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mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:29 pm
by Lowbankclaret
No different to Hendricks, in fact it was worse.

He gats a yellow, all we want is consistancy.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:50 pm
by MT03ALG
He plays for Man U not Burnley

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:00 pm
by joey13
Watch it again Matas foot wasn't as high , a booking was right

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:04 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Still should have been a red card though.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:05 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
Studs showing, out of control. Marginally less serious than Hendrick, however, Mata is lucky to still be on the park with the way the modern game is governed.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:06 pm
by starting_11
They had one earlier too in the Leeds/Hudds game.

Not much contact made but still - doesn't change that the player was out of control etc

No booking, not even a free kick I don't think.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:32 pm
by Pepperclaret
Cirrus_Minor wrote:Still should have been a red card though.
I would agree and even Gary Neville descibed it as "borderline" which says it all. Jamie Carragher thought it an "orange" card which suggests he enjoys his job at Sky

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:37 pm
by Marlonspants
It's gone. There is no good bleating about it now. Heads up and move on.

The goal is to stay in the Premier League. If we do that by having scored one more goal than 3rd from bottom then so be it.

We can only get stronger.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:43 pm
by KRBFC
Who is Hendricks?

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:50 pm
by BennyD
Who are you?

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:54 pm
by MDWat
Mata - yellow
Hendrick - red

Nothing to see here.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:57 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Bad one from Mata that. Should have seen red.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:59 pm
by HatfieldClaret
Unless you stop the game and have a panel of 'experts' make a ruling every time, there will always be a certain amount of inconsistency.

Get over it.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:20 pm
by minnieclaret
RED. Slid in studs leading and caught his ankle.
Hendricks' was a red and he didn't catch him with his studs, it was his instep.
Could have made a massive difference to the outcome today.
Thank god he left him on.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:23 pm
by Vegas Claret
Maybe a red but as we wanted a Man Utd win I would say even a yellow was harsh ;)

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:24 pm
by Rileybobs
Hendrick's was a red, no complaints there.

I think Mata's was also a red. He was out of control and his he led with his studs. There's no rule that mitigates the offence based on how high up the leg the other player is caught.

Vardy made a meal of it which may have made the referee's decision easier. No one likes a cheat.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:26 pm
by MT03ALG
:shock: Moaninho has instructed the referees not to issue any more red cards to United players this season. Enough is enough.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:35 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
I thought the discussion was about an incorrect decision not to send off Mata for a clear red card tackle. Not sure what Hendrick's red card has to do with it.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:52 pm
by Man of Kent
Lowbankclaret wrote:No different to Hendricks, in fact it was worse.

He gats a yellow, all we want is consistancy.
I repeat what I have said before - the (professional) referees are part of a closed shop in the FA and are 'encouraged' to ensure that the so-called big teams always win and the pesky interlopers - like Burnley - are seen off and out of their precious Premier League. What is good for the big teams is good for the franchise and is good for the referees. We have to get used to this situation.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:54 pm
by joey13
It doesn't really mata as we wanted Man U to win

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:57 pm
by Sidney1st
Wasn't there a former ref who used to post on CM?
Didn't they migrate over with us?

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:03 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Man of Kent wrote:I repeat what I have said before - the (professional) referees are part of a closed shop in the FA and are 'encouraged' to ensure that the so-called big teams always win and the pesky interlopers - like Burnley - are seen off and out of their precious Premier League. What is good for the big teams is good for the franchise and is good for the referees. We have to get used to this situation.
To be fair United, City and Arsenal have all had players sent off against us.
Some shocking other decisions against us though.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:03 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Man of Kent wrote:I repeat what I have said before - the (professional) referees are part of a closed shop in the FA and are 'encouraged' to ensure that the so-called big teams always win and the pesky interlopers - like Burnley - are seen off and out of their precious Premier League. What is good for the big teams is good for the franchise and is good for the referees. We have to get used to this situation.
I 100% agree, reviews would balance this out though.

The goal line tech has been a massive success in my humble opinion.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:45 pm
by quoonbeatz
Worse than Hendrick's, still only really worth a booking though.

Saying that, the worst 'tackle' I've seem this week was the ndidi one on Hendrick on Tuesday which was a blatant attempt to injure an opponent and didn't even result in a booking.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:46 pm
by Juan Tanamera
HatfieldClaret wrote:Unless you stop the game and have a panel of 'experts' make a ruling every time, there will always be a certain amount of inconsistency.

Get over it.
If we 'get over it' there would be little point in debating anything.

There was a comparison to made between Hendrick's tackle and Mata's tackle and the OP made it.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:25 pm
by Frenchclaret
MOTD pundits saying ref didn't give him a red because it was Mata and he is a good boy who doesn't foul deliberately. B*ll*cks!!!

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:16 am
by Right_winger
It was very late and with a lot of force, studs were up. Red Card

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:46 am
by gogogadgetlegs
Ring the F.A. (see below)

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:48 am
by gogogadgetlegs

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:31 am
by HiroshimaClaret
Just seen the Mata challenge a mata of minutes ago and it should have been a red, ABSOLUTELY no question. You can be certain if that would have BEEN on Mata, 8 times out of 10, it would have been a red OR Mourinho would have been calling it a criminal offence.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:02 am
by Shore claret
I thought he was lucky to stay on, I think if it was a defender or defensive midfielder he would of gone. Refs seem to give the more gifted attacking players more leeway, he's an attacker coming back they can't tackle properly, cue sniggering from the attackers on the panel.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:15 am
by Ashingtonclaret46
It is galling to hear it said that "Mata is not that type of player and that is why he probably got yellow" --what has that got to do with anything?

Jeff Hendrick's dismissal on Saturday was his first in 200+ appearances in professional football, so is he "that type of player"?
It is also annoying to hear a 'pundit' state that it was a cowardly tackle and that he had no intent to get the ball -- if Hendrick was over the top, the accusation made against him is totally out of order.
It was a mistimed tackle and he deserved red, just as Mata's was a mistimed tackle and deserved red whether or not he is "that type of player"

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:24 am
by KippaxFifaHD
For me, straight red. No question about it. He went in out of control with two feet and the force he went in with was enough for Vardy to practically do a front flip! Vardy was lucky to escape without a broken ankle! Hendrick one on Saturday was harsh imo but I can see where the ref was coming from, but the Mata one yesterday was much worse

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:29 am
by HiroshimaClaret
Shore claret wrote:I thought he was lucky to stay on, I think if it was a defender or defensive midfielder he would of gone. Refs seem to give the more gifted attacking players more leeway, he's an attacker coming back they can't tackle properly, cue sniggering from the attackers on the panel.
I think you have a VERY good point here.

Re: mata tackle on 28 minutes today

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:14 pm
by Ric_C
Saw it on MOTD2 last night. Looked a red in real time. Looked a red in slow motion.

If you watch it back, Mata got dumped to the side of the pitch just before the foul, so I think he had a bit of red mist. For the speed he cam in at + studs showing, it was a definite red card all day long.