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Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:22 pm
by MDWat
We've been blessed with some great times since 2000, but what's your worst XI from then to now?

One rule - must have started at least one game.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:42 pm
by Claretmatt4
Diego Penny in goal

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:50 pm
by NL Claret
Andre Bikey
Brian Stock
Dane Richards
Paul Gascoigne
Dele Adelbola

for starters

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:54 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Roche and Easton as full backs.

Van Der Melt as the invisible midfielder.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:54 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Bikey was decent at times. He was immense against man utd.

Neil wood.
Richard eckersley.
Leon cort.
Dane Richards.
Jutkiewicz for his goal return alone has to feature. Done well elsewhere but awful for us.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:59 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
I forgot about Eckersley.

Another one of Owen's. Thanks Owen.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:00 pm
by NL Claret
Wayne Thomas
Fred Nimani

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Graham Branch in central defence.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm
by Claretmatt4
Delfouneso was quite terrible.

Must be ore from early 2000s.

Paul McVeigh wasn't very good.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm
by Claretmatt4
TheFamilyCat wrote:Graham Branch in central defence.
Get out

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:08 pm
by ClaretMoffitt
Stephen Jordan
Stephen Jordan
Stephen Jordan
Stephen Jordan

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:16 pm
by KRBFC
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Bikey was decent at times. He was immense against man utd.

Neil wood.
Richard eckersley.
Leon cort.
Dane Richards.
Jutkiewicz for his goal return alone has to feature. Done well elsewhere but awful for us.
Didn't Wood score on his debut against Norwich I think

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:47 pm
by Dark Cloud
Stephen Jordan, whilst not in anybody's best XI, should no way be in the worst. Same goes for Bikey. Now Fred Nimani...I was there at Bolton and he really was dogger! (same goes for Dane Richards too)

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:52 pm
by Fretters
Claretmatt4 wrote:Delfouneso was quite terrible.

Must be ore from early 2000s.

Paul McVeigh wasn't very good.
I hoped we'd sign McVeigh at the time. He helped us break the 19 game winless run and stay up.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:53 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Sanakho, I think he was called,was awful. I think he tricked Cotterill.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:02 pm
by LAM
Duane Courtney. A player completely out of his depth.

I know he got a good hat-trick, but Gifton Noel Williams was terrible.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:09 pm
by whentheballmoves
Cennamo
Sanokho
Guerrero

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:09 pm
by whentheballmoves
Oops. Cennamo didn't start a game...did the other two?! LOL

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:10 pm
by tim_noone
Claretmatt4 wrote:Delfouneso was quite terrible.

Must be ore from early 2000s.

Paul McVeigh wasn't very good.
Scored a winning goal against hull away! Delfounso not on my list. Possibly a cudda wudda type off player and who knows what any of your worst x1would have achieved under sd. Its all about timing maybe.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:13 pm
by Belial
Steve Jones. Just for the ginger spice boy hair

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:13 pm
by Quicknick
Jordan was a good player.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:14 pm
by Quicknick
That pale-faced, skinny winger we got from Manure. Forgot his name.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:30 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
McQuoid

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:31 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Quicknick wrote:That pale-faced, skinny winger we got from Manure. Forgot his name.
Chadwick. He actually did ok at times. Just wasnt as much as we expected as a united loanee.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:33 pm
by EarbyClaret
Cameron Stewart
Zavon Hines

not sure if he ever played - George Porter?

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:58 pm
by MDWat
Bin Ont Turf wrote:Roche and Easton as full backs.

Van Der Melt as the invisible midfielder.
Totally forgot about van der Schaff but they were the two full backs we went straight for when discussing it.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:01 pm
by MDWat
Penny
Roche McGregor Branch Easton
Bermingham Randall Wood Stewart
Bowditch Ricketts

That would get rubbed 10-0 every week in the Championship these days but they've all represented us at that level. Jesus.

As for Jordan - behave!

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:14 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
MDWat wrote:Totally forgot about van der Schaff but they were the two full backs we went straight for when discussing it.

I hope you lads are also discussing some positive things at Jacob's Well. :)

Any temptation to put Boyd in there? :D

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:15 pm
by ClaretMoffitt
Its an unpopular opinion of mine, always has been.

But I can't remember a left back that ever made me feel less confident in the last 10 years of watching us. He had at least one massive error in him per game.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:20 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
ClaretMoffitt wrote:Its an unpopular opinion of mine, always has been.

But I can't remember a left back that ever made me feel less confident in the last 10 years of watching us. He had at least one massive error in him per game.

Since 2000 and not the last 10 years though Moffitt.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:33 pm
by Spiral
Dane Richards never actually started a game, IIRC. Came on as a sub twice and just wandered around for a bit. Got hooked off after initially being subbed on as 'Marvin Bartley', if I'm not mistaken.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:37 pm
by ClaretMoffitt
Bin Ont Turf wrote:Since 2000 and not the last 10 years though Moffitt.
I was too young to really remember prior to that :oops: :oops: Two or 3 years give or take.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:38 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Jordan in his first year or so would be close.

He was alright after that.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:52 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
ClaretMoffitt wrote:I was too young to really remember prior to that :oops: :oops: Two or 3 years give or take.

Fair enough.

However Easton came after Jordan and you still picked Jordan. :o

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:36 pm
by Herts Clarets
Didn't Cennamo play in the cup defeat at Cheltenham?

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:39 pm
by duncandisorderly
Jordan had some great 9/10 performances; he was superb against Arsenal at home for instance.
He also had plenty of 4/10's.

We've actually done alright since promotion in 2000 in terms of crap players - if you discount loan players then you'd be hard pressed to find properly crap. We've had a truck load of non entities, and plenty of crap periods (Steve Cotterill, mainly) but the year 1999 onwards has been nothing but an upward curve.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:55 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
duncandisorderly wrote:Jordan had some great 9/10 performances; he was superb against Arsenal at home for instance.
He also had plenty of 4/10's.

We've actually done alright since promotion in 2000 in terms of crap players - if you discount loan players then you'd be hard pressed to find properly crap. We've had a truck load of non entities, and plenty of crap periods (Steve Cotterill, mainly) but the year 1999 onwards has been nothing but an upward curve.

It may have been a crap period (debatable on how crap) under Cotterill but he brought some very decent players to Burnley.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:57 pm
by duncandisorderly
Since the year 2000, Steve Cotterill's tenure as manager is a notable nadir.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:10 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Its an old debate that will never be settled. But Cotterill was very good for us and without him we wouldnt be where we are now.

Played his own part in our recent success. Every bit as important in his own way as any manager we have had since Casper.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:10 pm
by ontario claret
Did George Weah's cousin ever play for us?

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:11 pm
by ontario claret
Yes, you're quite right, cricketfields. Cotterill should never be slagged.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:19 am
by Top Claret
Quicknick wrote:Jordan was a good player.
Jordan must have been one of if the worst, if not the worst ever full back to play in the Premier League. Jordan was not even up to League 1 standard.

Never forget his performance at West Ham. He was so slow in mind and body, he kept playing West Ham on side

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:20 am
by claretdom
Jordan looked like Maldini when compared to Easton

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:25 am
by Top Claret
claretdom wrote:Jordan looked like Maldini when compared to Easton
Forgot all about him. Another bad un to throw into the mix

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:30 am
by NottsClaret
If anyone suggests Jordan was worse than Easton they should find something else to do on Saturdays.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:58 am
by ablueclaret
Easton was a classic case of the wrong mentality allied to a peculiar physique, he just didn't look a footballer, but he has had a decent career in Scotland with ST Johnstone which suggests he wasn't quite as bad as some would suggest.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:59 am
by claretdom
ablueclaret wrote:Easton was a classic case of the wrong mentality allied to a peculiar physique, he just didn't look a footballer, but he has had a decent career in Scotland with ST Johnstone which suggests he wasn't quite as bad as some would suggest.

Scotland is also the market you think we should be signing our 1st team players from, maybe you should think about that when typing your nonsense on players. He was gash then and he gash now.

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:03 am
by ablueclaret
Never mentioned first team players but yes it is a market we should pay attention too, your Scottish bias so great you think there are no good players in Scotland?

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:08 am
by claretdom
If we were in league 1 it may be worthwhile. Do I have a Welsh bias for thinking we shouldn't be looking there or an Irish one too ?

It is an awful standard, look at some of the top performers in the league Stokes, Waghorn, Griffiths, Brown etc dross some who would and have struggled in the championship. Even Brendan Rodgers is winning a league there

Re: Worst XI since 2000

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:25 am
by JohnMac
Stephen Jordan?

The same player who was never given the luxury of having the midfield track back and cover his side of the pitch?

If he had played with George Boyd in front of him he wouldn't have atrracted the attention of the 'boo boys'.