Volvo - From 2019 all new models will be Hybrid or Fully Electric

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:18 pm

Falcon wrote:I don't think you've been using the charging stations correctly mate

I was highlighting the passage "So - I had to buy an ex demonstrator instead - 11 months old Civic 1.6 DTEC Sport with 1707 miles on the clock (black with black alloys and privacy glass - mid life crisis drug dealer look for me"

Don't use the charging stations generally sniff the petrol pumps

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:21 pm

I know. Just thought it was funny to smudge the comment on the drug dealer (alleged) with the theme of the thread

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:22 pm

Here it is... I should be OK, the other half says its an old man's car dressed up as a chav...

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:31 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Make sure they get the figures right for charging as the emissions will increase at the power station

Not that you questioned it but I want to point out that energy conversion is much more efficient in power stations.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:42 pm

Can't wait to be driving around in a Milkfloat.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:15 pm

dougcollins wrote:Can't wait to be driving around in a Milkfloat.

Nice milkfloat

https://youtu.be/5fm8544qTWU?t=1m31s

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:57 pm

dougcollins wrote:Can't wait to be driving around in a Milkfloat.

You a milkfloat enthusiast or is that sarcasm? You do know that there are other options in the electric car sector?

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:05 pm

Falcon wrote:You a milkfloat enthusiast or is that sarcasm? You do know that there are other options in the electric car sector?

Sinclair C4?

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:08 pm

Foshiznik wrote:Sinclair C4?

Explosively quick.

The Sinclair C5 fared no better.

The Smart ForTwo Electric Drive is tickling my fancy. The £20K price tag is not, however.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:12 pm

ClaretEngineer wrote:Explosively quick. The Sinclair C5 fared no better.

The Smart ForTwo Electric Drive is tickling my fancy. The £20K price tag is not, however.

I didn't notice my mistake until you posted!

I want to have a look at the BMW i5 when it comes out but i think it's going to be priced nearer the i7 than the i3.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:17 pm

Foshiznik wrote:I didn't notice my mistake until you posted!

I want to have a look at the BMW i5 when it comes out but i think it's going to be priced nearer the i7 than the i3.

They are prices too high to have any meaningful impact on the market.

For me its getting to work at the least possible cost to me. If one day its an electric car so be it, until then it'll be a diesel mass polluter.

Or not as suggested here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-41640746" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:42 am

ClaretEngineer wrote:They are prices too high to have any meaningful impact on the market.

For me its getting to work at the least possible cost to me. If one day its an electric car so be it, until then it'll be a diesel mass polluter.

Or not as suggested here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-41640746" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I would love to buy a Tesla. If bought before the end of the month, you will get unlimited charges for free. If not you would get the first 1000 miles a year. Problem is, they require a £12k deposit!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:34 am

Foshiznik wrote:I would love to buy a Tesla. If bought before the end of the month, you will get unlimited charges for free. If not you would get the first 1000 miles a year. Problem is, they require a £12k deposit!

That deposit is very nearly what I paid for my "new" Civic further up the thread...! I like Tesla's too, but they really need to be a little more affordable and have a greater range. I wouldn't be able to do a 500+ mile round trip from home to Burnley on one fill up like I can with my diesel Civic.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:48 am

Rick_Muller wrote:That deposit is very nearly what I paid for my "new" Civic further up the thread...! I like Tesla's too, but they really need to be a little more affordable and have a greater range. I wouldn't be able to do a 500+ mile round trip from home to Burnley on one fill up like I can with my diesel Civic.

To be fair, the Tesla does approx 350 miles on a full charge. That's not bad compared to it's rivals.

Anyone seen this? It's a Polestar 1 coupe unveiled yesterday. It is a luxury sub-brand created by Volvo. The 5 door version is meant to be the biggest rival so far to Tesla.

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:51 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:I've been in two friend's Tesla cars. Expensive but very nice. Apparently new models only come with free charging for first 3 years. Previous offer was for lifetime of the car.

And that's only if a current Tesla owner refers you.
The model 3 comes to the UK in 2018 I think, definitely worth a look at the price.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:16 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/a ... ealed.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting concept don't you think?
Fully electric hypercar....

Looks effing stunning!!!!!!!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:19 pm

Sidney1st wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/a ... ealed.html

Interesting concept don't you think?
Fully electric hypercar....

Looks effing stunning!!!!!!!

Interesting indeed mate, but it reads like its real when it isn't and its all just a concept at the moment.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:20 pm

Sidney1st wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/a ... ealed.html

Interesting concept don't you think?
Fully electric hypercar....

Looks effing stunning!!!!!!!

It'll look nowt like that once the bean counters get hold of it.

Those rims are just begging to be kerbed!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:22 pm

Yes it is, BUT it shows that the super car companies are taking it all seriously.
Also, some of their technological advances can trickle down the chain, like it does from F1.

ABS, Power Steering and Turbos all came from F1.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:25 pm

Turbo's are not from F1 - Circa 1905.

Active suspension as employed by Renault was banned because it was too effective. Same as most things not invented by Ferrari

Battery technology is the sticking point here.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:26 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -Ohio.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

At last, electric vans are being tested, this will help us all.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:27 pm

Sidney1st wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -Ohio.html

At last, electric vans are being tested, this will help us all.

I feel this is what we should be concentrating on. I said as much when an Electric Vehicle company was displaying at an open day at my Uni some years back.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:30 pm

Foshiznik wrote:To be fair, the Tesla does approx 350 miles on a full charge. That's not bad compared to it's rivals.

Anyone seen this? It's a Polestar 1 coupe unveiled yesterday. It is a luxury sub-brand created by Volvo. The 5 door version is meant to be the biggest rival so far to Tesla.

I'm a big Volvo fan so obviously biased, but that is sexy as

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:01 pm

Falcon wrote:I'm a big Volvo fan so obviously biased, but that is sexy as

...an Audi A5.

Volvo have clearly copied Audi.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:03 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Here it is... I should be OK, the other half says its an old man's car dressed up as a chav...

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Nice but You can expect to be stopped by Old Bill ever couple of weeks.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:06 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:...an Audi A5.

Volvo have clearly copied Audi.

Most sincere form of flattery. I like Audis too btw. Just not their drivers

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:12 pm

Falcon wrote:Most sincere form of flattery. I like Audis too btw. Just not their drivers

That would be me, Falcon.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:36 pm

Sidney1st wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -Ohio.html

At last, electric vans are being tested, this will help us all.

UPS uses a load of electric vans in London. The issue causing difficulties in the deployment is the power capabilities of the depot, trying to charge all of the vehicles together was causing issues in the power grid in the area.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:35 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:That would be me, Falcon.

And me...

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:38 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Yes it is, BUT it shows that the super car companies are taking it all seriously.
Also, some of their technological advances can trickle down the chain, like it does from F1.

ABS, Power Steering and Turbos all came from F1.

Non of them came from F1, The French had tubos on fighters in WW1, ABS on planes in the early 50s too, though there were primitive versions much earlier, power steering 19th century.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:47 pm

I'm referring to the adaptations for cars.

69 WALLOP · Post by **69 WALLOP** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:08 pm

I plug mine into a lamp post every night as it’s free.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:17 pm

Do they have a theoretical maximum speed at which they can charge it? I can fill up a petrol car in two minutes. Electric cars at present are nowhere near that time, but will that get down to two minutes or somewhere near, as the technology improves?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:21 pm

I think they've got some down to a few hours.

Eventually I suspect charging points will also change and that could be due to how phones are charged.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the same principle of a charging plate in the ground and the car just parks on top of it and it charges up with no cables.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:28 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I think they've got some down to a few hours.

Eventually I suspect charging points will also change and that could be due to how phones are charged.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the same principle of a charging plate in the ground and the car just parks on top of it and it charges up with no cables.

Induction charging I think it’s called. That’s got to be the future I’d imagine, but less efficient as energy is lost as it transfers from the ground to the battery.

Edit - there are different speeds of charging so for example a supermarket may have rapid charge points which provide a decent charge in an hour whereas domestic chargers will be utilised over night.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:42 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I'm referring to the adaptations for cars.

ABS on Jensen FF in 1966, late 80s early 90s in F1. BMW 2002 Turbo 1973, Renault Turbo F1 1977. Power Steering Chrysler Imperial 1951.

HOPE AND GLORY · Post by **HOPE AND GLORY** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:11 am

Free wind turbine with every volvo .

Ightenclaret · Post by **Ightenclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:30 am

bet the moose are happy

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:47 am

yorkyclaret wrote:ABS on Jensen FF in 1966, late 80s early 90s in F1. BMW 2002 Turbo 1973, Renault Turbo F1 1977. Power Steering Chrysler Imperial 1951.

I actually get what Sid is saying. He's referring to the development and perfection of the technologies discussed. Without F1, these technologies wouldn't be as advanced or efficient as they currently are. KERS is the same, without F1 we wouldn't have made the rapid developments in the KERS technology that is now presenting in hybrid cars.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:38 am

Same with electric braking, electric motors over all and power recovery that's being created for the super cars.
A lot of this stuff is filtered down from the racing cars of various types.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:16 am

Sidney1st wrote:Same with electric braking, electric motors over all and power recovery that's being created for the super cars.
A lot of this stuff is filtered down from the racing cars of various types.

Williams did a lot of stuff with Williams Hybrid Power, don't think they ended up using most of the tech in F1 and sold the company to GKN after it was starting to be used in buses.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:05 pm

Mate of mine just taken delivery of the falcon wing model X. Putard hasn’t let me drive it yet.

Watch one of them here upstage a Lamborghini - funny
https://youtu.be/LRnyqB4XPnY

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:09 pm

NRC wrote:Mate of mine just taken delivery of the falcon wing model X. Putard hasn’t let me drive it yet.

Watch one of them here upstage a Lamborghini - funny
https://youtu.be/LRnyqB4XPnY

It would have been bloody hilarious if one of the cyclists was hit in the head by one of the doors...

I've looked at the Tesla's in the INTU centre in MK and they do look very nice - the Model X was supremely comfortable to sit in.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:38 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I actually get what Sid is saying. He's referring to the development and perfection of the technologies discussed. Without F1, these technologies wouldn't be as advanced or efficient as they currently are. KERS is the same, without F1 we wouldn't have made the rapid developments in the KERS technology that is now presenting in hybrid cars.

That's a matter of opinion, I am stating facts.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:50 pm

I like my models to have big tits and a bit of meat on them,not skinny and long thin legs,not hybrid or fully electric

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:28 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... akers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"California regulators are embracing a General Motors recommendation that would help makers of self-driving cars avoid paying for accidents and other trouble, raising concerns that the proposal will put an unfair burden on vehicle owners.
If adopted, the regulations drafted by the California Department of Motor Vehicles would protect these carmakers from lawsuits in cases where vehicles haven't been maintained according to manufacturer specifications."

Interesting proposal, people like to keep costs down on vehicle maintanence as it is with normal cars.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:36 pm

Tesla have unveiled their massive Semi

and also their $200k pocket rocket

CanuckClaret · Post by **CanuckClaret** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:52 pm

dsr wrote:Do they have a theoretical maximum speed at which they can charge it? I can fill up a petrol car in two minutes. Electric cars at present are nowhere near that time, but will that get down to two minutes or somewhere near, as the technology improves?

Fisker claims to be working on a solid-state battery, which will cost a third the price of current offerings, be more efficient - range of 500 miles and will only take 1 minute to charge...

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/ca ... ute-charge

69 WALLOP wrote:I plug mine into a lamp post every night as it’s free.

You may joke, but... https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/ca ... -pollution

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:41 am

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:30 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... dster.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Shiny..... and bloody quick