Wishing all Clarets a fantastic day today whatever your background or belief.

Happy Eid.

I spotted a post on my news feed last night from a friend of mine asking when it was

Happy Eid.

I know I can be critical of Islam and attitudes within the Muslim community but I still wish all celebrating today the best. Get some food down you and enjoy it lads and lasses!

Thank you Sidney and CM.
CM - you have every right to criticise Islam or anything else for that matter. It looks the sort of morning for a bacon butty and perhaps a few beers in the afternoon?

Sidney1st wrote:Happy Eid.

I spotted a post on my news feed last night from a friend of mine asking when it was

Not sure that I follow why that's funny?

Lookin forward to samosas at work tmoz

I don't have any Muslim neighbours, or work colleagues anymore so no feast for me over the coming days.

No need to go shopping or cook usually following Eid.

Holmeclaret wrote:Wishing all Clarets a fantastic day today whatever your background or belief.

I may well be wrong but I thought Eid started at around 7pm tonight and continued for 24 hours?

Holmeclaret wrote:Thank you Sidney and CM.
CM - you have every right to criticise Islam or anything else for that matter. It looks the sort of morning for a bacon butty and perhaps a few beers in the afternoon?

No beers I'm on a diet

tybfc wrote:I may well be wrong but I thought Eid started at around 7pm tonight and continued for 24 hours?

This is because muslims can never agree on anything. The first day of Eid depends upon the sighting of the new moon. Some take the idea of sighting literally so if it's cloudy and you can't see it - it's not Eid.

arise_sir_charge wrote:Not sure that I follow why that's funny?

The comments on his post were funny.

Someone in Australia said they could see the moon, whilst someone else in a different country couldn't.
They can never agree when its Eid and its usually amusing to see them discussing it.

They should've done what the Christians did and just used pre-existing holidays for their holy days.

Holmeclaret wrote:This is because muslims can never agree on anything. The first day of Eid depends upon the sighting of the new moon. Some take the idea of sighting literally so if it's cloudy and you can't see it - it's not Eid.

In fact Eid will start after 30 days fast if the crescent moon cannot be seen for any reason. Most Moslems would wait for an Imam in Saudi Arabia to declare the end of the fast when Shawwal is announced there, hence there is usually agreement.

The crescent moon marks the first day of the following lunar month, Shawwal, and it is forbidden to fast on that day (Eid al Fitr). A moslem is also obliged to undertake specific prayers and make charitable gifts.

Its amazing to me that most non-moslems have no idea about any of this! But then quite a lot of people don't associate Christmas with Jesus either.

Sidney1st wrote:
They should've done what the Christians did and just used pre-existing holidays for their holy days.

So maybe explain why Easter Sunday can be on any between 22 March and 25 April inclusive? In AD 325 it was fixed as being the Sunday after the first full moon after the spring solstice - probably to give it a date independent of the Jewish Passover.

I don't think moslems can take any lessons in simplicity from christians.

I thought this was another foreign player rumour!! :

KeighleyClaret wrote:So maybe explain why Easter Sunday can be on any between 22 March and 25 April inclusive? In AD 325 it was fixed as being the Sunday after the first full moon after the spring solstice - probably to give it a date independent of the Jewish Passover.

I don't think moslems can take any lessons in simplicity from christians.

What am I explaining?
Why the date is now decided in advance?
Or why it used to be decided in a similar method to how Muslims decide when Eid is?

I was actually referring to Xmas in the main.

Starving ones self based on a fairytale. Lunacy !

When does the Premier League season start?

Not soon enough...

KeighleyClaret wrote:
Its amazing to me that most non-moslems have no idea about any of this! But then quite a lot of people don't associate Christmas with Jesus either.

I know I don't particularly associate it with Jesus. That's because I am a Secular Humanist and an Atheist. I see it as what it is; a Pagan ritual for celebrating the darkest time of year with light, music, gift giving, and other general festivities. There's some Christian malarkey mixed in with all of that, but I take that with the same pinch of salt that I take the Pagan stuff.

It's just the same as Eid. It's a man made, cultural celebration that can be fun to join in with, but only if it is entered into without coercion and of your own free will.

Happy Eid to one and all, providing that that is your particular brand of Vodka.

RocketLawnChair wrote:Starving ones self based on a fairytale. Lunacy !

Hate to be pedantic but the Koran, unlike the Bible, was written contemporaneously.

They don't starve themselves; for a month they eat and drink between sunset and sunrise and pray a lot as a test of faith and soul cleansing.

Not my cup of tea, but I wouldn't call it lunacy.

Bah humbug!

Who gives a toss ?

Eid aye adio

Jesus V Mohammed is on the undercard of the McGregor-Mayweather fight.

Should be a cracker, I fancy Jesus will be too clever for the classy Muslim though and with a little help from his Dad will knock him out in the 9th.

Diesel wrote:Jesus V Mohammed is on the undercard of the McGregor-Mayweather fight.

Should be a cracker, I fancy Jesus will be too clever for the classy Muslim though and with a little help from his Dad will knock him out in the 9th.

I think you will find that the meek pacifist Jebus will turn the other cheek whilst Muhammad tortures Jebus by having a fire kindled on Jebusses chest, cuts one of Jebusses arms and legs off on opposing sides, strikes off the very finger tips of Jebus and finally strikes the head from what is left of Jebusses body. But the cheating Jebus knows that he will have the last laugh as just like Easter, all his suffering for mankind will only last for the weekend and then he will be put back together as normal as if nothing happened.

Happy Eid Mubarak to all my moderate muslim friends.

Thanks CA.
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morpheus2 wrote:all his suffering for mankind will only last for the weekend and then he will be put back together as normal as if nothing happened.

The resurrection story is just a mad-weekend-with-the-lads tale that get lost in translation over the centuries.

Looking forward to some of bfccrazys mums samosas and curries later. Theyve also put a joint get together and food on for my brothers birthday.

Think my nephew was more excited for Eid than christmas with all the food waiting for him

A joint ? ! ! ! Bloody hell, a good night assured then.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Looking forward to some of bfccrazys mums samosas and curries later. Theyve also put a joint get together and food on for my brothers birthday.

Think my nephew was more excited for Eid than christmas with all the food waiting for him

Shan clothing

Funkydrummer wrote:A joint ? ! ! ! Bloody hell, a good night assured then.

Weed on Eid, they'd certainly have no problems getting hold of some.

It's unbelievable how many people are actually conned by religion in this day and age.

Funkydrummer wrote:A joint ? ! ! ! Bloody hell, a good night assured then.

I think that all this religious stuff is nonsense but to each their own and as long they cause no harm to anyone I'm all for letting them get on with it

Right_winger wrote:It's unbelievable how many people are actually conned by religion in this day and age.

Fully agree

Right_winger wrote:It's unbelievable how many people are actually conned by religion in this day and age.

I think its unbelievable how many people struggle to tolerate others. As long as theyre practicing peacefully, without harming or forcing it on anyone else whats the issue?

Anyway. No doubt another topic to drift off on a tangent.

Eid Mubarak

Nixon says we are interested in signing him for 8 million

Vegas Claret wrote:Eid Mubarak

Nixon says we are interested in signing him for 8 million

Can he play holding midfielder?

Over here son on mi eid

HatfieldClaret wrote:Hate to be pedantic but the Koran, unlike the Bible, was written contemporaneously.

They don't starve themselves; for a month they eat and drink between sunset and sunrise and pray a lot as a test of faith and soul cleansing.

Not my cup of tea, but I wouldn't call it lunacy.

No you are right to be pedantic Hatfield.

I'm just bitter because I had a £10 on it to snow.

My post on the origins and history of ramadan has been deleted, how very strange

Thanks all. Stay safe.

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morpheus2 wrote:My post on the origins and history of ramadan has been deleted, how very strange

It may have been merged ! Don't know what with, but it may have been merged. I read it though
so my enjoyment hasn't been spoiled.

I work within a team of 16, four of which are Asian, all of the Asian workers are useless and cause more work for the rest of us.

Funkydrummer wrote:It may have been merged ! Don't know what with, but it may have been merged. I read it though
so my enjoyment hasn't been spoiled.

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope you found it informative.
I'm not sure what the moderator would find so offensive though that it had to be censored, I really don't believe that people should be able to pick and choose what history should be shared with others.
If you want whitewashed versions of selected parts of history you read The Guardian, one has to go elsewhere for the truth, particularly if it is an uncomfortable truth.

Nice sausage butty this morning and a Cheese and Ham quiche for tea... washed down with a few Stellas.

Happy Mubarak to you all!

Diesel wrote:I work within a team of 16, four of which are Asian, all of the Asian workers are useless and cause more work for the rest of us.

Is that because they are **** at their job or because they are 'Asian'?

Diesel wrote:I work within a team of 16, four of which are Asian, all of the Asian workers are useless and cause more work for the rest of us.

Is that so....

Lol some tetchy people on here.