Defending at home v away

[Spijed]

Why do we defend so poorly at times away from home, yet restrict teams to very few clear cut chances at Turf Moor?

Would we have conceded today's sloppy goals at home?

[cricketfieldclarets]

The support at home has been a massive factor. 12th man.

[jurek]

Cometh the hour cometh the fans.

Support away has been pretty good too but it looks as if
the support at home may well make the difference and help us get
the majority of the 8/9 or 10 points we probably need.

[KRBFC]

Why do we defend so poorly at times away from home, yet restrict teams to very few clear cut chances at Turf Moor?

Would we have conceded today's sloppy goals at home?

It's strange really, the pressure I guess. We shoot ourselves in the foot sometimes away from home by inviting pressure which lifts the home crowd and completely traps us in our own half. IMO when you allow quality players to trap you in your own half, you're practically waiting for them to produce the goods and score. Now and again, with a bit of luck and excellent defending you can scrape something from parking the bus (Old Trafford an example) but the majority of the time the pressure is just too much. I wouldn't look to deep into today's result, the game was a complete write off after 5 minutes and I personally thought we did extremely well to make a game of it. Could we have defended the goals better? Yeah, would we have still lost? more than likely with 10 men for over 90 minutes in a football game away from home.

[minnieclaret]

We play 20yds deeper away and allow the opposition to dominate the ball.
We don't break out as a team. At home when we break perhaps 5 will go, this just doesn't happen away. It's the long pass? up to an isolated Gray or Barnes, who aren't good enough, at hold up play, to allow teammates to get to them.

[claretspice]

It must be said that yesterday, our defending - both in failing to stop the cross and dealing with it when it came in - was attrocious on both goals. Im willing to allow some allowance for the crosses, especially the first when we clearly were still reorganising, but Keane can look at himself for both goals and Lowton for the first certainly. Probably a bigger factor in the game than the failure to send Niang off.

[Spijed]

We defend crosses so well at home. Regardless of how far up the pitch we squeeze the opposition, surely marking & heading a ball whilst in our own box should be exactly the same whether home or away.

[claretspice]

Cant disagree with that Spijed.

[ksrclaret]

We looked weak and easily bullied on both goals yesterday and on a few other occasions. I don't ever remember seeing that at home so it has to be down to the fact we haven't won an away game all season and as such the confidence just isn't there.

We need a result against Hull quite badly I think.

[Colburn_Claret]

We play 20yds deeper away and allow the opposition to dominate the ball.
We don't break out as a team. At home when we break perhaps 5 will go, this just doesn't happen away. It's the long pass? up to an isolated Gray or Barnes, who aren't good enough, at hold up play, to allow teammates to get to them.

Which is why we need Tarks in front of the back four to allow the midfield to play a higher line, and closer to the front two.

The problem is there isn't a lot wrong with what we do away from home, which would require major overhauls, it just needs a tweak and it could all fall into place.

[Right_winger]

It's been obvious for some time now that it's a mentality thing more than anything else.

We done the same last year aswell except the opposition were no where near as good at either end so then margins were in our favour.

It really is as simple as sitting way too deep inviting pressure, Even Dyche himself has expressed his frustration at it.

However we are starting to squeeze up the pitch with every away game that passes. The win will come soon.

[claretspice]

Which is why we need Tarks in front of the back four to allow the midfield to play a higher line, and closer to the front two.

The problem is there isn't a lot wrong with what we do away from home, which would require major overhauls, it just needs a tweak and it could all fall into place.

Play Tarkowski in front of the back four and there will only be 1 up front, to start with.

Tarkowski can play the holding role, but he's the third best exponent of it at the club after Barton and Westwood, so i don't expect him to start in thst role any time soon, except perhaps against Lincoln.

If we're tweaking things on the road, the only possible change i'd contemplate is using Boyd as a ranging number 10, operating between the central 2 and main striker, with licence to run in behind when he gets a chance. It might be a particular option at Hull, when we won't have the legs of either Hendrick or Marney to help link with the front 2.

[minnieclaret]

Which is why we need Tarks in front of the back four to allow the midfield to play a higher line, and closer to the front two.

The problem is there isn't a lot wrong with what we do away from home, which would require major overhauls, it just needs a tweak and it could all fall into place.

Basically agree. I 've been one calling for Tarks in a back3 of a 3-5-2. It's not going to happen and I'm not sure he's the man for the holding role. Joey is but it takes away so much good that he brings to the side more advanced.

[Sfw]

For me the full backs, particularly Lowton give too much space and time for the oppositions wingers/full backs. Also another problem is that the opposition forwards bully both Keane and Mee. That could be down to the extra pressure of defending 20 yard deeper.

[ten bellies]

Both crosses yesterday were pinpoint, so very difficult to defend.