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Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:47 pm
by joey13
No first touch , can't hold the ball up, not a premier league player , just some of the comments on a previous thread .
Thought he was absolutely outstanding tonight, any doubters now ?

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:48 pm
by cutsy123
He had a fantastic game as did barnes

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:48 pm
by KRBFC
Agreed, top quality when given a bit of service, if only we could take that level of performance away from home.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:49 pm
by jedi_master
He was superb, Morgan really struggled with Gray's strength today. He did so well backing in to the big man.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:49 pm
by joey13
Yes and Barnes

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:50 pm
by HollandsPies
Both were a thorn in their sides all night. Roll on next game ...

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:50 pm
by joey13
KRBFC wrote:Agreed, top quality when given a bit of service, if only we could take that level of performance away from home.
What you think of his first touch ?

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:50 pm
by box_of_frogs
His only weakness tonight was shooting when he should've cut it back. Can't blame for him for taking the shoots tho!

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:51 pm
by KRBFC
joey13 wrote:What you think of his first touch ?
I've never ever criticised Gray, if you actually look I was the one arguing for him and not against. I even got banned for arguing with a certain poster who was slagging Gray

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:53 pm
by joey13
KRBFC wrote:I've never ever criticised Gray, if you actually look I was the one arguing for him and not against. I even got banned for arguing with a certain poster who was slagging Gray
I must have mistaken you for Cooper

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:53 pm
by CombatClaret
He's still got work to do but all the signs are there. Great game for him today, unlucky not to score but he can learn to make his own luck.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:54 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Where's Mohammed now? In the first 20 mins there were 2 occasions where his first touch was sublime. Outstanding tonight and if not for that animal Huth headlocking him he would have been free on goal

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:57 pm
by RVclaret
He caused Huth and Morgan problems all night with his pace and power. His link up play and general movement was a LOT better tonight too. Deserved a goal.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:00 pm
by NRC
Both forwards were immense, without scoring. I think the most attempts we've had in a game at 24, but only 3 on target - so there are aspects we need to improve on. We were all over them like a rash, but that ratio of attempts/on-target needs to improve

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:00 pm
by roamingclaret
Watching on tv.
.ANDRE WAS IMMENSE!

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:05 pm
by scouseclaret
Couldn't go tonight but interesting to hear about gray coz Huth had him in his pocket in the away fixture. Just shows how the club and the players individually are growing into this league.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:17 pm
by SGr
At the start of this season before he got benched, he wasn't good enough. Neither was Hendrick.
But Dyche has done his work on both and they were brilliant tonight - and get better every time I watch them.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:21 pm
by LawsCanalJump
Did great against Morgan/Huth

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:23 pm
by mkmel
One of his best games in a Claret shirt IMO.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:23 pm
by CnBtruntru
I was coming on this thread to give you a mouthful, glad I did not need to, Gray is a lot better player since he has come back into the squad, Grown up a bit?

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:23 pm
by mohamed69
Cleveleys_claret wrote:Where's Mohammed now? In the first 20 mins there were 2 occasions where his first touch was sublime. Outstanding tonight and if not for that animal Huth headlocking him he would have been free on goal
I've been serving a long string of bans.

He was absolutely excellent tonight. Great day to be a claret!

Heaton a bit dodgy, however.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:28 pm
by KRBFC
mohamed69 wrote:I've been serving a long string of bans.

He was absolutely excellent tonight. Great day to be a claret!

Heaton a bit dodgy, however.
Here's the man I got banned for arguing with about Gray :lol: Bumba too
Never doubt Andre.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:32 pm
by joey13
mohamed69 wrote:I've been serving a long string of bans.

He was absolutely excellent tonight. Great day to be a claret!

Heaton a bit dodgy, however.
Have you ever tried catching a bar of soap in the rain

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:47 pm
by bfccrazy
Think the boost for Gray has been that ban weirdly enough - he looked to have hit the gym and build strength for a while and has now found that happy medium of pace and power.

Defenders truly look terrified of him. When he was harrassing them and running at them the way it was no nonsense and straight out showed they didnt want a battle with him - same against Sunderland wherw within first 10 mins he'd out powered one CB and out paced the other.....they sh*t it after that.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:49 pm
by PWBFC
Excellent tonight. I'm sure it's been discussed but now would be a great time to try and get him tied down for another couple of years.

Should think he's happy to see what's about in the summer though.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:52 pm
by Belial
On another day he could have had a couple tonight

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:55 pm
by bobinho
joey13 wrote:No first touch , can't hold the ball up, not a premier league player , just some of the comments on a previous thread .
Thought he was absolutely outstanding tonight, any doubters now ?
Typical knee jerk. Been relatively average for a while now. Puts a good performance in and all of a sudden he's a world beater???

His performance tonite was great. Played well and the suspect first touch that we all know he has wasn't evident. Let's have ten good games like tonite and you may have a point.

So yes. In answer to your question, I am still a doubter. Did he play well tonite? Damn right he did. He was excellent, but it's just one performance. Long may it continue of course, but let's wait til he's improved consistently before declaring him premier league class.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:57 pm
by joey13
He hasn't got a suspect first touch though

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:01 pm
by bobinho
joey13 wrote:He hasn't got a suspect first touch though
You are right. It's not suspect. It's confirmed shockingly bad for a PL player. Sometimes, (most of the time) passing to gray is like kicking the ball very hard against a trampoline.

Great game tonite tho.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:16 pm
by Wile E Coyote
bobinho wrote:You are right. It's not suspect. It's confirmed shockingly bad for a PL player. Sometimes, (most of the time) passing to gray is like kicking the ball very hard against a trampoline.

Great game tonite tho.
presumably a trampoline placed unusually on its side.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:18 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
He is improving with every game, seems to be growing into the premier league.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:32 pm
by ontario claret
The thing about Andre is that he has no fear. He ventures where lesser mortals fear to tread.

Re: Andre Gray not good enough?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:41 pm
by Inchy
His first touch is poor at this level IMO


However his pace and eye for goal makes up for it. If he has a bit more quality on the ball he wouldn't be playing for us, he would be playing with one of the top 3.

He still getting better and he will
Always score goals