Heaton

Lawton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Barton Hendrick Brady
--------Barnes Gray --------

Brady in for Defour and Barnes back in for Vokes from the start.

Brady looked a lot better when he came on and i'm looking forward to seeing our Irish contingent down that flank tomorrow. Hopefully Hendrick can carry the ball more than he usually does which should tear apart their usually decent defence.

Barnes should cause massive problems for them and is the best big man to start with for me too. Barton seems to be off his game a little but got a feeling we'll see a masterpiece from him tomorrow after last seasons Boro antics.

First away win coming up with a 4-1 win. Midfield will be running riot I think.

Given Defour is out this is a strong attacking lineup.

Coyc

Lowton is being named Lawton in team news til we lose due to the last posts typo and us winning

Vokes is very poor as a sub, he rarely gets into the game.Barnes is an excellent sub, he picks the pace of the game up immediately and knows his job.
Barnes is also likely to see a red at any time.
Vokes to start, Barnes after 60mins.
2 changes: ANOther for Defour and we win.

Claretmatt4 wrote:Given Defour is out this is a strong attacking lineup.

Coyc

Hopefully it pays off as their lack of prowess up top could mean us being strangled a little elsewhere on the pitch and take us away from our natural game (WBA away and even Lincoln could be evidence of this).

minnieclaret wrote:Vokes is very poor as a sub, he rarely gets into the game.Barnes is an excellent sub, he picks the pace of the game up immediately and knows his job.
Barnes is also likely to see a red at any time.
Vokes to start, Barnes after 60mins.

I like to see Barnes coming on for 30 rather than starting. His game effects a tiring defence so much more than that Vokes offers in the later stages - even more so when he comes off the bench to terrorise weary defenders.

It probably goes without saying now that bfccrazy will have the team correct, but if we win 4-1 tomorrow, I will be really impressed !

minnieclaret wrote: Barnes is also likely to see a red at any time.

Likely to see a red at any time? So he's had two red cards in his time at Burnley, both for two yellows. I don't think that comes close to being likely to see a red at any time.

I cant believe you've put Brady on his preferred side...

You just know Dyche wont do that

I'd like to see Westwood in for Barton. Barton has looked poor for the past 2/3 games now. He looks knackered.

randomclaret2 wrote:It probably goes without saying now that bfccrazy will have the team correct, but if we win 4-1 tomorrow, I will be really impressed !

Team news is correct.

Score is open to debate

Went to WEst Spam and Watfor and expected us to get something. I feel tomorrow is the time. I think Brady will be key tomorrow. Finding his feet and he brings pace. I really believe our midfield will boss tomorrow. One niggling thorn in all of this optimism t is Negredo .

bfccrazy wrote:Team news is correct.

Score is open to debate

How come team line-ups are known the day before?

I always thought they'd be announced about two hours before kick-off.

Spijed wrote:How come team line-ups are known the day before?

I always thought they'd be announced about two hours before kick-off.

I've mentioned it before - team news are "announced" a couple of hours before kick off but is known earlier.

And if you know - you know.

Heaton

Lawton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Barton Hendrick Brady
--------Barnes Gray -

Happy with this
Love Vokes but Barnes is looking the sharper and Boro will hate him
UTC

BleedingClaret wrote:Heaton

Lawton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Barton Hendrick Brady
--------Barnes Gray -

Happy with this
Love Vokes but Barnes is looking the sharper and Boro will hate him
UTC

I'm not liking the huge gap between Heaton and defence though. That could invite some unwanted close offside calls.

FactualFrank wrote:I'm not liking the huge gap between Heaton and defence though. That could invite some unwanted close offside calls.

Theres still puddles in that bit of the pitch from Karankas tears. We know how dodgy Mees footing can be so I've kept him out of that area.

Seems a sensible enough team to me.

Still prefer Arfield to Boyd, especially away from home, because he helps us keep the ball better with more composure, but in fairness Boyd will rightly keep his place after the other night and Brady gives something different.

Barnes is imperfect but he's a much better combination of the target man Gray needs and the ballast Barton in particular needs in midfield (especially away from home) than Vokes.

claretspice wrote:Seems a sensible enough team to me.

Still prefer Arfield to Boyd, especially away from home, because he helps us keep the ball better with more composure, but in fairness Boyd will rightly keep his place after the other night and Brady gives something different.

Boyd seema to come alive during the run in - we should sit him on the bench for the 1st 3 quarters of every season and then let him loose .

I'm liking the match up of Brady against Barragan, i don't rate their right back at all, I'm sure Dyche may well switch our wide men from time to time as well as their left back will not be up to a whole lot either with Fabio and Friend missing.

Big chance for Gray to test Gibson as well tomorrow , he had a shocker at Hull and he needs pressing early doors.

Interesting how we deal with Traore tomorrow who is electric, hopefully his final ball will continue to be as woeful as usual, we may have problems if he's on his game.

Murger wrote:I'd like to see Westwood in for Barton. Barton has looked poor for the past 2/3 games now. He looks knackered.

Agree 100 percent

That said Barton has the big game experience and mentality. Westwood has a lot of top flight games, but I feel Joey will organise better especially alongside Hendrick and Brady.

Good to see Brady start. I am optimistic tomorrow about him. Just a real shame that JBG wont be involved.

I would be tempted to start Vokes as we seem to score more with him on and Barnes is better from the bench than vokes.

bfccrazy wrote:I've mentioned it before - team news are "announced" a couple of hours before kick off but is known earlier.

And if you know - you know.

Is releasing the team news, on a public messageboard and ahead of the day, a wise idea? Perhaps maintaining the apparent trust of your source would be better and there is a chance that the opposition could benefit from early knowledge?

On a side note - I nearly had a little cry when told "Heaton is out for the season after a training ground injury"

Followed by "NOTTTT ... JUST KIDDING!!"

Football shouldnt bring these emotions to a man

DCWat wrote:Is releasing the team news, on a public messageboard and ahead of the day, a wise idea? Perhaps maintaining the apparent trust of your source would be better and there is a chance that the opposition could benefit from early knowledge?

Great point -

I mentioned on the post midweek that we didnt pick up a win whilst I stopped doing this. I did it for the Stoke game and we won.

If it's helping the opposition then long may it continue.

bfccrazy wrote:Great point -

I mentioned on the post midweek that we didnt pick up a win whilst I stopped doing this. I did it for the Stoke game and we won.

If it's helping the opposition then long may it continue.

If it's a successful superstition, I'm all for it!

bodge wrote:I'm liking the match up of Brady against Barragan, i don't rate their right back at all, I'm sure Dyche may well switch our wide men from time to time as well as their left back will not be up to a whole lot either with Fabio and Friend missing.

Big chance for Gray to test Gibson as well tomorrow , he had a shocker at Hull and he needs pressing early doors.

Interesting how we deal with Traore tomorrow who is electric, hopefully his final ball will continue to be as woeful as usual, we may have problems if he's on his game.

Would think Gray in particular will be targetting the space inside and behind their left back and we'll need Barton and Lowton in particular to have their passing range tuned to make the most of it.

Traore will presumably be a test of Brady's tracking back and that might be one reason why we do switch wingers occasionally.

DCWat wrote:If it's a successful superstition, I'm all for it!

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... =2&t=15059

DCWat wrote:If it's a successful superstition, I'm all for it!

It's also one of the few threads that have some really good input from people about their views, dis/likes and preferences on the team ad how it could/nt work rather than breaking down into slanging matches and dick measuring contests.

I'm all for that too - far too much *********** on here at times

DCWat wrote:I'm all for that too - far too much *********** on here at times

I am secretly waiting for the day an opposition manager pops in his post match interview amd says "Well we knew exactly how they'd set up because some muppet posted it online last night"

When that day comes - I want royalties for traffic income CT .

Barton's influence on this team remains significant, whether he is at his best or not. Until we're mathematically safe he should start every game, assuming he remains available for selection. Westwood looks a decent enough long term successor but we'll need a leader in there tomorrow, it will be a much tougher game than some seem to be expecting. A dour 0-0 would be fine.

Big bad ashley who up until he got the 2 yellows had amongst the lowest in the team... round about what Boyd and Arfield had. Yeah. He's a liability!

DCWat wrote:Is releasing the team news, on a public messageboard and ahead of the day, a wise idea? Perhaps maintaining the apparent trust of your source would be better and there is a chance that the opposition could benefit from early knowledge?

Nobody has yet. We have only lost when he doesnt post it - perhaps they dont realise its a genuine team

Sensible team selection if true. Don't know why but Vokes has lost his 'mojo'.

1-1 draw for me. But Brady from the start might just give us our first away win.

Not much in it for me between starting Vokes or Barnes, but agree that there's more effect when Barnes comes on late second half.

Thing is if Brady starts then Barnes winning free kicks in good areas could be a game changing tactic.

Great point Lucs

bit worried about Atkinson reffing and Barnes starting after Hull...

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:bit worried about Atkinson reffing and Barnes starting after Hull...

Was a bit silly for Barnes to get involved for the initial yellow. Though I have found refs to be very wishy washy with punishing dissent.

He should be fine though as he usually calms down if on a yellow.

All toting up of yellows are rescinded after this weekend
But if your only one away from a ban and you get carded this weekend you serve your ban
none of our players are in this category

How come people know the team before or is it guesswork

clentclaret wrote:How come people know the team before or is it guesswork

I sit in the trees with my binoculars on all week up at Gawthorpe and evaluate how things are going during training.

ClaretTony wrote:Likely to see a red at any time? So he's had two red cards in his time at Burnley, both for two yellows. I don't think that comes close to being likely to see a red at any time.

I haven't seen yesterdays match yet but what did you think of his sneaky elbow I've been reading about.
In my opinion he's an over-robust player who uses everything he's got and never ducks a challenge. An over-zealous referee will one day have him off.

minnieclaret wrote:I haven't seen yesterdays match yet but what did you think of his sneaky elbow I've been reading about.
In my opinion he's an over-robust player who uses everything he's got and never ducks a challenge. An over-zealous referee will one day have him off.

Just mentioned that on another thread. Stupid at best.

Barnes is niggl y player and gives us an edge. That said the el ow was a bit uneccessary even though I don't think thee was much contact. I prefer him from the bench though to ruffle defenders when tired. The rest of the team are so honest with no diving and getting up quickly after being brought down we need a player like Barnes.

Charlie, how do you delete a player from your Expert 11 squad?