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Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:01 pm
by mikeS
Anyone know the last time trams ran past Turf Moor?
This photo shows that there was a branch line into the Cricket ground.
Fascinating pic.
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Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:18 pm
by ElectroClaret
That's CT in the trilby! :D

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:36 pm
by normandeeley
There's an article by a Dr. Michael Harrison, 'A Brief History of Transport' which says the line past the Turf was laid in 1926 (presumably the subject of the photo). The article goes on to say that it was short lived as the last tram to Towneley and Brunshaw was October 1934. Last tram in Burnley apparently was 1935.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:03 pm
by Dyched
Is that still the same flag?

Wonderful photograph.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:13 pm
by Burnley_Mark
Imagine them doing this sort of work now. Everything would be cordoned off, there would have to be temporary traffic lights that kept you waiting for far too long, and someone would of run off with that wheelbarrow as soon as someone's back was turned.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:19 pm
by ClaretTony
I knew I'd seen this pic before - posted on another message board a couple of years ago - and no Electroclaret, it's not me. :D
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Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:22 pm
by ClaretTony
Couple more here which I believe were taken at the same time. Both are of the traffic light corner, one from outside the cricket ground and one from inside.
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Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:09 pm
by ElectroClaret
Wasn't the Cricketers pub just round that corner on the right?
Or was it the next corner down?

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:18 pm
by BFCBaz
Thanks Tony.
That brought back memories. My dad used to work that turnstile on matchdays and he would send me round the ground selling penny scorecards.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:34 pm
by Bfc
Under the letter s of the sign (Parkinson's) you can see the outline of stone mileage sign, which was recovered and then built into present wall.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm
by longsidetrumpet
ElectroClaret wrote:Wasn't the Cricketers pub just round that corner on the right?
Or was it the next corner down?
If you mean round the corner from where the shop is, you're right. The Cricketers was at 53 Anne Street and until it closed it was the 'media' centre, in the days when that meant strictly The Press. It was such s centre because the pub allowed the press lads to phone their after-match pieces to their respective papers from the pub's phone.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:11 pm
by BFCBaz
look closely at the backs of the benches: they're old school desktops. the groove running near the top is a pen rest and there are five holes in each, which would have held the inkwells. A piece of local history.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:16 pm
by hampsteadclaret
a slight detour, if you don't mind - those pictures of the straight line tram tracks, the buildings, the men's clothing and the greyness remind me of this excellent video which shows San Francisco 111 years ago, one year before the famous earthquake..one of my favourite pieces from YT..

- as some one describes....'I am voting this my favourite clip i have seen on you-tube so far.......i view it every day.
the old horse and carts mixing it with the new technology automobiles.....how there seems to be no road rules and yet no crashes....how close the cars pass in front of the tram without really knowing what is on the other side....how people stop in the middle of the street to look at the camera.....the young paper boys....the one that plays with the tram....the dude on the white horse......the keystone cop with his truncheon.....the horse and cart with the guy in a big coat that dawdles in front of the tram......the lady getting on the tram......the 5 men in their new auto going out for a drive.......and the young kids who hang on to the back of their car.....how the music fits in so well with the pictures......THANKYOU!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NINOxRxze9k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:31 pm
by bfcmik
mikeS wrote:This photo shows that there was a branch line into the Cricket ground.
That isn't a branch into the cricket ground. It was double track (presumably they needed to finish one side before digging up the other side too) and headed off up Brunshaw Rd to Worsthorne. The points are for a turn-back so trams could just go from the town centre to Turf Moor and return.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:46 pm
by No Ney Never
Is it me or do there appear to be ghosts on the pavement?

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:02 pm
by mikeS
Nothing wrong with your eyes NNN, blurryness is people moving as photo was taken.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:23 pm
by Bfc
Re the Cricketers, it wasn't just the press who used the pub on match days. 2 Burnley players Mather and Atwell did pop in for a drink before some games. Joe one of, if not the last landlord there then took over the other Cricketers pub on Lowerhouse Lane. Ashpelted into the floor surface of Anne St pub was a 2 shilling coin (10p) which I think every kid in the area tried to remove at some time.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:43 pm
by No Ney Never
I can't help but feel it would be a fantastic attraction to have trams running once again, certain routes in the Burnley area. The lines are still there under the tarmac in many areas. Given how the technology for electric cars has advanced, maybe this could be achieved without the need for overhead lines.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:48 pm
by Buxtonclaret
hampsteadclaret wrote:a slight detour, if you don't mind - those pictures of the straight line tram tracks, the buildings, the men's clothing and the greyness remind me of this excellent video which shows San Francisco 111 years ago, one year before the famous earthquake..one of my favourite pieces from YT..

- as some one describes....'I am voting this my favourite clip i have seen on you-tube so far.......i view it every day.
the old horse and carts mixing it with the new technology automobiles.....how there seems to be no road rules and yet no crashes....how close the cars pass in front of the tram without really knowing what is on the other side....how people stop in the middle of the street to look at the camera.....the young paper boys....the one that plays with the tram....the dude on the white horse......the keystone cop with his truncheon.....the horse and cart with the guy in a big coat that dawdles in front of the tram......the lady getting on the tram......the 5 men in their new auto going out for a drive.......and the young kids who hang on to the back of their car.....how the music fits in so well with the pictures......THANKYOU!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NINOxRxze9k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's a great video, Hamps.
I downloaded it early last year from a site other than YouTube.
It's better quality too..

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:01 pm
by FCBurnley
ClaretTony wrote:Couple more here which I believe were taken at the same time. Both are of the traffic light corner, one from outside the cricket ground and one from inside.
oldburnley5.jpg
oldburnley4.jpg
Great pics. I used that Cricket Ground entrance on many many occasions. Fulledge was a great place to live as a kid. Access to Townley Park, Fulledge Rec and Turf Moor for both cricket and football and all within walking distance. Thanks for posting pics.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:29 pm
by hampsteadclaret
- nice one Buxton...an atmospheric video for sure - as someone comments, everyone there is now dead and most of the other physical stuff has gone as well...enjoy it while you can, we're not here for long.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:41 pm
by ClaretTony
Just realised that the photo was taken on a match day. That was the only time the flag flew other than at half mast following the death of anyone connected to the club.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:05 pm
by ontario claret
What's a "Twink"? They're trying to sell something with that poster on the building to the right.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:08 pm
by ontario claret
Looks like something from the Moulin Rouge. Might be the first and last time Burnley and Paris were ever confused with each other.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:28 pm
by GordonvaleClaret
Bfc wrote:Under the letter s of the sign (Parkinson's) you can see the outline of stone mileage sign, which was recovered and then built into present wall.
"stone mileage sign" is an Americanism for "milestone"

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:37 am
by Bfc
The flag mast is shown flying at the corner of the stand and from memory in my early lifetime, it was in the middle of the same stand. I recall the light blue 59/60 League Champions flag flying all the season after. Sadly it had started to tear and looked the worse for wear. Does anyone know what happened to it ?.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:54 am
by Corky
I must say that the old stand even from a distance looks much grander and more imposing than the existing BLS. Shame they knocked it down.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:51 am
by Roger Mellie
ontario claret wrote:What's a "Twink"? They're trying to sell something with that poster on the building to the right.
A soap powder of the day I believe.. From the makers of Lux, don't you know...

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:06 pm
by ClaretTony
Here's another view from the traffic light corner
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Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:07 pm
by ontario claret
Lux I know. We used to have it over here. (Just like Pond's Cold Cream.)

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:09 pm
by ontario claret
I think the old Brunshaw Road stand HAD to be torn down, just before it collapsed. Something about twisted girders. If you anything about engineering, you know that that's not good.

Re: Last Tram to Turf Moor

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:32 pm
by holycustard
Was dr Who a Burnley fan i can see his Tardis in the last pic. :-D