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Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:32 pm
by cutsy123
Voting for

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:33 pm
by Steve1956
Imploding Turtle

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:34 pm
by dsr
Undecided. ;)

Isn't there another politics thread somewhere? :shock:

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:39 pm
by jdrobbo
Jeff Hendrick v Bournemouth

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:39 pm
by tim_noone
cutsy123 wrote:Voting for
Dyche to stay at burnley.. You haven't taken me up for a tenner yet!

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:43 pm
by ksrclaret
Ooh heck another political thread, maybe.

Can we give cutsy123 his own separate board please.

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:47 pm
by box_of_frogs
Monster Raving Loony Party

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:49 pm
by starting_11
Who, who?

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:50 pm
by dpinsussex
cutsy123 wrote:Voting for
Already have. You are so fortnight ago !!

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:11 pm
by john'sroseyspecs
Thought it was a thread about football chants. **** ground no fans!

Re: Who are you

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:36 pm
by Wile E Coyote
on a slightly serious note, you'd think with the economy, jobs, NHS, Police, terrorism, all manner of social injustice, taxation, benefit eligibility, care provision , social welfare reform, crime, education, tuition fees, school meals, there would be enough there to provoke debate and anger, but no !
Pig **** british electorate will yet again display ludicrous apathy when it comes to turning out to vote.
disgusting really, millions of eligible adult voters will not venture out tomorrow.
We are fairly thick as a nation, no wonder the place is a mess.

Final opinion polls

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:51 am
by Imploding Turtle
PDF links won't be renamed.

ComRes - Weighted normally and by likelihood to vote.

Conservative - 44%
Labour - 34%

Very high turnout suggested.
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YouGov - Weighted normall and by likelihood to vote. Undecideds with high likelihood to vote allocated by their 2015 vote or something.

Conservative - 42%
Labour - 35%

Turnout figures on this one suggest an extremely high turnout for all age groups, 65+ inparticular.
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Survation - Weighted normally & by likelihood to vote

Conservative - 34.5%
Labour - 33.5%
Wishy-washy ***** who can't make up their ******* mind already - 10.7%
Refused (to answer) - 6.3%

The headline figures are showing both Labour and Tories with about 40% and 41% but they're not weighted by the apparent likelihood to vote and they omit undecideds and refusals. It might end up being about right but if it's not then it'll be because undecideds were largely leaning one way or another. I'd imagine the incumbents would be more likely to receive an undecided's vote but who the **** knows anything anymore?

Also noteworthy is that Survation have very high figures for each age group who intend to vote. 68% for 18-24 to over 90% for 65+. These both seem unlikely but they are at least roughly in line with turnout in the referendum. Much higher than the last GE though.
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Up The Clarets voting model - Conservative seats

Up the Clarets can project that Conservatives will win 359.357142857115 seats.
Methodology. Rolled 7 100-sided dice and multiplied the mean average by 6.5 to simulate 6.5 dice to replicate the 650 seats in commons.
Margin of error +/- eleventy seven
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I'll add more polls as i can be bothered

Re: Final opinion polls

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:17 am
by mdd2
Get some sleep for tonight's wake for one side or t'other

Re: Final opinion polls

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:25 am
by Imploding Turtle
mdd2 wrote:Get some sleep for tonight's wake for one side or t'other

I have and i will, later. I'm hopeful but pessimistic about our chances of keep the Tories from being able to further destroy our public services. But one thing i'm optimistic about is that at least one group of people will be having a meltdown and i intend to be wide awake tonight to enjoy the chaos.

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:40 am
by LoveCurryPies
ClaretTony. Only sane person on this forum.

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:42 am
by South West Claret.
cutsy123 wrote:Voting for
A lot in my constituency are involved in maybe one if not the major shock result of the day :)

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:43 am
by MACCA
LoveCurryPies wrote:ClaretTony. Only sane person on this forum.
Are you mad????

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:49 am
by South West Claret.
LoveCurryPies wrote:ClaretTony. Only sane person on this forum.
So you've met every other poster on here have you? :lol:

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:55 am
by Woodleyclaret
Sorted two weeks ago Labours winning in East Reading 2-0 unfortunately we have thousands who will vote for our do nothing Tory MP Rob Wilson

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:59 am
by South West Claret.
Woodleyclaret wrote:Sorted two weeks ago Labours winning in East Reading 2-0 unfortunately we have thousands who will vote for our do nothing Tory MP Rob Wilson
Ah that will be the "quiet Con- artist (but I'm ashamed to admit it" brigade then.

General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:06 am
by Dom
Might make sense to have one massive merged thread for the GE otherwise the board will be a pain in the arse.

Voting after work as I left the house at 6.30am. Going Labour, hopefully be enough Labour votes to keep Cons out of Heywood and Middleton. UKIP did well last GE and it was a heavy BREXIT area.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:09 am
by claretblue
This thread is NOT mega yet! :roll:

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:11 am
by Rick_Muller
In my polling station this morning it was very busy, the staff noted that it has never been as busy before when I asked them about it. Hopefully a good turnout as a lot depends upon the results of this election.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:13 am
by mdd2
Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country (JFK)

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:15 am
by Lancasterclaret
Lifetime Lib Dem, tactically voting for Labour in Fleetwood and Lancaster.

I don't want to vote for either, but I see Lab as at least offering a change to the current situation. And almost all the UKIP vote will go Conservative, so I have to vote against that.

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:17 am
by cutsy123
ksrclaret wrote:Ooh heck another political thread, maybe.

Can we give cutsy123 his own separate board please.
Given that people bite at any chance this topic could be about anything

I couldnt give two tosses about politics so make of this post what you will and vote for whatever u want

Haha

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:17 am
by cutsy123
tim_noone wrote:Dyche to stay at burnley.. You haven't taken me up for a tenner yet!
10 it is

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:19 am
by Imploding Turtle
FAO Tory voters everywhere

Remember to sign your ballots in case of any funny business once polls have closed. You're going to want to be able to prove which party you voted for in the event of irregularities.

Labour voters, you don't need to do this.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:21 am
by claretdom
12 months on from turtles my voting choice is better than those who vote different stance is still alive and well.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:21 am
by South West Claret.
Lancasterclaret wrote:Lifetime Lib Dem, tactically voting for Labour in Fleetwood and Lancaster.

I don't want to vote for either, but I see Lab as at least offering a change to the current situation. And almost all the UKIP vote will go Conservative, so I have to vote against that.
Well played LC.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:21 am
by mdd2
Hi Lancaster, as a LIB Dem do you think the party picked the wrong man to lead them?
Had I been a Lib Dem my vote would have gone to Norman Lamb and of course the best leader you haven't had IMO is Vince Cable IMO

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:23 am
by mdd2
Imploding Turtle wrote:FAO Tory voters everywhere

Remember to sign your ballots in case of any funny business once polls have closed. You're going to want to be able to prove which party you voted for in the event of irregularities.

Labour voters, you don't need to do this.
Thanks IT but knew that already so signed in on the form with my postal vote. :D :D :D :D

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:26 am
by DCWat
Hardly a stellar line up on either side, which is a sorry state of affairs. Blue for me, I'm afraid.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:27 am
by Imploding Turtle
mdd2 wrote:Hi Lancaster, as a LIB Dem do you think the party picked the wrong man to lead them?
Had I been a Lib Dem my vote would have gone to Norman Lamb and of course the best leader you haven't had IMO is Vince Cable IMO

Who ever it was was on a hiding to nothing. It's not Tim Farron's fault what has happened to them. That said if i has a choice between him and Corbyn with policies being equal i'd still choose Corbyn simply because he's a better person.

It'll be decades before the Lib Dems recover from their coalition government. Whey were building a strong voter bas from the youth up. Each election they were growing their voter base in the youngest demographics and keeping them as they got older. And then with the coalition government they completely let them down and gave them reason to think that the Lib Dems were no different to the others when it comes to making promises. Now they have to start all over again, and none of that is Farron's fault as leader.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:29 am
by Lancasterclaret
No, the best leader they could have had was Nick Clegg, but he couldn't continue after the election.

Farron was the best of what was left, but they need to win some seats this time around. Of course, there is a danger that they might lose all their seats in England, which would be a disaster.

They haven't recovered from getting the blame for all coalition policies, while not getting the credit for the ones that worked.

I'm not a big believer in that the media have too much power, but I suspect that I believe a bit too much in my fellow men (and women) actually checking the stuff they read.

I don't want to vote Labour, I really don't, but last time the Lib Dems got less than 2000 votes up here. Its a wasted vote and I don't want the Conservatives to win (the leap to the right to get UKIP on side is complete no-no for me. Anything is better than that)

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:29 am
by Imploding Turtle
claretdom wrote:12 months on from turtles my voting choice is better than those who vote different stance is still alive and well.
There's an 'and it' missing from your post.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:30 am
by claretandy
Imploding Turtle wrote:FAO Tory voters everywhere

Remember to sign your ballots in case of any funny business once polls have closed. You're going to want to be able to prove which party you voted for in the event of irregularities.

Labour voters, you don't need to do this.
Because the Imam has already filled them all on

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:31 am
by Imploding Turtle
claretandy wrote:Because the Imam has already filled them all on

Yeah, paid for by the excess in the Tory campaign budget.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:31 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Right_winger wrote:I can't wait to come on here tomorrow and rub the libtards nose's in it when the Tories return a huge majority.
Or just normal everyday hardworking people who happen to have a different political viewpoint to yours you mean?

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:35 am
by Lancasterclaret
I'm nicer and probably older than you right winger.

I remember how much help a Conservative government gave Burnley last time, and I just feel a bit sad that it won't get any better for the area.

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:39 am
by MrTopTier
I live in the 5th safest Tory seat in the country. So the Green party it is.

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:41 am
by South West Claret.
MrTopTier wrote:I live in the 5th safest Tory seat in the country. So the Green party it is.
Just vote tactically and keep doing so TT.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:43 am
by Right_winger
Unfortunately the choice isn't he best, however voting in corbyn with brexit on the horizon is a recipe for absolute disaster. The man is genuinely dangerous to the country.

It's better to appeal to those on the right than the left when the economic future is a little precarious, at least they produce rather than take.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:47 am
by South West Claret.
Right_winger wrote:Unfortunately the choice isn't he best, however voting in corbyn with brexit on the horizon is a recipe for absolute disaster. The man is genuinely dangerous to the country.

It's better to appeal to those on the right than the left when the economic future is a little precarious, at least they produce rather than take.
...Where do they dig these people up from :roll: :)

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:48 am
by Imploding Turtle
Right_winger wrote:Unfortunately the choice isn't he best, however voting in corbyn with brexit on the horizon is a recipe for absolute disaster. The man is genuinely dangerous to the country.

It's better to appeal to those on the right than the left when the economic future is a little precarious, at least they produce rather than take.
May cuts police against advice from the police because it might lead to terrorism, but Corbyn's the one who is dangerous :lol:

Mind you, your ideas are a bigger danger to the country than either of them, or ISIS.

Re: Who are you

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:51 am
by MrTopTier
If everybody who voted last time, voted again and all voted for one party that were not Conservative, you would still need another 2000 people from somewhere to oust the Conservatives.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:52 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
South West Claret. wrote:...Where do they dig these people up from :roll: :)

I know frightening isn't it.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:53 am
by Dom
Right_winger in talking nonsense shocker.
Corbyn wants more police, more armed police & more MI5 agents to try and keep us safe. May cuts all those against advice, as both Home Sec and Prime Minister.
People on the right produce, left take? :lol:

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:53 am
by DCWat
Of course the police are going to say that they need more (I don't dispute that they do). I'm not convinced that more police would have prevented a single one of the recent attacks, whilst increased budget for our security services (which has been increased, I believe) does help to stop attacks.

As things stand I'd want more funding given to our security services than police.

Re: General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:54 am
by Right_winger
Imploding Turtle wrote:May cuts police against advice from the police because it might lead to terrorism, but Corbyn's the one who is dangerous :lol:
A man who is in bed with the IRA and other terrorist factions, wants to scrap our armed forces and has absolutely no idea how a western economy works.

He's got some very outrageous views in fact hasn't he been under MI5 surveillance for the past 30 years because of his views?

Do you genuinely believe that the cut in the number of police has actually contributed to the recent attacks? Do you not think that the mass migration and us taking in the rubbish the rest of the world don't want hasn't contributed to it?