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Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:52 pm
by Sykoclaret
Hi Fellow Clarets. I am looking for a good quality, high resolution pic of Turf Moor to use as the cover for my soon to be published, third in the series, Premier League diary. Anybody out there got anything suitable that won't infringe any copyright issues? Unfortunately, the photo would have to be supplied free of charge, but you would have the honour of it being displayed on a potential bestseller!
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:45 pm
by Pstotto
Of course you wouldn't want to be paying much for it...
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:48 pm
by clarethomer
Can I have a free copy of your book.. You would get the honour of knowing you have given a book to potentially someone who may sell it on ebay for some profit?
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:50 pm
by WadingInDeeper
Pstotto wrote:Of course you wouldn't want to be paying much for it...
But think of the exposure

Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:51 pm
by Sykoclaret
At this rate, it will be a blank cover!
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:16 pm
by minnieclaret
google turf moor. click images. hundreds to go at. quality too.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:18 pm
by Rick_Muller
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:19 pm
by cutsy123
Go and take on yourself
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:26 pm
by bfcmik
I think you should ask BFC. They will surely be able to help. If there are no legal issues maybe get one of the aerial photography companies that use drones
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:29 pm
by john'sroseyspecs

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Hou can have this one. The resolution isn't brilliant
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:30 pm
by tim_noone
Sykoclaret wrote:At this rate, it will be a blank cover!
Cricketfield as some good /great photos of the turf and surround he will oblige if he sees the post I'm sure.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 pm
by Vegas Claret
Pstotto wrote:Of course you wouldn't want to be paying much for it...
People say that to me now and again "I can't pay for it though". So you want me to give you my image for free that I took on 7 grands worth of equipment and edited on software that costs 300 quid plus ? Yeah course I will

Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:40 pm
by Sykoclaret
Already asked the club bfcmik, they supplied a couple but unfortunately they were unsuitable. Problem with pictures from the web is there may be copyright issues. That's why I thought I'd try here. Thanks all for the suggestions, some more useful than others.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:18 am
by CombatClaret
Sykoclaret wrote:Already asked the club bfcmik, they supplied a couple but unfortunately they were unsuitable. Problem with pictures from the web is there may be copyright issues. That's why I thought I'd try here. Thanks all for the suggestions, some more useful than others.
You can buy through the site for around £10 or send me £3 directly which is about what I get from a sale of that kind.
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Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:31 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Ive some on my instagram and facebook. You can use them for me. If any suitable let me know which you want.
Got loads more theyre just a few. Bit busy at the minute but will try dig some out.
Also sent some to dave thomas who posts on here and writes books for bfc. He has used some. If he sees this try and exchange details and happy for him to post them on to you.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:07 am
by starting_11
Sooo.... Someone asks for some help from hobbyists and enthusiasts etc then gets a load of abuse because he's not going to pay £100s for a favour?
Labour voters i guess!
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:52 am
by starting_11
No, I don't go to asda
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:18 am
by Sykoclaret
Many thanks for that cricketfield, I am sure there will be something suitable there. I have Dave Thomas's details so will probably contact him also. Once again thanks to everyone for your responses.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:33 am
by Claretmatt4

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Feel free to use that if it's any use. Before the Leicester game.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:47 am
by MACCA
2nd lot of pics, 2nd row, middle pic of Cricketfields is an absolute belter.
No fixture board or people in the way.
Captures what Burnley/Turf Moor is all about in that one picture IMO.
Would love that as a print.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:15 am
by Sausage
Why not ask the club if you can take your own photos?
In the pre-internet days I wrote to the club asking if I could get access to the ground to take some photographs. I got a phonecall a couple of days later from Albert Maddox saying I could visit any time I wanted and I'd be most welcome. The moral: ask nicely and nice things happen. It also means I have a great collection of 1991 photographs with the Cricket Field Stand sponsored by Hanson Offset Machinery. Trips off the tongue, eh?
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:56 pm
by Pstotto
john'sroseyspecs I've done that in reverse. I made a patent application for an artificial imagination and nobody was interested, so I took it into the garden, held it up to the sky and said:
"Look Aliens. When the light years have past and your telescope sees this, you will know that once there was intelligent life on Earth."
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:00 pm
by Pstotto
By the way, jon, your post. Absolutely hilarious, post of the week.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:03 pm
by LoveCurryPies
minnieclaret wrote:google turf moor. click images. hundreds to go at. quality too.
Do not do this. All photographs are the copyright of the photographer.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:05 pm
by Pstotto
What's wrong with claretmatt4's pic? You won't get better than that and it's looks high res.You could sell that to getty images.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:25 pm
by minnieclaret
LoveCurryPies wrote:Do not do this. All photographs are the copyright of the photographer.
except, unless labelled ©, a picture is a picture. any muppet can stand in the same position with similar equipment and get a similar image. i understand how galling this is for professionals but sadly it's true.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:31 pm
by CombatClaret
minnieclaret wrote:except, unless labelled ©
You don't have to label your photos to claim copyright over them, it's automatically becomes your copyright when you take the photo and can't be undone without a specific contract signing it away to a third party.
Yes someone could take exactly the same photo but you still own your photo and they still own theirs.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:37 pm
by aggi
minnieclaret wrote:except, unless labelled ©, a picture is a picture. any muppet can stand in the same position with similar equipment and get a similar image. i understand how galling this is for professionals but sadly it's true.
The © is meaningless in the context of copyright on photographs. You automatically get copyright for original photography. (Hopefully no-one has actually followed your made-up advice or else they could have a bit of a bill coming.)
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For searching for images, one source is flickr. You can search for keywords and also search which licence they should have. A large number of images on there are free, even for commercial use.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:43 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
minnieclaret wrote:except, unless labelled ©, a picture is a picture. any muppet can stand in the same position with similar equipment and get a similar image. i understand how galling this is for professionals but sadly it's true.
Except thats definitely not the case. Photigraphers spend years even a career to find that defining photograph. Its a skill. An art in fact. Anyone can take a picture of course. But to get a great photo you need an eye. The right kit. Experience and patience. I can understand why a professional would be upset if someone just sgole their work.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:43 pm
by Hipper
Post 19, Claretmatt4, I like that. It gives a sense of anticipation of hopefully good things to come.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:07 pm
by WadingInDeeper
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Except thats definitely not the case. Photigraphers spend years even a career to find that defining photograph. Its a skill. An art in fact. Anyone can take a picture of course. But to get a great photo you need an eye. The right kit. Experience and patience. I can understand why a professional would be upset if someone just sgole their work.
The patience of waiting until someone clears off out of short, or studying wildlife behaviour to get the image you want.
Not forgetting, getting the lighting right, knowing when the light has got that something special. Being in the right place at the right time isn't luck.
I get asked similar questions a lot. Can you do me a good deal this time, I've got xxx jobs coming up, my friend needs some work as well soon I will put a good word in, it's a prestigious project think of the publicity, it's for a charity........
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:10 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
WadingInDeeper wrote:The patience of waiting until someone clears off out of short, or studying wildlife behaviour to get the image you want.
Not forgetting, getting the lighting right, knowing when the light has got that something special. Being in the right place at the right time isn't luck.
I get asked similar questions a lot. Can you do me a good deal this time, I've got xxx jobs coming up, my friend needs some work as well soon I will put a good word in, it's a prestigious project think of the publicity, it's for a charity........
Can understand your frustration. Its the same accross all sorts of industries where people think they can do it themselves.
You wouldnt rewire a house if youre not an electrician.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:07 pm
by Claretmatt4
Hipper wrote:Post 19, Claretmatt4, I like that. It gives a sense of anticipation of hopefully good things to come.
Thanks hipper! Was a mad dash to get there on time from manhestet but in many ways the sweetest of wins!
Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:23 pm
by johnalexander
Hi syko, I have a picture of the dressing rooms at the turf. Sadly they do include a picture of a sad old git - but you could edit him out! I also have a picture of your seat from the singing ringing tree. However, you are not in that one. For a small fee (free copy of the tremendous forthcoming epic) you may use either of them. Let me know
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:43 pm
by ClaretTony
Sausage wrote:Why not ask the club if you can take your own photos?
In the pre-internet days I wrote to the club asking if I could get access to the ground to take some photographs. I got a phonecall a couple of days later from Albert Maddox saying I could visit any time I wanted and I'd be most welcome. The moral: ask nicely and nice things happen. It also means I have a great collection of 1991 photographs with the Cricket Field Stand sponsored by Hanson Offset Machinery. Trips off the tongue, eh?
Hanson Offset Machinery - didn't he get sent down for bringing in items from the Netherlands?
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:42 pm
by Targetman
Ken Hanson. Yes he did indeed get sent down.
Re: Ground photo request
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:30 am
by LoveCurryPies
minnieclaret wrote:except, unless labelled ©, a picture is a picture. any muppet can stand in the same position with similar equipment and get a similar image. i understand how galling this is for professionals but sadly it's true.
Totally wrong. You cannot just use an image 'found' on the internet. The copyright remains with the photographer. Many professionals and photo libraries (like Getty) have access to software that scans the internet for illegal use their images. They then invoice the user via solicitors and the going rate is around £1,000 for illegal use of an image.
There are many photo libraries that only charge a token amount and even a few free image sites. Use those. Alternatively, contact the photographer and get written permission to use their image.