8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:52 pm
Will take that.
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Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:55 pm
This was the game that convinced me that we aren't going to win away this season.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:56 pm
Doesn't matter.
We're perfectly safe.
We're perfectly safe.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:29 pm
Magic numbers must have improved.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:36 pm
in a way its quite reassuring that we dont win away. IT would spoil the symetry of our season if we did.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:42 pm
Two very bad teams battling it out today we need to get qaulity in at the end of the season and ship a lot out
We looked jaded and out of ideas in that second half Arfield is shocking at putting dead balls in everyone a wast.
We need to get Defour in and quick
We looked jaded and out of ideas in that second half Arfield is shocking at putting dead balls in everyone a wast.
We need to get Defour in and quick
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:43 pm
Just think of glory that beckons next year when we do start winning away?
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:40 pm
The gap was 8 points 9 games ago! 
It's not budging is it?
It's not budging is it?
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:41 pm
I can't help being a pessimist. Sorry. But at worst case scenario we're 4 points clear.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:42 pm
The bottom 5 are the choice of who will go down.
Hull and boro wont win many. Sunderland already gone 4 me
Hull and boro wont win many. Sunderland already gone 4 me
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:43 pm
And you wouldn't take that?john'sroseyspecs wrote:But at worst case scenario we're 4 points clear.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:50 pm
Yes I would! Fair point, i just can't relax until I see next year's fixtures released and I can see in black and white that we've actually bloody done itElectroClaret wrote:And you wouldn't take that?
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:53 pm
Deep breaths.
Pour a large G and T.
Pull up a comfy chair.
Relax. Book a holiday.
We're perfectly safe.
Pour a large G and T.
Pull up a comfy chair.
Relax. Book a holiday.
We're perfectly safe.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:57 pm
Thanks for that! Starting now
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:58 pm
Bournemouth 2 up against Swanseea
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:03 pm
Vegas Claret wrote:Bournemouth 2 up against Swanseea
Swansea aren't out of it either!
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:04 pm
What I want is for us to be more points clear than we have games remaining. If we can hit that, then I reckon we'll stay up. Until then, we're still involved.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:08 pm
It's three of six - Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Hull, Swansea, Palace and Bournemouth and has been for a while, was seven but then Leicester sorted their act out.
Burnley are in fairly poor form but it'll take about three teams below us to have completely extraordinary runs to relegate us. One? Probably. Two? Doubt it. Three? Nah mate.
Burnley are in fairly poor form but it'll take about three teams below us to have completely extraordinary runs to relegate us. One? Probably. Two? Doubt it. Three? Nah mate.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:10 pm
We're on 32 points and that won't keep us up, regardless. I said a few months ago that I reckoned 35 would keep us up (just) and I still reckon that's what we'll need. 3 points from the remaining 9 games.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:11 pm
And we'll never manage that with our current record of over a point per game.FactualFrank wrote:We're on 32 points and that won't keep us up, regardless. I said a few months ago that I reckoned 35 would keep us up (just) and I still reckon that's what we'll need. 3 points from the remaining 9 games.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:12 pm
Well we've just got 3 out of the last 6!FactualFrank wrote:We're on 32 points and that won't keep us up, regardless. I said a few months ago that I reckoned 35 would keep us up (just) and I still reckon that's what we'll need. 3 points from the remaining 9 games.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:12 pm
Frank's a worrier. 
Chill, Frank.We're golden.
Not the slightest chance of us going down.
Chill, Frank.We're golden.
Not the slightest chance of us going down.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:12 pm
Who on the planet's said 32 points is enough? We'll get more than 32 points. We'll get close to forty. And - I know it's an unorthodox opinion - but I couldn't care less if they come from home games or away games.FactualFrank wrote:We're on 32 points and that won't keep us up, regardless. I said a few months ago that I reckoned 35 would keep us up (just) and I still reckon that's what we'll need. 3 points from the remaining 9 games.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:14 pm
If you think we're going down you're mental.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:16 pm
I've said it before and I'll say it again...if the bottom 3 continue on the same points trajectory that they have up to this point then we won't need to pick up another point. 1 more win will practically guarantee it.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:19 pm
None of Hull, Sunderland or Boro will catch us.
Not a chance.
Not a chance.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:19 pm
I agree. We need one win but we'll get more.Rileybobs wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...if the bottom 3 continue on the same points trajectory that they have up to this point then we won't need to pick up another point. 1 more win will practically guarantee it.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:08 am
If you had offered me an eight point cushion over the bottom 3 before our run of 4 away games I would have bitten your hand off.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:17 am
HelloHiGoodbye wrote:Who on the planet's said 32 points is enough?
Rileybobs wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...if the bottom 3 continue on the same points trajectory that they have up to this point then we won't need to pick up another point.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:32 am
bad maths site this, getting trounced by spurs , then a surge in fortunes by the lower teams,and with 8 remaining after that could make things difficult.
Forget the magic numbers, we need immediate points ASAP.
Forget the magic numbers, we need immediate points ASAP.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:47 am
8 clear but Boro have two games in hand right now. *Potentially* could be 5 points (Swansea).
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:00 am
We've picked up 3 points in our last 6 games of which 5 have been
away and the one home game was against top of the league so it hasn't been
too bad but not exactly convincing.
We haven't been pasted in any of the last 6 and given a reasonable account of ourselves in most
of those games albeit we haven't really looked as if we could win any of them.
However, 3 points from 18 is relegation form in most people's book.
Our next 6 games aren't exactly easy but I'd like to think we'll be able to manage
at least another 3 points - given 3 of them are at home.
If we don't then we might have to hope that none of the bottom three (probably Hull the most likely
but we can't at present discount Boro') putting together 2 or three wins in their next 6 games
and getting much closer to us. Possibly within 2 or 3 points.
If we're still 4 or 5 points ahead with three games to go then we should make it
with points to spare and most folk will be thinking we're safe.
We'll have 2 of our last three games at home to the Baggies and West Ham.
Most folk think we're safe now and the gap hasn't decreased much, if at all
over the last 6 games but clearly Palace and Swansea have had decent runs
over the last six and got a decent number of points and are out of the bottom 3/4.
Both with new managers. Hull have picked up 7 points in their last 6 games and they've still got West Ham,
Boro, Watford and Sunderland to play at home. They'll have to pick up at least 2, if not 3 wins from those 4
to stand much of a chance. I certainly wouldn't bet a great deal against them not doing that.
So, for me the sooner we get our next win and three points the better.
away and the one home game was against top of the league so it hasn't been
too bad but not exactly convincing.
We haven't been pasted in any of the last 6 and given a reasonable account of ourselves in most
of those games albeit we haven't really looked as if we could win any of them.
However, 3 points from 18 is relegation form in most people's book.
Our next 6 games aren't exactly easy but I'd like to think we'll be able to manage
at least another 3 points - given 3 of them are at home.
If we don't then we might have to hope that none of the bottom three (probably Hull the most likely
but we can't at present discount Boro') putting together 2 or three wins in their next 6 games
and getting much closer to us. Possibly within 2 or 3 points.
If we're still 4 or 5 points ahead with three games to go then we should make it
with points to spare and most folk will be thinking we're safe.
We'll have 2 of our last three games at home to the Baggies and West Ham.
Most folk think we're safe now and the gap hasn't decreased much, if at all
over the last 6 games but clearly Palace and Swansea have had decent runs
over the last six and got a decent number of points and are out of the bottom 3/4.
Both with new managers. Hull have picked up 7 points in their last 6 games and they've still got West Ham,
Boro, Watford and Sunderland to play at home. They'll have to pick up at least 2, if not 3 wins from those 4
to stand much of a chance. I certainly wouldn't bet a great deal against them not doing that.
So, for me the sooner we get our next win and three points the better.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:17 am
Apart from the licoln game, we should have been on a high after the last proper match when we drew with Chelsea, only one other team has managed theraat.Instead, we have been floundering around and looking decidedly dull. We lack in every department at the moment, that in itself is worrying. We appear to be no better looking than sunderland, which is poor form indeed.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:17 am
Thats the disapponting thing. It should have increased having played 3 of the bottom 5 away.Spijed wrote:The gap was 8 points 9 games ago!
It's not budging is it?
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:18 am
If you had offered 2 points from our last 4 away games i would have been gutted. We should have got at least double that.1968claret wrote:If you had offered me an eight point cushion over the bottom 3 before our run of 4 away games I would have bitten your hand off.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:20 am
I feel that the Lincoln result definitely impacted our overall form. It was a crazy result which made no sense whatsoever. And I think it knackered us a bit in terms of confidence. I do believe had we won that 1-0 we'd now have more points in the league. But it happens; what can you do.
We still have enough though to get us over the line.
We still have enough though to get us over the line.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:40 am
Maybe so, but clubs at the lower end can generally raise their game with relegation looming.cricketfieldclarets wrote:Thats the disapponting thing. It should have increased having played 3 of the bottom 5 away.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:19 am
A point a game is a hell of a lot to make up, especially when your form is shite.
I can see us hopefully, finishing where we are now. The performances lately, bar that final pass, have been excellent. Far too good not to be able to pick up at least another 3 wins, even a win away.
It's a tough call for the bottom 3.
Sunderlands football yesterday was shocking. I knew they were bottom of the league but it was easy to see why. They will never get out of it.
Hull's little jump has hit the skids, and they never seem to have any luck to boot.
Boro today is a biggy. United are struggling for strikers, and you don't know how they are going to react to Karwanka going. If Boro lose, it could be their demise as well, they still have a horrible run in.
Swansea should be safe, but their mini jump seems to have come back to earth.
Leicester are still the luckiest team in the league. How often they can get steam roller and still come up with a win is unbelievable.
Palace can still sneak wins against the poorer opposition, but they to have a poor run in.
To summarise: Not only would we have to be **** to go down, which we're not, we would have to be **** and very, very unlucky.
I can see us hopefully, finishing where we are now. The performances lately, bar that final pass, have been excellent. Far too good not to be able to pick up at least another 3 wins, even a win away.
It's a tough call for the bottom 3.
Sunderlands football yesterday was shocking. I knew they were bottom of the league but it was easy to see why. They will never get out of it.
Hull's little jump has hit the skids, and they never seem to have any luck to boot.
Boro today is a biggy. United are struggling for strikers, and you don't know how they are going to react to Karwanka going. If Boro lose, it could be their demise as well, they still have a horrible run in.
Swansea should be safe, but their mini jump seems to have come back to earth.
Leicester are still the luckiest team in the league. How often they can get steam roller and still come up with a win is unbelievable.
Palace can still sneak wins against the poorer opposition, but they to have a poor run in.
To summarise: Not only would we have to be **** to go down, which we're not, we would have to be **** and very, very unlucky.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:50 am
If we go down it will probably be down to NOT strengthening our starting 11 from last years Championship side. Only one change and that was forced - Hendrick for Marney.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:54 am
Conversely if we stay up, which seems most likely, retaining our core and continuity from last season will be cited, along with Dyche's abilities, as one of the biggest reasons for that success.Fireguard wrote:If we go down it will probably be down to NOT strengthening our starting 11 from last years Championship side. Only one change and that was forced - Hendrick for Marney.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:58 am
Yes. Of course.taio wrote:Conversely if we stay up, which seems most likely, retaining our core and continuity from last season will be cited, along with Dyche's abilities, as one of the biggest reasons for that success.
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:44 pm
Playing for a nil nil in our last 4 away games might keep us up afterall 
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:45 pm
We are 19th in the form table.
The recent run of away games hasn't helped.
But if we don't turn our form around it could still be a nervy last day.
Plenty of difficult home games still to come
Spurs, Stoke, Man U, WBA,WHU
The recent run of away games hasn't helped.
But if we don't turn our form around it could still be a nervy last day.
Plenty of difficult home games still to come
Spurs, Stoke, Man U, WBA,WHU
Re: 8 clear with 9 to play
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:50 pm
If we continue our poor form (3 points in last 6 games) then we will survive comfortably. And when you consider 5 of our last 6 games have been away it's hard to imagine our next 6 games will result in such a small yield.Roosterbooster wrote:We are 19th in the form table.
The recent run of away games hasn't helped.
But if we don't turn our form around it could still be a nervy last day.
Plenty of difficult home games still to come
Spurs, Stoke, Man U, WBA,WHU