Flanagan

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:22 pm

Car crash tv on a football field, thank the lord we got away with it....just.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:26 pm

I was worried when he was brought on and up against Zaha but I thought he did well.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:I was worried when he was brought on and up against Zaha but I thought he did well.

What about when he legged him up?

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:31 pm

not here next season move on

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:32 pm

Goalposts wrote:not here next season move on

Thank God, there is a decent full back in there but he's a liability at times.

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:33 pm

Thought he did well today.... And as for the Penalty.... No way he had his foot firmly behind the ball...Zaha was a disgrace, he jumped in the air and spun 180 degrees

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:35 pm

Thought he did well picked the speed of game up very well and did a lot of the ugly stuff well though he did what he had to today if you can single him out in that performance then some will never be happy UTC

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:36 pm

Zaha got what he deserved today.. nothing!
Ref knew he would roll at any given chance

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:38 pm

Saha waited for some sort of contact, then spun, and went down like the cheat he can be.
Great player, but what bloody con artist.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:38 pm

Gotta cut him some slack because of course he's not played much.

Bearing that in mind, i thought he was very good.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:39 pm

Commentators said he performed well. Not sure many agree with you Diesel.....must be the fumes!

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:52 pm

FFS give the guy a chance. Not had much game time and came on and did ok. Yes one clear foul but one that Ward may have committed in same situation. Let's just celebrate a good away day and leave Flanagan alone. He is a claret for now and giving his all for the cause.

Tacler · Post by **Tacler** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:55 pm

Probably Flanagans toughest challenge as a Burnley player to date and he never let the side down

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:55 pm

He was only signed to drive Barton to Gawthorpe, you know?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:58 pm

Thought he did extremely well and showed pace and commitment.

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:01 pm

Like many, I worried when he came on especially as Ward was having such a good game but he put in the shift and came out on top and for that performance 3 points and a clean sheet he has proved it was worth him being a claret for a year and may start next week too if Ward needs time to recover.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:01 pm

IanMcL wrote:Thought he did extremely well and showed pace and commitment.

I take it you didn't manage to get into the ground then, Ian?

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:03 pm

vinrogue wrote:Like many, I worried when he came on especially as Ward was having such a good game but he put in the shift and came out on top and for that performance 3 points and a clean sheet he has proved it was worth him being a claret for a year and may start next week too if Ward needs time to recover.

'Put in a shift'

Jesus, what are you people watching?

Jeffbfc · Post by **Jeffbfc** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:04 pm

Played well.
And like keone said, with him being right footed Zaha struggling to cut inside.
UTC
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Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:05 pm

Stuart Pearce said he had a good game, was very complimentary.

I didn't see it and I'm not an expert, but Pearce did see him play and being a former fullback he's definitely qualified to say Flanagan played well.

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:06 pm

Played very well today

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:09 pm

Clearly you think Flanagan played poorly today Diesel, however no one seems to agree with you. Just try and celebrate today's performance and applaud all of our players who gave their all for the Claret cause today.

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:10 pm

Diesel wrote:'Put in a shift'

Jesus, what are you people watching?

put in "the" shift that was required which is slightly different in my meaning to putting in a shift, the defence was drilled to play in a certain style to neutralise the threats of Benteke and Zaha. Coming into the game when he did on half time with hardly a competitive game all season takes some doing, him and Tarks deserve praise today in my opinion.UTC

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:10 pm

Couldn't see the penalty incident as too far away but thought he had a good game

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:10 pm

He epitomised our performance

Could have gone the other way with Zaha running rings round him, bit I thought he was immense. Well done to him

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:18 pm

If tackling like an eight year old is acceptable then he is tip-top

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:20 pm

Well done Mr Flanagan hope this helps to rehabilitate you as a decent footballer.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:21 pm

warksclaret wrote:He epitomised our performance

Could have gone the other way with Zaha running rings round him, bit I thought he was immense. Well done to him

Immense now!?

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:36 pm

If you don't like Flanagan Diesel, just come straight out and say so.
Heaven knows we need someone to bring us down to earth after today's magnificent result

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:43 pm

The penalty shout was rightly turned down, in my opinion Flanagan is playing the ball, the attacking player arrives a split second afterwards; good refereeing.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:56 pm

I thought he played well today, but I can understand some of the criticism of him in the sense that he has always been hyped up as a Liverpool legend, and he's not up to that standard (yet). With a run of games I am certain he could be much better than he has been, let's not forget how long he was out for before coming to us.

If we have an option to buy, I wouldn't object if SD decides he's worth it

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:07 pm

Just back from the game. Must say I was bricking it when Ward went down for the 2nd time and had to go off. The first action Flan had- he backpedalled to a into a nice position under a ball and then a cushioned a header to a colleague- settled me and him down. I thought he did well; not as assured as Ward and not our best defender but under the circumstances he should be happy with what he did & deserved his corn.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:15 pm

Agree with Diesel, I'm afraid. Flanagan wasn't good and if the ref wasn't hopeless Palace would have had a penalty.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:11 pm

Diesel wrote:I take it you didn't manage to get into the ground then, Ian?

Ha! I have criticised him all season, so happy to say he played a full part today.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:12 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Agree with Diesel, I'm afraid. Flanagan wasn't good and if the ref wasn't hopeless Palace would have had a penalty.

Having seen it again on MotD, I'm not quite as convinced.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:17 pm

When he came on I feared the worst. I commented that BFS would almost certainly switch Zaha to that side in the second half. In the first 10 minutes I thought he was poor, rash at times and clumsy on the ball. But in the final half hour or so I thought he played an important role in neutralising Palace's only real threat. He did very well under the circumstances today and I've been his harshest critic to date.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:20 pm

I havnt been a Flanagan fan at all and feared the worst when he replaced Ward who I thought was outstanding. He played very well and no way was that a penalty at all.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:22 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Agree with Diesel, I'm afraid. Flanagan wasn't good and if the ref wasn't hopeless Palace would have had a penalty.

Are you saying it was a penalty because what Flanagan did to Zaha made him fly a foot into the air and crash to the turf? Or are you saying it was a penalty because Flanagan touched Zaha and this was immediately followed by Zaha flying a foot into the air and crashing to the turf?

Remember that there are hundreds of times in each game when two players touch in the penalty area. They aren't all penalties. And if two players do touch, and it's not a foul, it can't suddenly become a foul because one of the players falls over in a spectacular manner.

If Flanagan kicked Zaha into the air, it's a foul. If he made incidental contact and Zaha jumped into the air, or if Zaha was trying a clever turn and fell over off balance, then it's not a foul. I can't honestly see how anyone (except Ian Wright, who doesn't know the rule anyway) could think that what Flanagan did caused Zaha to fall over in that spectacular manner.

As for the original post about how well he played - we were under pressure for the second half, with Zaha, a very good player in excellent form on Flanagan's wing, and we didn't let any goals in. That's good enough for me.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:28 pm

Diesel-the reason I thought he was immense today was that I had been disappointed by him in previous games. He stuck to his job, fearless in the tackle and up against two in form PL wingers.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:39 pm

Flanagan battled well today but he's miles away from being good enough. He gave the ball away too frequently, was rash in the tackle and is generally a split second too slow to everything.

Massive win today and he played his part, but just as I won't say every player is awful when we lose I won't pretend every player is great when we win. I'd be disappointed if we tried to sign him this summer. I'd be very surprised if he's playing Premier League football next season.

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:08 am

Diesel wrote:If tackling like an eight year old is acceptable then he is tip-top

Shouldn't even respond to this but got to say you really have an agenda here and you are talking out of your @rse.

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:13 am

Not been his biggest fan, but I thought he was excellent when he came on today in tricky circumstances. Never a penalty in a million years.

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:56 am

Sorry, but one of the reasons we kept CP out was Flanagan's close attention to Zaha. It was going to be close and messy. Well done lad.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:04 am

up against one of this seasons most improved players and after a nervy start he had him. so much so that Zaha switched sides and then Lowton, my MOM, had him.

maidenover · Post by **maidenover** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:48 am

First of all, he came on with a terrific attitude, instead of sulking because he's hardly played. (must congratulate Tarkowski on this too).
Secondly, he was up against one of the best wingers in the PL in Zaha
And thirdly, he performed pretty well against both Zaha and everyone else he came against.

Don't know if he's going back to Liverpool, but if he stays and does a Dyche pre-season, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts to provide competition for both Lowton and Ward next season

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:17 am

Palace went into the game without key defenders, we started without one and played for 45 minutes without another.

The performance levels of those replacement players, theirs and ours, was the difference in the end. Flanagan wasn't perfect by any means but he stuck diligently to the job and limited Zaha's considerable threat. Having Arfield in front helped him as well.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:08 am

Flanagan did well. Saha was going going down at the first opportunity, he won a free kick in the first half outside our box, there was no contact, he slipped. Graham Poll's view was no penalty, he said the ref has to be 100% sure before making a decision and the way Zaharias threw his legs up was not convincing. Well done to Flannagan, it's not easy coming in, picking the game up on top of that having to mark Zaha.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:24 am

Looks like I'm in the minority in that I actually agree with Diesel. I thought it was a real struggle for Flanagan and had that pen been given I imagine there wouldn't have been quite as much praise (and I do feel it was a penalty). Some of Flanagan's challenges looked a bit clumsy and desperate but to be fair, he was up against some really tricky Palace players and hadn't played for a while. Must have been tough.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:32 am

Zaha is a cheating twonk and Flanagan did well against him. Another player who did brilliantly to help us win our first away game this season.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:37 am

Like many I feared the worst when Flanagan came on, as I did about the game in general, but like that game, my fears were unfounded, and like the rest of the players, Flanagan did all that was asked of him.

Zaha and Palace tried to take advantage down our left but, with Arfield's and others support, nothing really serious materialised, so much so that Palace and Zaha moved to our right to try there.

Well done Jon Flanagan.