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REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:56 pm
by ClaretTony
Match report - Burnley v Lincoln - earlier than usual but just wanted to get it out of the way.

See link
http://www.uptheclarets.com/history-mak ... ng-reasons

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:04 pm
by CleggHall
Well said Tony "you hated it" and many, me included, agree with you. Good to get it (the match report) off your chest, today will always be a low point for Burnley supporters. How we missed our 1st choice fullbacks?

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:31 pm
by Harrygate
Irrespective of the quickness, a well balanced report from CT as usual.

I also agree with Clegghall that we really missed Lowton and Ward because without them we lacked any width. But I also get why Dyche left them out. They are indispensable in our remaining Premier League games.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:35 pm
by Vintage Claret
CleggHall wrote:Well said Tony "you hated it" and many, me included, agree with you. Good to get it (the match report) off your chest, today will always be a low point for Burnley supporters. How we missed our 1st choice fullbacks?


Indeed. Thought Darikwa did ok to be honest but cannot believe for a second Lincolns right winger would have had so much joy down that side with Wardy in rather than Flanagan, especially as he offered zero threat going forward.

Surprising selection for me considering how poor Flanagan was against Bristol in the previous round.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:44 pm
by Claretforever
The full back choices were obvious, given the previous rounds and the opposition today, but it's clear they don't fit into our style of play properly. The stats show that we dominated them, but that's not the full story, and being brutally honest they dominated us all over the park today in terms of determination to win every ball. Very unlike Burnley, which was why it was so frustrating to watch.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:14 pm
by Silkyskills1
Like you,CT, I'm in my mid-60's and really thought I'd seen it all regarding our club. How things can change in just six days.Praise and adulation replaced by scorn and humiliation. The odds on seeing my club in a Wembley Cup Final lengthening yet again. Looking for a reaction next week ............ like we did in 1975.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:33 pm
by Frenchclaret
Three points missing from your report TC.
The corner they scored from was not a corner - it came off their player in the air.
Secondly, the centre half to the left of the goal who headed the ball back for his partner to score was "lost" by Tarkowski and left totally unmarked. Furthermore Flanagan, on the post, advanced then retreated and in doing so couldn't jump to clear the header but only impeded Heaton who had to go behind him. No fault to Tom, but Flanagan and Tarkowski (and the referee) have to do better than that in the final minutes of a game.
However, the last thing we needed was a replay - we may eventually look upon this as a blessing!

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:51 pm
by JohnDearyMe
A day that will live in infamy...dear oh dear

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:25 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
I also remember too clearly the defeat to Wimbledon and this always seemed to me the start of the great demise for the club. We must never let happen again, put this behind us and get behind the club.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:34 pm
by Silkyskills1
Cirrus_Minor wrote:I also remember too clearly the defeat to Wimbledon and this always seemed to me the start of the great demise for the club. We must never let happen again, put this behind us and get behind the club.
Not too sure about 'a great 'demise'. Went down to Coventry in March that year and we won 3-0. Arsenal played Everton the same day and anything but a win for for Everton would have seen us go top. Different story the following season.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:34 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Agree entirely with that report, the only thing I would add is the ball coming off the Lincoln players hand for the crucial 2nd corner.

Resting players is fine if the ones coming in are good enough, but those two full backs are not. Certainly not the right footed Flanagan on the left, taking away all our width when we have a wide man Arfield who likes to tuck in and is also right footed. A bit different to what he did for Liverpool.

I remain convinced only Barton and two or three others wanted to win that game as much as a league game, which hurts me, and the manager wanting is less too hurts me even more. But not as much as it will if we lose Ward and Lowton for a month or two now we have a clear view what would replace them. That thought makes me shiver.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:45 am
by ClaretTony
Frenchclaret wrote:Three points missing from your report TC.
The corner they scored from was not a corner - it came off their player in the air.
Secondly, the centre half to the left of the goal who headed the ball back for his partner to score was "lost" by Tarkowski and left totally unmarked. Furthermore Flanagan, on the post, advanced then retreated and in doing so couldn't jump to clear the header but only impeded Heaton who had to go behind him. No fault to Tom, but Flanagan and Tarkowski (and the referee) have to do better than that in the final minutes of a game.
However, the last thing we needed was a replay - we may eventually look upon this as a blessing!
I'd rather have had a replay than going out.

Not sure my report has missed that - would have been impossible to see the handball from where I was and there had been no footage of it at the time of the report. I don't think Flanagan did impede Heaton; I did think it was poor goalkeeping though.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:15 am
by ashtonlongsider
Thanks for the article CT and special thanks for emphasising how much you wanted to be in the 6th round just like me. It really did matter unlike what some posters on here feel.
I got a feeling of 'deja vu' around the 75th minute. I told my wife I was getting anxious. She said I know I don't fancy a mid week trip to Sincil Bank, to which I responded I was fearing something worse. Then my foreboding became a reality. It still hurts and it will hurt for a long time yet. I just hope we can get over the line in the PL and then that might just 'temper' this latest adversity.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:32 am
by edlass
I really wanted it too.

This one has hit me harder than any other match in recent times. Even the Arsenals this season. I'm not even sure why either.

I cheered when we drew Lincoln in the cup, it was exactly what I wanted.....

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:56 am
by 9thMay1987
Bloke on the bus home was in the depth of despair and anger claiming "the seasons over, total rubbish Burnley".

The seasons not over 17th or upwards will be a total success.

I for one will take Saturday on the chin, rather than a midweek trip to Lincoln, with the potential for more injuries, in the midst of fixtures at Hull and Swansea.

Re: REPORT: History making Clarets but for all the wrong reasons

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:10 pm
by JarrowClaret
At least it's history and were in it we have more years we can win it its not a once in a lifetime thing