The gift that keeps on giving.

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Attaks..Hmm. Aren't they a pop group?

And he didn't even mention the horrific Bowling Green massacre where the truth was brutally murdered by a ruthless gang of imaginary terrorists!

You could of course argue that all this is making US citizens very fearful and getting them prepared to give up certain civil liberties to protect themselves.

But of course, its the "will of the people" so I for one won't be making that argument.

it's just embarrassing. The Bowling Green incident is an absolute classic. If you haven't watched this week's Saturday Night Live you should - it's very, very good

The Mellissa McCarthy **** take of Sean Spicer was comedy gold.

Even if you like Trump, you'd struggle not to laugh as she absolutely nails it.

the opening sketch where he's calling up the leaders of Mexico, Germany, Zimbabwe and Australia was so on the nose

"Person who going to pay for the wall says what"

Oh dear
When this has been investigated, he'll be sacking, then deporting his paperboy
I can see it coming.

OMG. Not fake news.

I don't know about Trumps news, but having lived on an army base all my life, and my Dad worked for the MOD on that camp, there were many terror related incidents that don't get reported. The fact is that spreading every scrap of terror related intelligence would just spread panic amongst the population.
There is also a reason why the secret service are called secret. To do what they do requires staying under the radar, to broadcast every success would be to show the terrorists where your knowledge is coming from. So the idea that America or Britain has unreported terror incidents isn't surprising, nor is the fact that Trump would rather broadcast it than keep it under his hat.

Colburn_Claret wrote:I don't know about Trumps news, but having lived on an army base all my life, and my Dad worked for the MOD on that camp, there were many terror related incidents that don't get reported. The fact is that spreading every scrap of terror related intelligence would just spread panic amongst the population.
There is also a reason why the secret service are called secret. To do what they do requires staying under the radar, to broadcast every success would be to show the terrorists where your knowledge is coming from. So the idea that America or Britain has unreported terror incidents isn't surprising, nor is the fact that Trump would rather broadcast it than keep it under his hat.

the point was that the 78 unreported attacks were all widely reported.

**** me, Trump could eliminate US Democracy in one day, and there would still be people on here trying to defend him.

He's trying to bullshit people so he can bring in a shed load of laws that will effect all US citizens civil liberties.

Lancasterclaret wrote:He's trying to bullshit people so he can bring in a shed load of laws that will effect all US citizens civil liberties.

As long as they can have weapons then many US citizens won't care!

Colburn_Claret wrote:I don't know about Trumps news, but having lived on an army base all my life, and my Dad worked for the MOD on that camp, there were many terror related incidents that don't get reported. The fact is that spreading every scrap of terror related intelligence would just spread panic amongst the population.
There is also a reason why the secret service are called secret. To do what they do requires staying under the radar, to broadcast every success would be to show the terrorists where your knowledge is coming from. So the idea that America or Britain has unreported terror incidents isn't surprising, nor is the fact that Trump would rather broadcast it than keep it under his hat.

Another brainwashed soul.....

Not only does Trump spread lies he more dangerously attacks the institutions empowered in a democracy to expose lies are themselves corrupt, dishonest and lying (universities, judges, free press etc).
From an article today:

"This reckless disregard of reality reveals an unusual quality to Trump’s lying. Other presidents lied to deceive their opponents. Not so Trump. Trump does not even make the pretense of trying to hoodwink his opponents. Instead, he deceives his supporters. By lying about the neutrality and integrity of our truth-defending institutions, he consolidates his power by depriving his supporters of tools that might authorize an informed, critical assessment of his performance."

I'm not brainwashed, I can't stand the bloke.

It doesn't blind me to the fact that people would complain about which hand he wipes his arse with.
I'm not trying to defend him, just trying to get people to view him with out all the paranoia that surrounds his every utterance.

People slag him off because he wants to ban Muslims from certain countries, quite rightly. The same people don't want to publicise that he chose "those" countries because they are unwilling to share vital intelligence with the U.S. The same people don't want to mention all those countries who summarily ban anyone with an Israeli stamp in their passports, regardless of whether they are Jewish or not. The same people don't want to publicise the fact that we trade and have diplomatic liaison with all those same countries.

Trump is an arse, but the hypocrisy of the people slagging him off makes most of them arses too.

Maxine Waters claimed yesterday that Putin is invading Korea ..............Classic.

Yeah, give the bloke a chance.

Lets see what he's really up to!

(there may be a massive dollop of sarcasm in my post)

Corbyn has been inviting terrorists to the HOP for decades, no problem apparently. Last week some Labour arse invited somebody who thought that Churchill was the son of a whore, and Wilberforce didn't end slavery, he just used to dick black women on the side.
Yet the duly elected leader of one of the worlds biggest nations, one of our greatest allies, and one of our important traders, gets the elbow because he isn't seen as fit.

Like I said, I can't stand the bloke, but the people slagging him off have very short memories, or very limited intelligence. It isn't that you're wrong to criticise him, but the fact that you paint everything he does as black with no balance. We suffered for 20 years with radicals preaching hatred on the steps of Mosques in London, untouchable..... Then have demonstrations in the streets to ban Trump.

I know which I'd rather have, and it isn't because I like him.

Christ, you really are a walking, talking Daily Mail editorial at times Colburn.

And NOTHING, NOTHING pisses me off more than intelligent people defending trump by bringing up stuff that they absolutely wouldn't give two hoots about normally.

Guido Fawkes has taken it to a new level this week, which is saying something.

Colburn_Claret wrote:I'm not brainwashed, I can't stand the bloke.

It doesn't blind me to the fact that people would complain about which hand he wipes his arse with.
I'm not trying to defend him, just trying to get people to view him with out all the paranoia that surrounds his every utterance.

People slag him off because he wants to ban Muslims from certain countries, quite rightly. The same people don't want to publicise that he chose "those" countries because they are unwilling to share vital intelligence with the U.S. The same people don't want to mention all those countries who summarily ban anyone with an Israeli stamp in their passports, regardless of whether they are Jewish or not. The same people don't want to publicise the fact that we trade and have diplomatic liaison with all those same countries.

Trump is an arse, but the hypocrisy of the people slagging him off makes most of them arses too.

And yet he won't ban anyone from Saudi Arabia, a country that executes more people than the rest put together, all in the name of democracy. A country that has more links to terrorism than the rest put together. A country where women get executed for simply accusing men of rape.

Donald Trump doesn't care about protecting America, only protecting his own business interests. He couldn't care less about Americans being executed. If he did he would ban people from other countries, rather than the ones on the list.

As I said, people have been brainwashed.

Spijed wrote:And yet he won't ban anyone from Saudi Arabia, a country that executes more people than the rest put together, all in the name of democracy. A country that has more links to terrorism than the rest put together. A country where women get executed for simply accusing men of rape.

Donald Trump doesn't care about protecting America, only protecting his own business interests. He couldn't care less about Americans being executed. If he did he would ban people from other countries, rather than the ones on the list.

As I said, people have been brainwashed.

Your comments re Saudi are correct, however the list of banned countries ( not religions as is often misstated ) was collated by the Obama administration and yes people have been brainwashed !! You can judge who and who by.

FCBurnley wrote:Your comments re Saudi are correct, however the list of banned countries ( not religions as is often misstated ) was collated by the Obama administration and yes people have been brainwashed !! You can judge who and who by.

I agree. Obama was looking after his own interests as well.

ECHO, echo, echo .......

I don't think you should accuse people who are just trying to apply some context, or an alternative viewpoint, or some information that not all of us knew, of being brainwashed.

I'm sure we all (well most) dislike Trump, but remember, what he stands for is diametrically opposite to the liberalism and diversity that has been in ascendancy in the western world for two decades. But the liberalism has become oppressive and sometimes aggressive, so guess what,Trump gets elected. Le Pen might, and there are similar worrying rumblings throughout Europe.

Brainwashing comes from all sides as FCBurnley hints. No-one is aggressively defending Trump as far as I can see, who would? But things have got so, so bad that he's been voted in. ColbornClaret isn't brainwashed, it seems to me he's just trying to apply some context to an increasingly hysterical panic.

By the way, I'm not brainwashed before you say it. But then I guess I wouldn't know if I was...

Can someone explain the difference between Trump making statements without the facts to support them,and almost every other politician making statements supported by distorted and manipulated facts that do not resemble the truth.EG Thatchers tax cuts,Blair on Iraq,Blair increasing Nurses Doctors and police. Cameron on halving the debt.The list is endless, so why is Trump singled out