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"Should we bring back the death penalty for suicide bombers?"

Good question. Should we also consider corporal punishment for self harmers?

Ealing claret has hit the nail on the head.

It is quite tricky to execute someone who is already dead.

I think that's the joke

How about would-be suicide bombers or failed suicide bombers like those on 21/7 ?

Surely they can be executed posthumously?

And if we all pray collectively and pray really hard to Allah to petition that these murderers don't get their 72 virgins and rivers of sweet wine we should pray that they are not adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will not wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade. We should pray that they will not recline therein on raised thrones....... perhaps that could discourage them if they thought there was a chance that they were not going to be the most favoured and glorified in paradise.

If we all pray and annoy Allah ceaselessly with requests and complaints all day and night Allah might realise what we thought of Its policy on murdering in Its name perhaps It could make an amendment to the Qur'an. We would have to pretend to be believers of course because Allah doesn't listen to non believers but that might not be an easy ruse as It proclaims Itself as "The Best of The Deceivers" 'Khairul Maakereen' and thus could probably figure out that we are trying to pull the wool over Its eyes.

We would have to pray even harder for an amendment to the timeless and punishable with death immutability clause first though.
It's not looking good.

Well as there is only one god, whether he's called God or Allah, and he's the same bloke ( or LGBTQ) so we don't want to annoy him too much. But these 72 virgins, they can still be virgins with all the 'martyrs' that have been calling on them. God needs to get it across that they are now pox ridden,toothless ageing ladies (or LGBTQ) with so much cellulite that they have arses like cauliflowers. If they really wish to commit suicide they can go to Switzerland and die with dignity for a small fee.

There is no god, these people are just dying, going nowhere, the final sleep. No thoughts, no afterlife, just death.

Basically the way it was before we were born. That's what death is like. Nothingness.

Just let it be known that any remains of suicide bombers will be wrapped in pigskins and buried in unmarked graves. That may well stop some of the religious fanatics but you can't really legislate against easily led morons. There again, religious fanatics are easily led morons so, if you capture one alive, string them up I say.

ClaretAndJew wrote:There is no god, these people are just dying, going nowhere, the final sleep. No thoughts, no afterlife, just death.

Basically the way it was before we were born. That's what death is like. Nothingness.

I agree, so now go to Jeddah and tell them from a minaret. I suspect it won't be such an easy sell.

BennyD wrote:Just let it be known that any remains of suicide bombers will be wrapped in pigskins and buried in unmarked graves. That may well stop some of the religious fanatics but you can't really legislate against easily led morons. There again, religious fanatics are easily led morons so, if you capture one alive, string them up I say.

Every body knows that when it comes to penalties,we are bottle jobs.

What kind of moron wants to bypass judgment day, go straight to paradise and that get lumped with 72 heavenly virgins? Can you imagine that - 72 prissy angel types saying: "Oh I'm not so sure. Can't we wait? And you're definitely not sticking it up there!"

Nah, these jihadis haven't thought it through. They should have gone for 72 filthy whores, who are up for owt.

HatfieldClaret wrote:Well as there is only one god, whether he's called God or Allah, and he's the same bloke ( or LGBTQ) so we don't want to annoy him too much. But these 72 virgins, they can still be virgins with all the 'martyrs' that have been calling on them. God needs to get it across that they are now pox ridden,toothless ageing ladies (or LGBTQ) with so much cellulite that they have arses like cauliflowers. If they really wish to commit suicide they can go to Switzerland and die with dignity for a small fee.

The Islamic paradise is an unbelievably sexual abode. The author of the Qur'an soon realised what a powerful motivator sex was for the horny Arabs, the Muslims were promised the wives and daughters of those defeated in battle with Muhammad getting the pick of them and of course the reward for dying in battle whilst killing in the way of Allah was far far greater. Here is a contemporary source which describes how these virgins or 'houris' will be renewed after every time they have been popped-

"Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas"

Now, imagine you are an ugly, sexually frustrated devoutly pious believer, too ugly to even be considered cousin marriage material, mix in the usual fire and brimstone hatred rousing sermons at Friday prayers, and martyrdom to be fast tracked into paradise for eternal sex with the most beautiful girls imaginable all of a sudden looks a good prospect.

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Now, imagine you are an ugly, sexually frustrated devoutly pious believer, too ugly to even be considered cousin marriage material, mix in the usual fire and brimstone hatred rousing sermons at Friday prayers, and martyrdom to be fast tracked into paradise for eternal sex with the most beautiful girls imaginable all of a sudden looks a good prospect.[/quote]


Not much good if your equipment has been scattered along with the debris from your suicide vest.
Still maybe they have a place up there for Castrati.

Well, if the martyr's body was not promised to be renewed and youthful again that would have been a problem, but Allah has that covered.

"and all will have appetizing vaginas"

Good grief, WTF are they expecting when they eventually arrive at their chosen destination ?

Stoning is too good for them.

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Funkydrummer wrote:"and all will have appetizing vaginas"

Good grief, WTF are they expecting when they eventually arrive at their chosen destination ?

Fish pie I guess. There are two things that smell of fish; one of them is fish!!!!!

morpheus2 wrote:Well, if the martyr's body was not promised to be renewed and youthful again that would have been a problem, but Allah has that covered.

Given that God is a socialist (who else would build an amusement arcade next to an open sewer) the re-assembled martyr may not look good.

Oliver Cromwell was executed posthumously. When he was convicted of Regicide they dug up his body, chopped off his head and displayed it on a stick for several years.

Funkydrummer wrote:"and all will have appetizing vaginas"

Good grief, WTF are they expecting when they eventually arrive at their chosen destination ?

Stoning is too good for them.

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Here are some of the Qur'anic/hadithic descriptions of what kind of virgin the martyr is to expect to be greeted with -

Wide and beautiful/lovely eyes.
Like pearls.
Hairless except the eye brows and the head
Beautiful. White skinned. Transparent to the marrow of their bones.
Eternally young. Untouched / with hymen unbroken by sexual intercourse.
Voluptuous/full-breasted. With large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang.
Appetizing vaginas. Chaste.
Restraining their glances. Modest gaze. Splendid. Pure.
Non-menstruating / non-urinating/ non-defecating and childfree. Never dissatisfied Will sing praise.

Can anyone deny that Quranically sanctioned sex is not a great motivator if not the biggest motivator for the suicide martyrdom murderer?
Does anyone really believe that the religion/ideology has nothing to do with the actions of its subjects?

ClaretAndJew wrote:There is no god, these people are just dying, going nowhere, the final sleep. No thoughts, no afterlife, just death.

Basically the way it was before we were born. That's what death is like. Nothingness.

How do you know this?

Because I subscribe to the philosophy of needing evidence.

Without it, there isn't something. And until proved otherwise, you cannot say it is true.

Ealing_Claret wrote:What kind of moron wants to bypass judgment day, go straight to paradise and that get lumped with 72 heavenly virgins? Can you imagine that - 72 prissy angel types saying: "Oh I'm not so sure. Can't we wait? And you're definitely not sticking it up there!"

Nah, these jihadis haven't thought it through. They should have gone for 72 filthy whores, who are up for owt.

72 milfs

1968claret wrote:How do you know this?

How do you know different

ClaretAndJew wrote:Because I subscribe to the philosophy of needing evidence.

Without it, there isn't something. And until proved otherwise, you cannot say it is true.

But as no one can know what happens after death, you have no evidence either way. So you cannot be certain.

starting_11 wrote:How do you know different

I don't, that's the point.

Just as I can't say for certain that there is something after death, equally you can't know for certain that there isn't.
All any of us can have is belief one way or the other

1968claret wrote:How do you know this?

Because if there was a God he'd have asked me for advice by now.

Imploding Turtle wrote:Because if there was a God he'd have asked me for advice by now.

Therein lies your problem IT.

HatfieldClaret wrote:Therein lies your problem IT.

That i'm funnier than you?

Funnier ...... and more annoying.

Imploding Turtle wrote:That i'm funnier than you?

Eesh.

David Brent level cringe.

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Eesh.

David Brent level cringe.

Who's he?

Poll was an ok ref sometimes. This is a bit extreme.

Maybe if you catch them alive and they are Muslim you could make them work with Pigs or if they are Catholic send them to a convent, both are extreme but is it not a better punishment than hanging them.