charlies mockrage on this thread it is hard to believe he used people losing their lives in a plane crash in an attempt at humour yet here he is with his houlier than thou shite.

Maybe one group of people who lost their lives is fair game for amusement, maybe the lives lost in Canada are too soon for his bitter twisted moral compass or probably that the truth is, it doesn't suit his childish agenda or he is a hypocrite - maybe even both.

[Imploding Turtle]

When you see charlies mockrage on this thread it is hard to believe he used people losing their lives in a plane crash in an attempt at humour yet here he is with his houlier than thou shite.

Maybe one group of people who lost their lives is fair game for amusement, maybe the lives lost in Canada are too soon for his bitter twisted moral compass or probably that the truth is, it doesn't suit his childish agenda or he is a hypocrite - maybe even both.

What mockrage? All I'm doing is pointing out that those people committing violence aren't the protesters.

And what about your mockrage over a wage bill joke? you can't get over it, can you? You poor mite.