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May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:16 pm
by hampsteadclaret
This will take place on the Sky News channel at 8.30pm this evening..

This is the format I think..

Corbyn goes first...he will be asked questions by a live TV audience...then he will get grilled by Paxman on his own.

Then Mrs May will get the same...live questions then a Paxman interview.

Corbyn and May will not come face to face tonight...she refuses to debate with him.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:17 pm
by Sidney1st
7pm or 8.30pm?!?

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:17 pm
by ClaretAndJew
So is it on at 7 or 8:30?

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:20 pm
by kentonclaret
"Britain's got talent" on one channel and a distinct lack of talent on the other. :lol: :lol:

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:25 pm
by Vegas Claret
here's how it will go, Corbyn will get grilled by Paxman and May will get nothing of the sort.
Paxman is a ****

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 8.30pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:33 pm
by hampsteadclaret
My clumsy error...8.30pm...I will attempt an edit.. :o


**Whatever the title says when I re-post, this programme is on at 8.30pm tonight...[Sky News Channel]

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 8:30 pm.

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:39 pm
by gawthorpe_view
hampsteadclaret wrote:My clumsy error...8.30pm...I will attempt an edit.. :o
Done!

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:41 pm
by hampsteadclaret
Thank you gawthorpe for your substantial talent..

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:45 pm
by bfcjg
Who told you it was on at seven Diane Abbott?

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:49 pm
by Hipper
It's also on Channel 4 (2030).

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:53 pm
by Sidney1st
bfcjg wrote:Who told you it was on at seven Diane Abbott?
Probably but she thinks it's on next week.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:01 pm
by Guich
I hope the audience asks the boring questions:
- What % of the £46bn you hope to raise, by taxing the rich and businesses, do you actually think you will get?
- Why didn't you build a guesstimate of the cost of nationalising the water companies into your fully costed manifesto?
Then Paxman can get on to the more interesting stuff about Jezza and his cohorts' beliefs on terrorism etc and past shenanigans. But hopefully steering away from what Abbot is like in the sack.

May will have a nominally tricky ride from Paxo re her social care policy (which will disappear from sight within three weeks of June 8th) and winter fuel allowances (ditto) and then be asked why her campaign team has forgotten the election is all about Brexit. And someone in the audience will ask why she set the cause of women back four decades by saying there are 'boys and girls jobs' in the household.

There... we can all watch Britain's got Talent now :)

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:07 pm
by bobinho
Boys and girls jobs??? WTF!!!

Blue jobs and pink jobs in my house. I put the bins out and mow the lawn and wash the car, she does the menial tasks like cooking and cleaning and washing and ironing. It's either that or she sees the back of my hand.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:11 pm
by Imploding Turtle
Boris Johnson's on now making political hay against Corbyn for holding an opinion Boris Johnson held until Corbyn shared it last week. This is why people hate politicians.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:28 pm
by Sidney1st
Its also a reason why people don't bother voting.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:43 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Imploding Turtle wrote:Boris Johnson's on now making political hay against Corbyn for holding an opinion Boris Johnson held until Corbyn shared it last week. This is why people hate politicians.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2005/07/jus ... ll-it-war/

Boris' article from 2005, a week after the London atrocities, is so good it is worth sharing in it's entirety. So, who "gets" the Middle East better, Boris, or Jezza?

By the way, the thrust of the article is that hatred started way before the Iraq war, but there was a "sharpening" to that hatred due to the way Blair didn't adequately explain it wasn't a war against Islam. He also implies he supports action that leads to democracy and women's rights. That is very, very different from the slant we get from Corbyn, so it is the media and corbynites that are being a bit disingenuous by trying to put Boris in the same camp.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:48 pm
by Imploding Turtle
CrosspoolClarets wrote:https://www.spectator.co.uk/2005/07/jus ... ll-it-war/

Boris' article from 2005, a week after the London atrocities, is so good it is worth sharing in it's entirety. So, who "gets" the Middle East better, Boris, or Jezza?

By the way, the thrust of the article is that hatred started way before the Iraq war, but there was a "sharpening" to that hatred due to the way Blair didn't adequately explain it wasn't a war against Islam. He also implies he supports action that leads to democracy and women's rights. That is very, very different from the slant we get from Corbyn, so it is the media and corbynites that are being a bit disingenuous by trying to put Boris in the same camp.

What camp? What do you think Corbynites are trying to do except pointing out this guys hypocrisy? You don't have to be a die hard Corbyn supporter to be angry that this guy is making a partisan attack from an opinion he himself shares. (Or was he making a partisan attack in 2005 too?)

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:52 pm
by claretandy
I'm looking forward to seeing Corbyn get a good Paxo stuffing !

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:56 pm
by hampsteadclaret
Personally, I am going to be interested in..

Who will LIE on camera for what they believe is sensible short term gain?

Who will avoid legitimate questions or give half answers or be economical with the truth?

Who will attempt to waste time by making speeches, and/or repeat themselves?

Are they both confident and at ease with a] audience questions b] Paxman questions.


The both have weak 'areas' where questions will probably be directed..

Corbyn - the IRA, Diane Abbott, manifesto costing.

May - calling the election early, U-turn last week, potential tax increases [can't wait to see this one.. :D ] and her own ability to handle Brexit [she is no economist].

Will the UK press give an accurate account in the morning of how it went?

It should be interesting...it is a great pity they are not doing a face-to-face.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:10 pm
by USC
Well the undercard was interesting. Now I see why they don't let Boris out much.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:34 pm
by ElectroClaret
Jezza on first......

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:40 pm
by Sidney1st
He's doing a good job at not answering the questions and going off on a tangent first.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:47 pm
by Darthlaw
Sidney1st wrote:He's doing a good job at not answering the questions and going off on a tangent first.
Not the first, nor the last politician to do it. Unfortunately I think May's approach will just be to deflect to Labours inadequacies instead.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:48 pm
by Sidney1st
Probably.

He does come across as a likeable bloke though and is coming across well, I'll give him that.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:49 pm
by claretandy
Corbyn doing well here ....

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:51 pm
by Darthlaw
Sidney1st wrote:Probably.

He does come across as a likeable bloke though and is coming across well, I'll give him that.
Definitely.

Very idealistic, mind, almost to the point of naivety but certainly a bloke who is passionate for his cause. Unfortunately the idealism of negotiating between conflicting sides and negotiation in the middle east it the bit that concerns me.

Put in the position May was on Tuesday morning, would he raise the threat level to critical or look for someone to negotiate with about stopping an impending attack?

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:52 pm
by taio
Yeah to be fair Corbyn did well then.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:52 pm
by OffTheBar
Like watching a game of dodgeball

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:53 pm
by USC
As someone who has never voted Labour, I thought Corbyn was excellent. Answered questions directly and clearly. Explained Labour's policy, not just rubbishing others'.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:53 pm
by claretandy
He might not be right but he believes what he says.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:54 pm
by dermotdermot
He's having a good innings but there is clear transparency. Very clearly a liar. Hopefully Paxman will nail him.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:55 pm
by Sidney1st
What's he lying about then?

Aside from maybe the IRA question.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:56 pm
by dermotdermot
Sidney1st wrote:What's he lying about then?

Aside from maybe the IRA question.
Exactly.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:58 pm
by Sidney1st
Well he's not rolling over for Paxman.

He's honoured a vote by his party and Paxman is asking if its morally right....eh?

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:59 pm
by ElectroClaret
Getting a battering from Paxo....

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:59 pm
by Imploding Turtle
"Are you frustrated that some of your baic core beliefs didn't make it into this manifesto?" (an inexact quote)

Why can't he just answer "Yes, but it's a party platform not a dictator's platform"

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:00 pm
by dermotdermot
Slipping up now. He sounds like Fred Kite in l'm Alright Jack.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:00 pm
by Imploding Turtle
Oh. lol. he just did as i was posting that. :lol: I just wish he'd started there.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:00 pm
by Murger
Bet Paxman is a hell of a lot harder on Corbin then he is on May. A bit like Milliband and Cameron last time round.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:02 pm
by Sidney1st
The answer to the monarchy question was very good.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:03 pm
by wickdkewlclaret
How has this Paxman got a job interviewing people, all he does is interrupt?

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:04 pm
by Darthlaw
Starting to slip and point towards the Tories shortcomings now.

Was doing very well and quite refreshing before then.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:06 pm
by john'sroseyspecs
wickdkewlclaret wrote:How has this Paxman got a job interviewing people, all he does is interrupt?
My favourite bread is granary. That wasn't the question you asked but that's the reply your getting

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:06 pm
by Lancasterclaret
He's coming across well. In the real world, all that really matters (at the end of the day) is that us and who we know and care about are OK.

Nice to see that he's aware that negotiations are much easier when both sides are interested in deal

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:07 pm
by Caballo
File Paxman under Tim Sherwood!

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:07 pm
by Imploding Turtle
"How much are you willing to pay to get a deal [with the EU]?"

I like Paxman, but isn't that a ridiculous question?

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:08 pm
by Darthlaw
To press so hard for an answer was daft.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:11 pm
by Sidney1st
Very good comment about Bin Laden and Afghanistan.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:13 pm
by ElectroClaret
Did well under fire.

Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:14 pm
by clarethomer
Paxman is being a Tim Sherwood.

Corbyn is coming across well so far imo. Thought his response to the Mancunian guy who was worried about increased tax and VAT on his schooling fees was excellent...

Would like to see what May has to say as still a floating voter at the moment...