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Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:03 pm
by ClaretTony
He's resigned

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:05 pm
by HyperClaret
Wow Tony you found out fast I only just heard it on the radio as breaking news :D

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:09 pm
by ClaretTony
HyperClaret wrote:Wow Tony you found out fast I only just heard it on the radio as breaking news :D
I got an alert on my phone just as I'd hit the button to start a new thread so switched to that. :D

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:12 pm
by CrispyClaret
Their goes probably his last chance to prove himself as a manager, put him into the permanently unemployed alongside Horseface.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:14 pm
by hampsteadclaret
No.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:15 pm
by dpinsussex
Tony is always on the button.
Breaking news rely on Tony

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:16 pm
by Touchline
Let's hope Sean isn't interested in the Championship.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:23 pm
by hampsteadclaret
6..Did you give your teacher lots of apples?

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:25 pm
by claretblue
HyperClaret wrote:Wow Tony you found out fast I only just heard it on the radio as breaking news :D
I knew last August! ;)

:)

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:27 pm
by levraiclaret
This is not good news.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:29 pm
by HatfieldClaret
It's neither good nor bad, so long as he doesn't one day end up with us.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:31 pm
by ClaretTony
HatfieldClaret wrote:It's neither good nor bad, so long as he doesn't one day end up with us.
Has no direct effect on us but agree with HatfieldClaret, I wouldn't want him anywhere near us. He's had a bad time since leaving Everton and I don't think he's going to get another decent job.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:35 pm
by mdd2
I think he will come good again. Did a decent job at Preston and Everton. Think Man U was always going to be difficult so that leaves his time in Spain and at Blunderland.
But what do I know of managers

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:37 pm
by Croydon Claret
I'm sure he rues the day he ever left Everton. His bank manager would disagree though

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:46 pm
by Hipper
I wonder if Sam Allardyce or Tony Pullis would have succeeded at Sunderland?

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:48 pm
by Goalposts
apparently Michael Gray, an x player of there has just said on Talk sport that nine of there players refused to play this weekend either directly or by feigning injury .

he said he knew that the club were trying to move at least 15 players on,,,,

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:58 pm
by wilks_bfc
Goalposts wrote:he said he knew that the club were trying to move at least 15 players on,,,,

That is no surprise. There are a lot of high earners there that don't have a relegation reduction clause in their contracts apparently

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:59 pm
by ClaretTony
Sunderland is a complete mess. The owner and Moyes had agreed he would stay but reports yesterday suggested he'd go after discussions with the players.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:02 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Stitched up in August when he was told there was no money to spend and again last week when he was told the owner was going to trouser all the monies from the parachute payments
This smacks of that nice man at Blackpool and we all know where the Lashers ended up and no I don't mean Wembley.
Best fit for the Mackems is Warnock.He can make shite perform and that something Sunderland have by the lorry load.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:07 pm
by Sidney1st
Another club who fell into the trap of overpaying in wages to average players.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:15 pm
by ElectroClaret
levraiclaret wrote:This is not good news.
In what way?

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:21 pm
by Wile E Coyote
moyes, good man, good manager, sunderland are in a mess, useless club.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:49 pm
by Sidney1st
ElectroClaret wrote:In what way?
Dyche to Sunderland rumours starting in 5....4....3....2.... :lol:

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:55 pm
by Colburn_Claret
He was on a loser if he stayed. The Yank has no intention of putting any more money into the club, and without it they could be down for a very long time. He's wise enough to know who would get the blame.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:56 pm
by ElectroClaret
They're almost as much of a car crash as Deadwood.

Be daft to go.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:56 pm
by holdyourfire
CrispyClaret wrote:Their goes probably his last chance to prove himself as a manager, put him into the permanently unemployed alongside Horseface.
I reckon he will be in for the bstrds job when mowbray runs away.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:58 pm
by Quickenthetempo
People think Dyche is negative, Moyes might be the most negative manager around. He didn't believe they would stay up from the first week he arrived.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:10 pm
by IanMcL
He was gone before the season started!

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:18 pm
by Sidney1st
Wile E Coyote wrote:moyes, good man, good manager, sunderland are in a mess, useless club.
Problem is at some point people will stop blaming the club and look at the manager....

He's got one chance left I reckon where he could shift the blame on to the club.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:19 pm
by Vegas Claret
what colour tie do you wear on Transfer deadline day Tony ? :lol:

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:50 pm
by Jacka
Thank god

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:50 pm
by Stalbansclaret
Dyche's name being fairly heavily touted for it on Radio 5 earlier with Ellis Short said to be an admirer. With "big club" jobs seemingly closed to British managers could it possibly be that SD might see reawakening a dormant big beast in The,Championship as his best chance of progression personally, as opposed to waiting for Pulis or Allardyce to expire ? After all it's possible to make the case that this might possibly be as good as his cv gets here whereas all there is with the,Mackens now is upside.
I know this is a touch pessimistic but I am a worrier !!

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:50 pm
by Stalbansclaret
Dyche's name being fairly heavily touted for it on Radio 5 earlier with Ellis Short said to be an admirer. With "big club" jobs seemingly closed to British managers could it possibly be that SD might see reawakening a dormant big beast in The,Championship as his best chance of progression personally, as opposed to waiting for Pulis or Allardyce to expire ? After all it's possible to make the case that this might possibly be as good as his cv gets here whereas all there is with the,Mackems now is upside.
I know this is a touch pessimistic but I am a worrier !!

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:51 pm
by Sidney1st
Reawaken a dormant beast???

Sunderland need more work then we did when he arrived.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:56 pm
by Jacka
Sidney1st wrote:Dyche to Sunderland rumours starting in 5....4....3....2.... :lol:
Just been seen checking in to Seaham Hall!

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:57 pm
by Stalbansclaret
Err...yes. They are truly dormant. But they are "big" in terms of fanbase and ultimate potential and hence my comments given where SD is in his career at right now and the constraints he faces. I hope my anxiety is
misplaced and , having vented it for therapeutic reasons, I welcome anyone persuading me I have nowt to worry about.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:58 pm
by ClaretAndJew
It would be an excellent job for Dyche to walk into to be fair. The size of the club, the stadium and the infrastructure surpasses us in our current guise, albeit a division below.

You'd have to be naive to think it wouldn't be a head turner for him. Hopefully not though.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:59 pm
by Diesel
He's not the first and won't be the last Scot to have his life destroyed by Heroin.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:00 pm
by ClaretAndJew
Diesel wrote:He does of course have other options in life, football isn't everything.

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FTFY

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:02 pm
by Diesel
There you go, ^^^^

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:04 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Whoever goes there is going to have a huge rebuilding job on their hands.

Remember one of their local journalists on radio 5 before Christmas saying the problem they have with changing managers yearly is there obviously is no long term plan and also a huge squad full of well paid players who when a new manager comes in find themselves out of the squad. He actually hoped they would give Moyes a number of years to formulate some plan even if they got relegated.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:17 pm
by Sidney1st
If the rumours are true that they ended the season with players finding excuses not to play then they're going to need major work to the playing squad.

Short doesn't want to sink more money into the pit...
Players overpaid.
Defoe leaving.
Lescott :lol:.

Nah Dyche won't go there, they simply aren't a step up anymore.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:21 pm
by Lord Beamish
ClaretAndJew wrote:It would be an excellent job for Dyche to walk into to be fair. The size of the club, the stadium and the infrastructure surpasses us in our current guise, albeit a division below.

You'd have to be naive to think it wouldn't be a head turner for him. Hopefully not though.
Give your f uckin' head a wobble, ya daft twunt.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:24 pm
by ClaretAndJew
Don't be mean, Beamish.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:25 pm
by Dark Cloud
I thought they'd all agreed he'd stay and have a crack at next season. Or did I dream that?

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:33 pm
by Vegas Claret
they won't be doing a Newcastle that's for sure. Giggs the current favourite

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:51 pm
by IrkthePurists
The days of leaving a PL club for a championship club are over thanks to Sky methinks.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:53 pm
by Sidney1st
Bruce did it, but he left a basket case to one a bit more stable.
I couldn't see Dyche leaving a secure job to sign up for a Basket case club.

Re: Moyes gone at Sunderland

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:15 pm
by wilks_bfc
Pearson currently favourite on SkyBet at 5/2

Dyche at 16/1 along with Kevin Ball & Stefan Schwarz