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ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:32 pm
by ClaretTony
We were once drawn against our upcoming friendly opponents Hannover 96 competitively, but the tie was never played.
See link
http://www.uptheclarets.com/the-cup-tie ... ver-played" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:33 pm
by ClaretTony
I think one or two on this board might be interested in the picture of the Burnley fans
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:05 pm
by yorkyclaret
Remember dad filmed some very amateur 8mm cine film of the visit from Viscount Montgomery. Pretty sure it was later transferred to VHS, not sure if it has survived.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:06 pm
by ClaretTony
He certainly chose his game - it was like Alamein all over again with Burnley and Leeds kicking lumps out of each other.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:16 pm
by Silkyskills1
Just about to say was it 'the battle of Turf Moor' he attended. Remember the game and Alex Elder's incredible o.g.. We needed a win,I think, to secure runners-up spot in Div. 1. If you consider some of the players on show that day(and I stress on both sides) then once the 'first assault' was launched there wasn't anyone really available to negotiate any peace proposals.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:33 pm
by ClaretTony
Silkyskills1 wrote:Just about to say was it 'the battle of Turf Moor' he attended. Remember the game and Alex Elder's incredible o.g.. We needed a win,I think, to secure runners-up spot in Div. 1. If you consider some of the players on show that day(and I stress on both sides) then once the 'first assault' was launched there wasn't anyone really available to negotiate any peace proposals.
Both sides? We had a very innocent line up that day.
Adam Blacklaw, John Angus, Alex Elder, Brian O'Neil, Brian Miller, Sammy Todd, Willie Morgan, Andy Lochhead, Willie Irvine, Gordon Harris, Ralph Coates.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:19 pm
by claretblue
'...it was like Alamein all over again with Burnley and Leeds kicking lumps out of each other...'
wasn't that bad...no substitutes used by either team!

Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:00 pm
by ClaretTony
claretblue wrote:'...it was like Alamein all over again with Burnley and Leeds kicking lumps out of each other...'
wasn't that bad...no substitutes used by either team!

First season when we had subs but they could only be used to replace an injured player. No one got injured in those games, they just carried on with the lumps kicked out of them.

Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:30 pm
by huddsclaret
Front row. 2nd from left. Malcolm Moss?
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:36 pm
by ClaretTony
huddsclaret wrote:Front row. 2nd from left. Malcolm Moss?
It is - one of four I know on that pic
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:16 am
by Bfc
Re the picture, I can re call the man in the middle of the back row with glasses on. Was he called Clive?. Of the others I know 3 of them well+ there's another who hid behind the flag to avoid being seen on the photo, as he had rung work saying he was sick. I'm sure Malcom was selling people the scarves with Claret n Blue running downwards.
Am I right in thinking we should have played Lucerne, rather than Lausanne?, when the draw was made.
I always felt we shouldn't have been denied a place in the Inter Cities Fairs Cup, based on the fact that, although were not a City, we held a fair every year.
For a long time teams like Nottingham Forest and Birmingham played in the tournament and they had usually finished near the bottom of the division, while we finished near the top. I think one season Birmingham were entered, when they had been relegated to the old Div 2.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:19 am
by Bfc
Re the picture, I can re call the man in the middle of the back row with glasses on. Was he called Clive?. Of the others I know 3 of them well+ there's another who hid behind the flag to avoid being seen on the photo, as he had rung work saying he was sick. I'm sure Malcom was selling people the scarves with Claret n Blue running downwards.
Am I right in thinking we should have played Lucerne, rather than Lausanne?, when the draw was made.
I always felt we shouldn't have been denied a place in the Inter Cities Fairs Cup, based on the fact that, although were not a City, we held a fair every year.
For a long time teams like Nottingham Forest and Birmingham played in the tournament and they had usually finished near the bottom of the division, while we finished near the top. I think one season Birmingham were entered, when they had been relegated to the old Div 2.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:19 am
by ClaretTony
Held a fair every year

- brilliant
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:46 am
by IanMcL
That is a very interesting story and shows an element of the development of European wide football. Thank you.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:36 pm
by evensteadiereddie
A superb piece, Tony, thanks.
I attended all the Fairs Cup home games as a lad - I remember being at the front of the Scratching Shed v Napoli when Andy Lochhead got stamped on right in front of us - but I'd no idea about the pre-competition shenanigans.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:18 am
by Mondsley
I remember the cup campaign clearly including the 3 0 win over Napoli on the Turf and the 0 0 in Naples where Adam Blacklaw got in a tussle with the Italian authorities! Surprised big Brian Wren doesn't feature on the photo. Dont think he missed a game home or away in the Sixties. But look at the suits and ties! Think some of us need to up our game for our away day attire!
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:45 am
by ClaretTony
I think the photo is of the lads who went on the coach and I think Brian Wren would possibly have flown out with Roy Kilby.
The pair of them certainly went to the game in Naples as per the link
http://www.uptheclarets.com/everton-and ... -and-kilby" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:49 am
by ExistentialWanderer
What an ineresting and insightful article.
Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:41 am
by Mondsley
ClaretTony wrote:I think the photo is of the lads who went on the coach and I think Brian Wren would possibly have flown out with Roy Kilby.
The pair of them certainly went to the game in Naples as per the link
http://www.uptheclarets.com/everton-and ... -and-kilby" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for that CT. Just one of many scrapes that Wrenny got into on away trips

Re: ARTICLE: The cup tie against Hannover that was never played
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:11 pm
by Silkyskills1
Went to the game v Napoli at the Turf where we played in our 'away' kit that night whilst the visitors wore their traditional home kit. Both sides in ' home' kits in the return leg. Seems a little strange in hindsight. Was it a Harry Thomson penalty save that irked the home fans into their angry behaviour? He did the same at Blackpool a few days later but without a similar response from their fans.