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10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:15 pm
by Falcon

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:39 pm
by RocketLawnChair
If implemented it will become yet another tool to give the big clubs an advantage.

I can see it now Burnley player says "no way ref" is sent straight to the sin bin.

Man United player says "how the **** can you ******* give that you useless ******* ****" is threatened with sin bin.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:41 pm
by Silkyskills1
Good luck to any ref on a Sunday morning with that one. Far better idea to introduce it at the other end of the league structure. 10 minutes seems very short and we'd probably see more players falling down to rub their ankle or need a drink of water. Chaos looming.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:45 pm
by Spijed
It'll only work if a team is losing as it could leave them exposed. If a team is winning they'll just park the bus for 10 mins.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:45 pm
by chekhov
How about an old-fashioned yellow card? Would have thought that would do the trick. Sin bin sounds like a gimmick and something else to add to the game, slowing it down and making it more complicated.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:48 pm
by Tall Paul
chekhov wrote:How about an old-fashioned yellow card? Would have thought that would do the trick.
It didn't for Zaha on Saturday.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:00 pm
by the_fat_shearer
Silkyskills1 wrote:Good luck to any ref on a Sunday morning with that one. Far better idea to introduce it at the other end of the league structure. 10 minutes seems very short and we'd probably see more players falling down to rub their ankle or need a drink of water. Chaos looming.
Exactly.

If you introduce a 10 minute sin bin it will ruin those ten minutes of the game. The side down to 10 will do everything in their power to waste time.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:04 pm
by dpinsussex
Silkyskills1 wrote:Good luck to any ref on a Sunday morning with that one. Far better idea to introduce it at the other end of the league structure. 10 minutes seems very short and we'd probably see more players falling down to rub their ankle or need a drink of water. Chaos looming.
Who manages the 10 minutes? If 3 or 4 players are off then pure chaos.
Also if temp sin bin for dissent and it continues is that a standard yellow and back on pitch or a 2nd yellow and sent off.
Is the player allowed to stand with his team during the sin binning or do we need seperate "detention areas"

Terrible idea

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:16 pm
by ThinLizzy
Some bizarre comments on here. They manage at the big International tournaments in Rugby Union with this. Is football anywhere near as complex on tackles etc? I don't think so. Respect is one thing they have for their game and the referee.
Something very much lacking in football.
It's easily dealt with. It's not Diane Abbott counting the time down. It'll be a clock.
Sure, it goes without saying that a team down to ten men will try to slow the game down etc but surely that can be added to the sin bin. As in the rugby, the clock stops. Just stop the clock when a player tries to waste time. It really is quite simple. They'll soon realise that wasting time will just extend the game. I'm all for it if it stops the diving like Sane, Zaha, Rashford etc tried at the weekend. Continuous disruption of play/tie wasting would result in a yellow/second yellow card and a subsequent red. It's very simple. It would stop cheating very quickly and improve the flow of the game eventually.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:50 pm
by FactualFrank
How about the player is sin-binned until the next goal goes in :-D
If the winning team defends deep, that's only what they'd have done had a man been sent off, anyway.

But overall, I don't think it will work.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:52 pm
by ClaretTony
Not in favour of this at all

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:09 pm
by Goobs
Man Utd would be down to 3 men after the first decision goes against them.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:18 pm
by minnieclaret
Pointless unless there is a running clock showing game time and sinbin time, as in rugby.
a player will just go down injured and spin out the 10 mins.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:24 pm
by box_of_frogs
I'd much rather see physio's coming onto the pitch whilst play continues around them. That'd stop the time wasting / rolling around like you've been shot by a sniper.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:49 pm
by clitheroeclaret2
Brilliant

Other than 2 or 3 of our team, eg marney, barton, barnes this will work massively to our advantage compared to all the other ill disciplined lot.

Will probably stop it happening in the 1st place so that's got to be a good thing. Referees have enough to do with trying to control some of these idiots!

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:50 pm
by Steve1956
Think we can forget this one guys, shite idea

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:50 pm
by ElectroClaret
If this is meant to combat dissent, as it says, then they should never have scrapped the
ten yard rule, where the ball was moved forward when someone began mouthing off.
This was a real deterrent, particularly when play was near the box.

Think those belmtards UEFA gave it the elbow, but I don't know why.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:25 pm
by dpinsussex
clitheroeclaret2 wrote:Brilliant

Other than 2 or 3 of our team, eg marney, barton, barnes this will work massively to our advantage compared to all the other ill disciplined lot.

Will probably stop it happening in the 1st place so that's got to be a good thing. Referees have enough to do with trying to control some of these idiots!
Apart from the fact we arent playing non league football.
Might help the horse fiddlers in a couple of years tho

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:30 pm
by Rowls
Silly idea only suited to sports played with a stop-clock for game time.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:31 pm
by boatshed bill
non-league crowds will be able to look forward to bits of 5 a-side with rush-goalies. Sounds like fun, if not football as we know it.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:33 pm
by Sidney1st
The other week Rooney appeared to spend about 10mins complaining to/about the ref after he didn't get something awarded in his favour.

The ref eventually booked him when he got bored of the gobbing off.

If people are happy to see that going on then fair enough.

What about the times when Players surround the ref?
Personally there should be a microphone on the ref so the FA can listen to the recordings after games and hand out punishments based on the words aimed at the refs that we've all seen used.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:16 pm
by Darthlaw
I can see the logic behind it but can't see how it could be worked into the game.

Imagine Zaha gets his second yellow against us but goes on in the game to score the winner. He misses the following game against our relegation rivals, thus weakening Zaha's team and increasing our rivals chances. How have Burnley benefited in this scenario?

IMO it should be put in for diving and the player off the pitch for 10 minutes live ball time, so that injuries and time wasting would only hurt the team with the diving player. How would Man U react to Rashford missing 15 minutes of the game for diving. More importantly, would he be as inclined to do it again?

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:24 pm
by Steve1956
Sidney1st wrote:The other week Rooney appeared to spend about 10mins complaining to/about the ref after he didn't get something awarded in his favour.

The ref eventually booked him when he got bored of the gobbing off.

If people are happy to see that going on then fair enough.

What about the times when Players surround the ref?
Personally there should be a microphone on the ref so the FA can listen to the recordings after games and hand out punishments based on the words aimed at the refs that we've all seen used.
The Microphone works really well in Rugby Union,and the players respect the referee so much more,great idea for football.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:29 pm
by grapidianclaret
the_fat_shearer wrote:Exactly.

If you introduce a 10 minute sin bin it will ruin those ten minutes of the game. The side down to 10 will do everything in their power to waste time.
Under that premise, the FA should do away with the red card, cause it ruins what is left of the game.

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:30 pm
by grapidianclaret
Rowls wrote:Silly idea only suited to sports played with a stop-clock for game time.
Additional minutes anybody?

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:28 pm
by No Ney Never
Forget sin bins, the football authorities should introduce a free kick in the knackers.
Say we're playing manure and Rashford takes a dive or Rooney does too much gobbing off, instead of a sin bin or yellow card for the player, our manager should be allowed to kick their manager in the knackers. Would soon have managers ridding such behaviour from their players and make for great TV. Who'd tune in to MOTD to watch Dyche hoof Mourinho? Forget goal of the month, balls of the month would be swell !!!

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:58 pm
by Falcon
What about the lesser spotted female managers who I understand are generally sans knackers?

Re: 10 minute 'Sin Bin' for dissent to be trialled in non-league

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 4:09 pm
by No Ney Never
Falcon wrote:What about the lesser spotted female managers who I understand are generally sans knackers?
They're given a wedgie and banned from talking for 10 minutes, that's probably enough to upset most women.