Bournemouth to get relegated?

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:56 pm

Currently on a bad run of form with only two centre-backs and they've just announced that Callum Wilson has done his ACL. Think they could easily slip down.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:59 pm

He's only scored 6 goals this season, who else have they got?

Gradel & Afobe?

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:00 pm

I don't think Swansea or CP are going down , so someone is going to slide. I think and hope it is Boro, but it is anyone's guess.

lesxdp · Post by **lesxdp** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:21 pm

so someone is going to slide. I think and hope it is LEICESTER

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:22 pm

Sunderland, Leicester and Bournemouth for me.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:23 pm

So Boro fans are amusing at the minute, so to are Leicester's judging from that poll recently about getting rid of Ranieri.

Bournemouth being relegated would ruin the fairy tale the media painted...

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:24 pm

Looking at the table, it's hard to pick 3 to go down. Sunderland look like a hamster in a wheel - going nowhere fast. The rest all have enough to get out of the scrap.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:29 pm

Mourinho was sacked the season after winning the title due to poor form, why should ranieri be bulletproof? Leicester are a big club now..

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:34 pm

Bournemouth you can get odds as high as 25/1, best price on us is 18/1.
Best price on Leicester is 5/1.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:36 pm

Saxoman wrote:Mourinho was sacked the season after winning the title due to poor form, why should ranieri be bulletproof? Leicester are a big club now..

He isn't bulletproof.

Now Coyle, he appears to be bullet proof

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:38 pm

Sidney1st wrote:
Now Coyle, he appears to be bullet proof

You expect me to argue that point? Venkys want us down to pay league 1 wages..

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:38 pm

MrTopTier wrote:Bournemouth you can get odds as high as 25/1, best price on us is 18/1.
Best price on Leicester is 5/1.

I'm sure somebody mentioned 50/1 on us to go down, yesterday. That's a big swing.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:41 pm

I am just concentrating on one game at a time and want 9 points as soon as possible

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:47 pm

Can't see Bournemouth going down, even given their current issues. They're on 26 points already and I'd say 35 will probably be enough this year so 3 wins from 15 games is more than doable.

If they get 35 points it means four of the bottom six will need to suddenly change their form dramatically. None of them are averaging a point a game so far this season, yet they would need to achieve this to stand any chance of survival. One or two might, but not four.

If I had to guess at this point I'd say Sunderland, Hull and Boro personally. Although I genuinely think Hull can get out of it; this new manager has a great record and a fresh approach for the PL.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:53 pm

I'm sure somebody mentioned 50/1 on us to go down, yesterday. That's a big swing.

odds are off oddschecker Frank

MrHungry · Post by **MrHungry** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:54 pm

Sunderland palace and hopefully we put west ham down on the last day.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:00 pm

Saxoman wrote:Mourinho was sacked the season after winning the title due to poor form, why should ranieri be bulletproof? Leicester are a big club now..

Mourinho had lost the dressing room, Ranieri has just lost Vardy and Mahrez(Kante having been sold from under him), he'd have been better off if they'd been sold as well.

AshevilleNCClaret · Post by **AshevilleNCClaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:01 pm

lesxdp wrote:so someone is going to slide. I think and hope it is LEICESTER

They looked uninterested Tuesday, mahrez especially. If they think they can go through the motions and stay up, they will be in trouble.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:03 pm

They alongside a few others (ourselves included) could still get dragged down
into a scrap especially if they go on a bad run over the next 5 or 6 games.

They've got some tricky games coming up (Everton, West Brom and Man U away
Man City West Ham & Swansea at home I think) so if they only pick up a few points from those
they'll probably be down in the mix.

Hope not as they've played some good football this season and I like Eddie.
I think he did a good job for us and brought in some decent players.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:04 pm

Want Bournemouth down, can't stand managers like howe with their gung ho football. A very very poor tactition.

Crystal palace will pull clear under the wonderfully talented Sam allardyce.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:06 pm

Sounds like someone close to home, hey Saxo

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:16 pm

Sidney1st wrote:So Boro fans are amusing at the minute, so to are Leicester's judging from that poll recently about getting rid of Ranieri.

Bournemouth being relegated would ruin the fairy tale the media painted...

I disagree, I think taking an awful League Two side under a transfer embargo to the PL is a remarkable achievement regardless of who it's done by. I understand it's Howe and he won't get credit on here but it's a little unfair on him to downplay his achievement imo.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:31 pm

One match at a time....

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:I disagree, I think taking an awful League Two side under a transfer embargo to the PL is a remarkable achievement regardless of who it's done by. I understand it's Howe and he won't get credit on here but it's a little unfair on him to downplay his achievement imo.

I personally have nothing against Howe but if you believe he took a poor League Two side to the PL then you as so many others have swallowed the media fairytale.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:I disagree, I think taking an awful League Two side under a transfer embargo to the PL is a remarkable achievement regardless of who it's done by. I understand it's Howe and he won't get credit on here but it's a little unfair on him to downplay his achievement imo.

Hardly a Wimbledon, done on a shoestring tale, though.

Deardeary · Post by **Deardeary** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:23 pm

Hope Hull stay up, fancy 3 from Sunderland, Leicester, Boro, Bournemouth, Palace. Like most on here, don't mind Boro fans who in my opinion are not much different than us, it's the manager who's a complete dick

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:35 pm

Their south coast neighbours look to be in a bit of trouble too. No central defenders - Fonte sold, van Dijk crocked. They could go into free-fall!

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:41 pm

minnieclaret wrote:Mourinho had lost the dressing room, Ranieri has just lost Vardy and Mahrez(Kante having been sold from under him), he'd have been better off if they'd been sold as well.

I'd say he's lost more than just Vardy and Mahrez. I think the entire team has lost the plot. Their shape in the second half was as bad as any team I can remember all season. We had 2v1 on the wings so often, and without the pace of Vardy / Mahrez, or the fouling of Huth / Morgan from set plays, I couldn't see any way of them scoring. The only player who seemed to do his job properly was Albrighton. Looked dangerous going forward, put Lowton under pressure, and tracked back. And he got taken off. On another day it could have been 3-0. It was a bit like watching a mid table championship team. A few decent players, the odd superstar, a defence who can't deal with pace or skill, and a whole bunch of naivety when it comes to getting results. The big difference between us and them are the last 2 points. Especially at home. Take that mentality into away games, and I'll be a happy man.

As for Bournemouth getting relegated... Hull and Swansea look like they can pick up results, and I wouldn't bet against Sam at CP. Leicester, Boro and Bournemouth should be very cautious. Having said that, I think us and Watford still have work to do. I have assumed Sunderland are doomed (but who knows), and I would put Saints and WHU as being too good to go down.. But this battle isn't over by a long shot.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:I disagree, I think taking an awful League Two side under a transfer embargo to the PL is a remarkable achievement regardless of who it's done by. I understand it's Howe and he won't get credit on here but it's a little unfair on him to downplay his achievement imo.

I like Howe and respect what hes done, but I don't like the media fairy tale story, they did the same about Southampton

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:53 pm

Bournemouth net spend 1st year in Prem - £28m
Burnley net spend this year in Prem - £35m
Bournemouth net spend this year - £20m

maccclaret · Post by **maccclaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:32 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Bournemouth net spend 1st year in Prem - £28m
Burnley net spend this year in Prem - £35m
Bournemouth net spend this year - £20m

Yes, but the market went up by at least 25% on the back of the new TV deal.

And let's look at the wage bill.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:45 pm

anyone have data at hand that shows points performance over the last 10 games in a given season over the last 10 years perhaps?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:55 pm

claretburns wrote:I personally have nothing against Howe but if you believe he took a poor League Two side to the PL then you as so many others have swallowed the media fairytale.

It's a fact? He took a League Two side to the PL?

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:56 pm

I thought Swansea were dead and buried but they've picked up the same amount of points as us in the last 5 games.

Sunderland
Boro
Leicester

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:03 pm

Not quite what you're after NRC, however attached shows number of points accrued per position between 2003 and 2013

http://statsbomb.com/2014/01/the-premie ... -position/

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:20 pm

Saxoman wrote:You expect me to argue that point? Venkys want us down to pay league 1 wages..

We want you down just to laugh at the years of crap that roverrrrs fans dished out to us. Enjoy league 1, if you're lucky you won't slip down to league 2! Either way, Long Live The Venkys

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:09 pm

Sunderland, Hull & Palace

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:37 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'm sure somebody mentioned 50/1 on us to go down, yesterday. That's a big swing.

I thought it was 1/50 to stay up, I could be wrong though.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:52 pm

I think the bottom three at the end of the season will come from the current bottom six. I suspect the rest, from Bournemouth upwards, should be safe.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:18 am

ClaretTony wrote:I think the bottom three at the end of the season will come from the current bottom six. I suspect the rest, from Bournemouth upwards, should be safe.

hope so, if Dyche keeps us up he should get manager of the year (but Conte will get it)

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:05 am

Alan McAnally said the same the other day and that we were doing outstandingly brilliantly.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:15 am

summitclaret wrote:Alan McAnally.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:20 pm

Schmeichel still cares. He's a very good keeper who, let's face it, started his career on a complete loser (given who is father is). He took time to learn his trade, but then most keepers do, but he has done extremely well IMO.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:21 pm

That McAnally talks out his arse