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Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:00 pm
by Steve1956
Today showed how threadbare we will be down the middle next season,Tarkowski was out of his depth playing just 45 minutes today....shocking.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:04 pm
by ClaretTony
Keane hasn't gone - Mee did get injured and Tarkowski got his first ever run out in defence in the Premier League.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:04 pm
by bobinho
No he wasn't.
That is all.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:04 pm
by taio
We'll sign at least one centre half in the summer. Mee will be back. Tarkowski shouldn't be judged from his 45 mins today.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:06 pm
by chorleyhere
Remember we were chasing the game at that point and the midfield had not been lively in the first half - don't just blame one player. Agree game time will help him settle in - Keane took a while to settle and has had some wobbles too this season.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:09 pm
by ashtonlongsider
Sorry I thought Tarks was one of two players to come out of that embarrassing one dimensional display with any credit. The other being, and I can't believe I'm saying this but Andre Gray. Mee's injury is a big blow he has certainly been our best defender all season although he isn't getting the same plaudits as his partner.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:11 pm
by KRBFC
Keane's the most overrated centre half iv ever seen. Good player for us but a top four club level centre half? Never in a million years. Ben Mee's a miles better defender.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:13 pm
by taio
KRBFC wrote:Keane's the most overrated centre half iv ever seen. Good player for us but a top four club level centre half? Never in a million years. Ben Mee's a miles better defender.
Can't have watched much football in your time then.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:16 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Apart from the OP wrongly stating Keane has gone,Mee is injured and Tarka is out of his depth I think they have everything spot on
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:17 pm
by Funkydrummer
Deliberate provocation.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:17 pm
by The Sofa Shifter
So if we lost out first choice pair of centre halves we'd be threadbare? No shite Sherlock.
Imagine if we lost Gray and Barnes, we'd be a bit light up front. And it's really not worth thinking about if we lost Ward and whoever our other left back is. OMG best sign 60 first choice players just to be safe.
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Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:18 pm
by Steve1956
I was just making an observation guys,I hate criticising our players,Tarkowski was out of his depth end of,I don't think even Ablueclaret would have creamed himself today on Tarks performance
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:19 pm
by ElectroClaret
As taio said we'll sign some more in the summer.
Stop worrying about nowt.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:19 pm
by Steve1956
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Apart from the OP wrongly stating Keane has gone,Mee is injured and Tarka is out of his depth I think they have everything spot on
Cheers,so taking Mee off was tactical then ?

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:20 pm
by ablueclaret
Tarkowski needs to move on to get game time, not really a framework player.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:20 pm
by fidelcastro
Steve1956 wrote:I was just making an observation guys,I hate criticising our players,Tarkowski was out of his depth end of,I don't think even Ablueclaret would have creamed himself today on Tarks performance
Why was he out of his depth?
How many goals did we concede with him on the pitch?

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:23 pm
by taio
Can't understand singling out Tarkowski from today. Woeful opening post.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:26 pm
by Steve1956
fidelcastro wrote:Why was he out of his depth?
How many goals did we concede with him on the pitch?

United had it sewn up by then....they won at a canter,that is the worst we have played at home all season.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:27 pm
by Steve1956
taio wrote:Can't understand singling out Tarkowski from today. Woeful opening post.
Why is it woeful from where I was stood he couldn't put a pass to a team mate even if he was stood next to him.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:30 pm
by boatshed bill
I hope we have serious competition at centre-back next season, that means signing or developing at least two central defenders if Keane leaves
Assuming we stay up of course.
I'm not too pleased with our lack of squad rotation.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:31 pm
by taio
Steve1956 wrote:Why is it woeful from where I was stood he couldn't put a pass to a team mate even if he was stood next to him.
What would you say if I told you his pass completion rate was better than Keane's, Lowton's and Ward's?
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:32 pm
by summitclaret
The only man to blame today was our manager. Ludicrous that Defour did not come on at half time to play in the middle. Clearly we won't see him again now. What a waste of talent and money.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:35 pm
by Steve1956
taio wrote:What would you say if I told you his pass completion rate was better than Keane's, Lowton's and Ward's?
Keane,Lowton And Ward are overrated ? Will that do?
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:37 pm
by taio
Yep it'll do - it confirms what I thought
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:38 pm
by Veals
Interesting view Steve, did Tarkowski do something specifically to make you think he's not up to standard in the premier league? I thought he brought the ball out from the back and distributed well. There were a couple of moments where he lost the ball, but he's had very little game time and united pressed us high up the pitch, which made it difficult.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:41 pm
by fidelcastro
Steve1956 wrote:Keane,Lowton And Ward are overrated ? Will that do?

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:41 pm
by dermotdermot
So is Mee injured or not?
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:55 pm
by Veals
summitclaret wrote:The only man to blame today was our manager. Ludicrous that Defour did not come on at half time to play in the middle. Clearly we won't see him again now. What a waste of talent and money.
I thought the game was crying out for Defour's quality on the ball in the second half, but Mourinho got the tactics spot on and they out-battled us. We would have needed to drop a striker and played a midfield 5 in order to make it work, which would have been counter-productive. I hope Dyche was just keeping his powder dry with Defour as it was unlikely we were going to come back from 0-2 down.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:08 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Steve1956 wrote:Cheers,so taking Mee off was tactical then ?

No,but the way you have phrased it in your op makes it appear that you believe the bullsh!t posted earlier that stated Mee was out for the season when in all likelihood he will start the next game
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:28 pm
by Steve1956
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:No,but the way you have phrased it in your op makes it appear that you believe the bullsh!t posted earlier that stated Mee was out for the season when in all likelihood he will start the next game
No I never saw such a post,next season if those two have both gone or one has gone and one is injured,we have no one currently good enough on our books to replace either,making relegation next season if not this one...inevitable .

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:30 pm
by Sidney1st
So does this mean we aren't shopping during close season and in the run up to the closure of the transfer window?
Bugger

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:32 pm
by fidelcastro
Steve1956 wrote:No I never saw such a post,next season if those two have both gone or one has gone and one is injured,we have no one currently good enough on our books to replace either,making relegation next season if not this one...inevitable .

If only there was such a thing as a transfer window in the summer.
Never mind, eh?

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:37 pm
by Steve1956
Sidney1st wrote:So does this mean we aren't shopping during close season and in the run up to the closure of the transfer window?
Bugger

We will never have a better pairing than Keane & Mee.the only way is down, if Brady is anything to go by, in a transfer window ....record signing and he's been absolutely shite apart from one free kick,how many millions are we going to **** against the wall in the summer..,frightening.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:38 pm
by Steve1956
fidelcastro wrote:If only there was such a thing as a transfer window in the summer.
Never mind, eh?

All those millions we have...and all that dross we can sign...I can't wait..can You?
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:39 pm
by fidelcastro
Steve1956 wrote:All those millions we have...and all that dross we can sign...I can't wait..can You?
And how do you know it will be dross?
If you already know it will be, then I wouldn't bother going on next season.

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:41 pm
by Steve1956
fidelcastro wrote:And how do you know it will be dross?
If you already know it will be, then I wouldn't bother going on next season.

What are your thoughts on our record signing? Money well spent?
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:42 pm
by Steve1956
I find it quite strange our season has gone tits up since the end of January what happened in that transfer window eh?
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:47 pm
by fidelcastro
Steve1956 wrote:I find it quite strange our season has gone tits up since the end of January what happened in that transfer window eh?
Have you nicked pstotto's stash?

Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:50 pm
by kilmalley
Steve1956 wrote:Why is it woeful from where I was stood he couldn't put a pass to a team mate even if he was stood next to him.
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So YOU was that person who STOOD in front of ME thus not enabling ME to have a view and a chance to give an appropriate response on how the TEAM and indidivual players performed ?
Shame on you.
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Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:57 pm
by Dark Cloud
Tarkowski kept a clean sheet!! So I don't get it.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:51 pm
by Sidney1st
fidelcastro wrote:And how do you know it will be dross?
If you already know it will be, then I wouldn't bother going on next season.

Just drop it, Steve just likes to fish and you're being reeled in.
Re: Keane gone Mee Injured
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:48 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Steve1956 wrote:No I never saw such a post,next season if those two have both gone or one has gone and one is injured,we have no one currently good enough on our books to replace either,making relegation next season if not this one...inevitable .

So if I read that right we are only allowed to sell. I hadn't realised we were under a transfer embargo