Nothing is more irritating and irrational about the modern game than the plethora of subs who enter the foray with seconds to go, it's time it was outlawed.

Up to 11 subs each side fine, 3 can be used in the match, but none in the last 15 minutes.
Yes occasionally that will deal out a rough hand, but it will mean managers have to be a lot more canny in their thinking and it will give subs some chance of having an impact.

It will make for a much better spectacle over the closing period of matches.

Didn't you ask something similar the other week?

I agree about the subs when there's barely anytime left, because clearly they're going to make a massive difference to the game with 30 secs left....

No Sidney that was the play-offs, keep up.

I'd put a singing section in the Bob Lord stand..

All seater stadiums

No injuries allowed in last 15 minutes because some fool wants to stop substitutions

1. Sack the transfer window debacle.

2. Severe punishment for cheating.

3. Outlaw the pulling, tugging and shirt pulling - punishable by death. (I hate it)

4. Stop the stupid the rule where an injured player has to leave the field, only to
be allowed back on seconds later.

5. If they don't abandon the transfer window system, then introduce one for change
of managers. That will concentrate the mind a bit ! !

I mentioned the fact that on occasion this might happen but for those who would get aggravated by this perhaps a better ruling would be only 1 substitution allowed in the last 20 minutes plus add on time. Anything which keeps the continuity of the game, prevents time wasting and gives subs a chance to influence the game.

Love to see the back pass totally outlawed in one's own half.

As has been said before the stupid suggestion above re banning subs would not be needed if subs were dealt with by the 4th offical without stopping the game (New player only allowed on when old one is off the pitch). Once again rugby is light years ahead.

I'd also like to see:-

Head camaras for all 4 officials
Trainers allowed on during open play apart from in the pen. areas
Diving receiving very long bans, including retrospectively.
1 appeal per half per manager in televised matches for limited things such as pen. appeals and goals.

Rugby isn't light years ahead, it's just a totally different game.

I wish there was a barrier so the ball couldnt go out of play for throw ins. Loads of time lost through games with these, and Burnley particularly are the worlds worst at taking them.

summitclaret wrote:As has been said before the stupid suggestion above re banning subs would not be needed if subs were dealt with by the 4th offical without stopping the game (New player only allowed on when old one is off the pitch). Once again rugby is light years ahead.

I'd also like to see:-

Head camaras for all 4 officials
Trainers allowed on during open play apart from in the pen. areas
Diving receiving very long bans, including retrospectively.
1 appeal per half per manager in televised matches for limited things such as pen. appeals and goals.

POINT 2.. I think players would slip quite a lot playing in trainers especially if the pitch had been watered. And how would you implement putting your boots on as the ball entered the penalty area?

One thing i could change on the pitch - 15-20 min sin bins for challenges that could be argued yellow or red cards

Off the pitch - safe standing it is a joke that this is still even being debating it should already be implemented

1. The obscene money - ruining it
2. Diving in the PL

Sidney1st wrote:Didn't you ask something similar the other week?

I agree about the subs when there's barely anytime left, because clearly they're going to make a massive difference to the game with 30 secs left....

This one?

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 95#p289295" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Referees give post match interview to explain why they completely ****** up

Two referees,one in each half of the pitch so they could keep up with play..

Also safe standing. It shouldn't even be an issue.

I was going to put the thread title, time to stop the subs, but I thought that might be a tad restrictive so instead a variant on an earlier theme, hope that satisfies you Sidney.

Bring back a maximum wage.
Allow only so many professional players at each club.

PS
A singing section in the Bob Lord just ain't going to happen.

Offside rule.

One video review per half for both managers. If you are correct you keep your review.
With only one managers wouldn't waste it.
As above refs should be forced to come out and explain their decisions.
yellow cards can be challenged. If it takes a committee all week justice should be seen to be done.
All transfer fees to be paid up front.

Televised matches.

To clarify, I would stop the televising of games live.

boatshed bill wrote:Televised matches.

Agree. We need more of them. Especially at 3pm on a Saturday

summitclaret wrote:Trainers allowed on during open play apart from in the pen. areas

I honestly don't see how this would work in football. It's too easy for the ball to get around the pitch quickly, and if you were injured in your own half, it would hugely affect the offside rule. Teams would also abuse it and aim the ball towards the opposing injured player to try and gain an advantage.

All transfer fees to be transparent, the last big taboo,money.

Full time national team manager. Can't remember the last international game England played but it must be getting on for 3 months ago. What has Gareth Southgate actually done in that intervening time that might loosely be considered useful or productive?

Silkyskills1 wrote:Full time national team manager. Can't remember the last international game England played but it must be getting on for 3 months ago. What has Gareth Southgate actually done in that intervening time that might loosely be considered useful or productive?

Pulled our number out at home in the FA Cup.

Glad he was able to find the time in his busy schedule.

Roosterbooster wrote:I honestly don't see how this would work in football. It's too easy for the ball to get around the pitch quickly, and if you were injured in your own half, it would hugely affect the offside rule. Teams would also abuse it and aim the ball towards the opposing injured player to try and gain an advantage.

Yes. Exeter City beat Newcastle in a cup match in about 1978 by using Steve Carney, injured on the floor, to do just that.

With a single pick, though, I'd go for the retrospective ban for diving and for simulation (eg the rolling over and over that the Hemed character for Brighton seems to have learned by watching Christiano Ronaldo).

If I get a pick for novelty, I'd import an idea from the NFL. Most of their rules that promote parity wouldn't work elsewhere. They have the advantage that there is only one league worth playing in. However, the one which limits the number of players that they have on their "active roster" to 53 would work fine. We obviously don't need 53, but maybe 24 outfield players, 3 goalkeepers + any number of players aged up to 19.

If you have too many, then one (or more) have to be released. They'd have to keep paying them, but any other team could pick them up - for the first 2 weeks if they agree to pay their wages as per existing contract in full, - thereafter at whatever rate they merit - with the side that ditched them picking up the difference.

That would stop the likes of Chelsea, Man United etc stockpiling players only for them to go out on loan or sit on their arses on the subs bench (which I'd reduce the numbers of, incidentally).

For me it has to be video technology for all goals and penalties awarded.

A 4th or 5th official (or both to offer a 2nd opinion) quickly reviews the goal or penalty and gives either a yes or no.

In the vast majority of cases this will not delay the game whatsoever as players are already either celebrating the goal or getting ready to take the penalty etc. There should be a maximum time limit on the review in those more complicated cases - say one minute max. Where no decision can be reached as they are unsure then the default is to go with whatever the referee has decided.

This will probably mean that some decisions are still wrong when the likes of MOTD and Sky have hours to study it from 72 different camera angles - thats absolutely fine as it will still mean that a lot more decisions will be right than they are today.

For both the Arsenal goals this year, the shirt pull on Keane v Swansea, the clear penalty on JBG in the first half away at Southampton etc then these would have been easy and quick to decide.

This premise that the right and wrong decisions cancelling themselves out over a season is absolutely rubbish and plainly just factually incorrect.

The point above comparing it to Rugby is not trying to say that the 2 sports are similar - clearly they are not. What is similar is the "scenario" - i.e. sometimes the award of a try or a goal is a difficult decision for the officials to make and not one they always get right....so let someone else have another look to see if they did. Sometimes what looks a very easy decision is still wrong....even worse and unfair but very easy and quick to remedy.

Saying this changes the fabric of the game is also nonsense - its moving with the times, using technology and reflecting the fact that these mistakes can now cost clubs hundreds of millions of pounds.

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