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Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:00 pm
by KefkaClaret
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Thought it was interesting seeing as we held a minute's silence every bloody week last season.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:03 pm
by Sutton-Claret
Looks like Matic is copping a feel of Marcosa's buttock cheek - show some respect lad.......

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:07 pm
by ElectroClaret
Probably.

We're having a minutes applause for Marney's knee on Saturday.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:08 pm
by minnieclaret
people grieve in different ways. If it helps the families it doesn't harm me.
I do find that giraffe mascot offensive and I don't know why?

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:08 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
These should be kept to a minimum or they lose their "uniqueness" (if that is a word).

The minutes silence for "our dead" over the last 12 months is fine. a minutes applause for a footballer who has suffered a personal bereavement is probably over-stretching things.

Perhaps we need a Group to decide on these things.

Am I the only one who have been caught out by "spontaneous applause" for something "obscure" (no offence meant)??

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:10 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Yes it's the Diane Syndrom .People seem to get sucked into to grieving for people they've never known.Like the growth of flowers tied to fences.bridges and trees it's all a bit morbid

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:14 pm
by LeadBelly
Not just football; society has an obsession with displays of grief. Wouldn't do to shed a little tear in private, got to be seen to leave a bunch of flowers/shed tears in public etc.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:14 pm
by john'sroseyspecs
No. Society has. No such thing as a stupid accident. Everything has meaning. I think football clubs are concerned that they will be criticised by some sections of the public if they don't mark the passing of anyone vaguely connected with the club or area. I think some things don't need a communal ceremony.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:15 pm
by Sidney1st
Its not just football,its society in general.

Its all over social media, FB can be hilarious with how many people are chucking out rip images/status' about people they've never spoken or cared about before.

Also in various groups they're all determined to create their own post stating their grief when they don't really need too.

People grieve and I understand that each person has their own way, but sometimes its just too much to have to wade through on FB.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:16 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Fashionable to grieve in public now.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:16 pm
by john'sroseyspecs
Not just me then

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:17 pm
by Dark Cloud
Yes it has, but I still think it's right and proper that we have a minute's applause in the 80th minute for Mary Tyler Moore this coming saturday. Fairs, fair!

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:20 pm
by CombatClaret
In the social media age where outrage is quick to build I think clubs are held hostage to the risk of seeming cold/unsympathetic.
To take a different cynical approach though these displays have increased as clubs become more corporate and less personable, fans turn into customers. Mourning the dead is a great & easy way to show just how caring and in touch a club is...

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:21 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
So, to save everyone a nano-millimetre of their skin as they applaud my demise (it's due in 78 years from now by the way), you can wish me luck as you wave me goodbye... I am a bit of a pragmatist when it comes to death... we all have to do it!

Remember me as you will, but be thankful that it's not for a long time yet ;)

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:28 pm
by Acting Claret
The army and the last post was just laughable.
How many who were silent because they were told to were bothered to go to war memorial on the Sunday?
Nothing to do with football.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:09 am
by Chester Perry
Ever since Diana died in that crash the country has gone positively Victorian about death

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:40 am
by secessionman
Didn't we do the minutes silence for Ken Bigley and Emlyn Hughes in 2004?

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:44 am
by bfcpete
Should have them for ex players only. Its really sad if anyone linked with club dies, especially for family but recently I'm up and down all the bloody time.

Especially not for other teams ex players. I only saw emlyn Hughes on question of sport

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:58 am
by Rileybobs
Hull City are doing a minutes applause for Ryan Mason tonight I believe.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:08 am
by Sproggy
Ken Bigley was a good one. I think we were all united in grief that day.

More recently I enjoyed the minute observed by Leicester City players for the passing of the King of Thailand - I believe he spent a lot of time in the city on his holidays - and the black armbands worn by Chelsea players for Willian's mum which was a much more personal gesture than, say, attending the funeral.

I don't know about you but I'm still not completely over Gary Speed.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 am
by Sidney1st
Sproggy wrote:
I don't know about you but I'm still not completely over Gary Speed.
Really?
I'm not trying to be offensive, but it's just over 5 years now since he went on his way.

Or are you on a wind up?

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:17 am
by Blackrod
Yes. Appropriate for Remembrance Day and notable ex Clarets. Doing this nearly every week is cringeworthy. The memorial garden is a ridiculous idea IMO. Why can't people grieve privately. People go to football for escapism and entertainment.

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:05 am
by claretblue
RalphCoatesComb wrote:So, to save everyone a nano-millimetre of their skin as they applaud my demise (it's due in 78 years from now by the way), you can wish me luck as you wave me goodbye... I am a bit of a pragmatist when it comes to death... we all have to do it!

Remember me as you will, but be thankful that it's not for a long time yet ;)
don't go 'till I've spotted that b****y ball Ralph! :x

:D

Re: Has Football developed an unhealthy obsession with grief?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:28 am
by HendricksHair
RalphCoatesComb wrote: Am I the only one who have been caught out by "spontaneous applause" for something "obscure" (no offence meant)??
Earlier in the season one broke out and my uncle turned and asked what it was for and I just told him I guess someone's died. Sounds harsh but we'd done one the week before and it just didn't feel as powerful as they used to when it would only happen once or twice a season.