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Home Air Conditioning

Post by starting_11 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:16 pm

Any good ideas for home air con?

Im fed up of the heat and usually have the fan in my bedroom on all night with the window open (even in winter) but its so hot these days at night they're not even providing any cooling, so this is something im genuinely thinking about - even though its expensive.

I wouldn't mind a fixed unit but I don't want the inverter box because of the looks and where to put it on my house - outside walls I would hear it because its a new build and even the brick walls transmit sound.

Other than that there are portable/plug in ones, but are they any good?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by ExistentialWanderer » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:18 pm

starting_11 wrote:... usually have the fan in my bedroom on all night with the window open (even in winter) .
I hope they're a Burnley fan! :o

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by ClaretEngineer » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:24 pm

The heat has gone to your head!

Don't fret this weather will soon be only a fond memory, once normal service resumes!
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by starting_11 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:25 pm

Yeah thats alright saying that now... itll be 32c tomorrow.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by ClaretDiver » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:29 pm

I'm loving this weather, give me another 3 or 4 degrees and I will feel right at home!

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:29 pm

if you've got a loft hatch, open it so the hot air keeps going up.

makes a big difference at ours.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by starting_11 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:32 pm

No loft hatch. Just a load of "environmentally friendly" insulation which makes my house a nice 32c inside even with the doors and windows open

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by dsr » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:32 pm

Buy a house with a cellar. It's a lot cooler down there.
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:33 pm

starting_11 wrote:Yeah thats alright saying that now... itll be 32c tomorrow.
You need a "cool" room on the north facing side of your house. Failing that take a cool drive in your a/c car and find a bar or any public building with a/c.

The warm weather will be a distant memory soon...

And, your a/c, if you decide to install, will be fitted in November.
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:33 pm


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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by starting_11 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:34 pm

Need Rowls to let us know if the bucket fan worked

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by TractorFace » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:42 pm

We have an Amcor AC portable unit and it does the trick in this weather. Obviously you have to vent the heat it generates out of a window. Last night it chilled our main bedroom down from 28C to a pleasant 18C. We first bought an AC unit back in the heatwave of 2006. It lasted 9 years and we replaced it with the Amcor unit - which is much more economical and you don't have to mess about emptying the water every time you use it.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by starting_11 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:49 pm

Got a link?

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:52 pm

Got bifolds in our house. Amazing in this weather

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Falcon » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:55 pm

Once the usual 1 week of British summer is over you'll be lumbered with an expensive, electricity drinking, noisy machine that you can't use for most of the year.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:59 pm

A bit of nice weather we complain,
A dusting of snow we complain,wimp's the fecking lot of ya! :)
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:00 pm

Falcon wrote:Once the usual 1 week of British summer is over you'll be lumbered with an expensive, electricity drinking, noisy machine that you can't use for most of the year.

Yes needs some careful thinking about..unless you have more money then sense and care not a lot about the environment.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by TractorFace » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:01 pm

This is the model we have. The link says 'out of stock' but you might be able to find it elsewhere.

https://tinyurl.com/y6wfsthx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by bobinho » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:15 pm

The simple electric fan can be more effective if placed behind a hanging bed sheet that has been moistened. Use a spray bottle to keep it wet and the air passing through it will be relatively cool.

Try it. It's quite effective.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:16 pm

starting_11 wrote:No loft hatch. Just a load of "environmentally friendly" insulation which makes my house a nice 32c inside even with the doors and windows open
do you have a saw?
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by starting_11 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:20 pm

...i've been warned about the 1 week of summer and not caring about the environment. I'm guessing that'll be filed under those?

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Darthlaw » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:34 pm

I have more money than sense and also don't care about the environment, apparently.

We bought a portable unit from B & Q about 5 years ago, which also serves as our dehumidifier for the cellar in Winter. As per Tractor face, it cooled my bedroom last night to a pleasant 20 degrees.

Also, it was well received by my Mrs last year when she was due to give birth to my boy and had to endure the final six weeks of pregnancy during our hot summer. Definite case of happy wife = happy life.
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by claretdj » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:46 pm

Starting 11, have a look @ a Dyson Hot n cool fan. I got 1 n they are excellent all year round. A rated on energy use as well. Utc

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by SingaporeClarets » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:13 pm

It dropped to 25c here a few days ago and I felt like putting a jumper on when I was taking the dog for a walk.

In my living room, all I use is a ceiling fan and the cool only version of the dyson (great for remotely monitoring air quality). I only use air con in the bedroom at night as the temperature rarely drops below 28c in the evenings and combined with a ceiling fan it can get too bloody cold.

Fans are also great for keeping all the mozzies away.

Suppose it's all relative, apparently it's too hot for planes to take off in Phoenix, 49c

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Steddyman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:36 pm

A fan doesn't cool a room though, it only makes it feel cooler by evaporating moisture on your skin.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Herts Clarets » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:39 pm

My house has 2 air con units. One on the mezzanine that over looks my lounge and one in the bedroom. They were in when we bought the place 6 years ago a and are very handy in this weather. Set the lounge one on timer so it is cool when i get home and the one in the bedroom so it is cool for bedtime.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Steddyman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:45 pm

You have basically three main ways of cooling a room:

1. Fan. Makes you feel cooler if the air passes over your skin, but does not cool the room. No good for example to keep equipment cool.
2. Evaporative Cooler (also called a swamp cooler). You fill it with water and it evaporates the water into the room to cool it. Cheap to buy and run but introduces moisture to the air (not an issue if the air is dry).
3. Air Conditioner. Cools everything and usually combined with a dehumidifier to remove moisture from the air. Expensive to run and buy, but works 100%. Needs the hot air it creates vented and if it is also dehumidifying the room, emptying of water regularly.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:57 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:if you've got a loft hatch, open it so the hot air keeps going up.

makes a big difference at ours.
I've got bees nesting in my loft so not really an option for me!
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Rowls » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:59 pm

Steddyman wrote:A fan doesn't cool a room though, it only makes it feel cooler by evaporating moisture on your skin.
It doesn't make you "feel" cooler; it makes you cooler.

A fan won't make a room cooler but neither will it contribute in any discernible way to the room warming. The heat energy generated by a fan is negligible.

It will make you cooler.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:20 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:if you've got a loft hatch, open it so the hot air keeps going up.

makes a big difference at ours.
Top tip is that, cheers.

The Notts' are noticeably cooler.
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Steddyman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:32 pm

Rowls wrote:It doesn't make you "feel" cooler; it makes you cooler.

A fan won't make a room cooler but neither will it contribute in any discernible way to the room warming. The heat energy generated by a fan is negligible.

It will make you cooler.
But only it it moves air over your skin, otherwise it won't.

I have a room with equipment in that needs to be kept cool, so my only options are 2 or 3. A fan does nothing.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Rowls » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:49 pm

Steddyman wrote:But only it it moves air over your skin, otherwise it won't.
A fan does nothing.
Cooling equipment is different yes but a fan will cool a person down.

It doesn't make the room cooler but neither does wearing a jumper in winter time make a room warmer.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by _Soclaretes_ » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:57 am

Rowls wrote:Cooling equipment is different yes but a fan will cool a person down.

It doesn't make the room cooler but neither does wearing a jumper in winter time make a room warmer.

Upgrade your fan and it will work even better. If the hot snap lasts any longer, this could help:

http://www.ecosnippets.com/diy/homemade ... ioner-diy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Could be a good little project eh?
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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by SingaporeClarets » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:16 am

A fan is certainly a tried and tested method here in the tropics - it definitely works!

If looking after your equipment is the priority, then yes you need another solution.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:40 am

_Soclaretes_ wrote:Upgrade your fan and it will work even better. If the hot snap lasts any longer, this could help:

http://www.ecosnippets.com/diy/homemade ... ioner-diy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Could be a good little project eh?
What a simple and energy efficient solution.

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by JohnMac » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:33 am

I'm thinking about turning the heating on this morning :lol:

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Re: Home Air Conditioning

Post by Rowls » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:07 pm

South West Claret. wrote:What a simple and energy efficient solution.
Simple - yes.

Energy efficient? Not really. You need to put a lot of energy into making the ice.

I'm running one of these but I had to buy an entire chest freezer to keep myself readily stocked with ice. It works pretty well but I have an entire freezer dedicated to making ice for me.

It could be as hot as 39 degrees here tomorrow. :shock:

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