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We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:34 pm
by ablueclaret
unless the other signings inject some pace into the squad.

Our weakness is being pedestrian, we appear to be intensifying that attribute.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:36 pm
by claretspice
By signing Jon Walters, who is fairly quick, and Charlie Taylor, who is certainly not slow?

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:36 pm
by CoolClaret
I bet you are a virgin.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 pm
by Paul Waine
ablueclaret wrote:unless the other signings inject some pace into the squad.

Our weakness is being pedestrian, we appear to be intensifying that attribute.
How does it go? "Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart...."

It's not done Anfield any harm.

UTC

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 pm
by Sidney1st
Jbg, Brady, Lowton.... All complete snails when running :lol:

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:38 pm
by HunterST_BFC
I wish ablue would stop being so negative All the time........

Give it a rest.
Post fewer threads.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:38 pm
by fidelcastro
Sidney1st wrote:Jbg, Brady, Lowton.... All complete snails when running :lol:
And Gray?

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:02 pm
by ablueclaret
We will probably lose Gray.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:03 pm
by ablueclaret
Taylor probably won't make the side, and Walters is no hare.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:05 pm
by CnBtruntru
I wish you was slower at posting Ablue FFS.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:08 pm
by john'sroseyspecs
So, there's no hare here?

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:48 pm
by tim_noone
Slow...is the new fast.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:12 am
by Saxoman
ablueclaret wrote:Taylor probably won't make the side, and Walters is no hare.
Gnohare? That takes me back.. :lol:

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:39 am
by Wile E Coyote
premier league football is not a speed thing alone, yes, there have been quick sides like arsenal when Henry was king, but it is more a chess game thesedays.
Burnley have countered rapid teams effectively with a plan. Players like Boyd were no spring chicken, but he stoically went about his usiness for the cause and usually came out top on ground covered.
Dyche wants a team in the true sense, he has proved that his squads can make the grade, even with elderly footballers amongst the ranks.
Not really an issue for me about the lack of 21 year old 100 metre in ten second wingers, because we normally cannot cross for toffee when they hit the line.
We will be hard to beat, a few veteran campaigners added to the mix will pay dividends next season.
Plenty time left to add a few as well, more than confident this time around UTC.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:56 am
by tybfc
ablueclaret wrote:We will probably lose Gray.
I wish he would put you in the passenger seat on his way out without your laptop

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:13 am
by HarryPottsDesk
Is it possible for ablueclaret to have an uninteresting, negative thought without needing to articulate it on here?

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:57 am
by ExistentialWanderer
HarryPottsDesk wrote:Is it possible for ablueclaret to have an uninteresting, negative thought without needing to articulate it on here?
There'll be a national holiday declared when he posts something positive about the club.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:54 am
by bartons baggage
ablueclaret wrote:unless the other signings inject some pace into the squad.

Our weakness is being pedestrian, we appear to be intensifying that attribute.
And once again you show the forum you know nothing about Burnley Football Club.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:16 am
by ExistentialWanderer
bartons baggage wrote:And once again you show the forum you know nothing about Burnley Football Club.
Or football in general. You don't need particularly pacy players to be successful. As long as you can retain the ball and use it effectively you don't need speed. You can let the ball do the work and conserve energy. Of course we don't have that many players capable of doing that effectively, hence why we have to work extra hard and play a pressing game. What ablueclaret wants is immediate success, Messi'esque players and tikka takka. We're a club on the up but going through transition which will take a good few years to develop, assuming we manage to stay up.
I am an advocate of pace as it's something else in the locker as an alternative from Plan A, but if we can bring in technically better players. It does nullify the need slightly as we'll be able to retain the ball and be more effective a unit. Hence why I think Walters is an improvement. He has the guile and the technical nouse to know when to slow the game down, speed it up, hold the ball, overall just a more steady player, even at his age.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:32 am
by BennyD
They can't be any slower than ablue.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:39 am
by FulledgeClaret
ablueclaret wrote:unless the other signings inject some pace into the squad.

Our weakness is being pedestrian, we appear to be intensifying that attribute.
Its all part of master plan to start a walking football team, just a few players to get out the door first but then world domination awaits.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:39 am
by RocketLawnChair
I disagree ABC, I don't think our weak area is lack of pace I think its ball retention, I also believe SD wants us to get better at this too. You can skirt around the pitch at a million mph all game but if you haven't got the ******* ball it doesn't really matter.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:40 am
by 3putt
The speed we will miss is that of Keene. As well as being a very accomplished player, he has rapid pace for a Central defender hardly ever getting out paced by quick opposition players.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:51 am
by CFS
3putt wrote:The speed we will miss is that of Keene. As well as being a very accomplished player, he has rapid pace for a Central defender hardly ever getting out paced by quick opposition players.
Have to agree with this and on many occasions he bailed out ben mee. Need to build up some height in the backline.
As for pace in the team Liverpool were one of thee quickest teams last year but got stunned with a fairly lethal counter attack by us as did a few teams. It's about how you go about counter attacking as opposed to having players who can run fast but we have brady JBG Gray who can punish teams.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:01 am
by Blackrod
We have to have pace in the team and improve ball retention.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:11 am
by LoveCurryPies
Ablueclaret, This time last year you were writing similar negative headlines and posts.

Against all your predictions, the team were mid table for much of the season and we are now facing a second year in the Premier League. With several weeks to recruit new players and substantial funds in the bank account to make sure there are some quality signing....how on Earth can you write a headline like "We could have one of our slowest sides ever".

Your daily negativity is draining.

So here is a thought...."We could have one of our fastest sides ever". UTC!

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:20 am
by Culmclaret
Not much pace in, for example, 83/4. 84/5, 85/6, 86/7, 87/8. We then had the John Francis years, but let's resume, for the sake of argument in 94/5,95/6, 96/7,97/8...yeah you are right, one of the slowest sides ever

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:21 am
by ExistentialWanderer
LoveCurryPies wrote:
Against all your predictions, the team were mid table for much of the season
The first weekend aside, we were never in the relegation zone all season. That's a positive in itself. Ablue needs to see a positive for every negative. We're doing alright considering.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:37 am
by Goalposts
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Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:42 am
by Ashingtonclaret46
We may have the slowest side ever, however, we can always claim to have the 'fan' who will always be the quickest off the mark when it comes to crticism and finding fault with the club.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:54 am
by Leisure
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:We may have the slowest side ever, however, we can always claim to have the 'fan' who will always be the quickest off the mark when it comes to crticism and finding fault with the club.
Seconded!

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:56 pm
by Falcon
This thread is utterly pointless until the end of August

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:03 pm
by Tall Paul
Falcon wrote:This thread is utterly pointless
Fixed.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:31 pm
by Sleeping Cat
Speed is relative to the division you're playing in and teams/players you come up against, but to suggest this may be our slowest side EVER could not be more wrong and I would actually think the opposite based on the fact that players near the top of the league pyramid tend to be fitter and quicker than those towards the bottom.

e.g. these players from the 99 squad; Ronnie Jepson, Mitchel Thomas, Paul cook, Andy Cooke, Gordon Armstrong, Lenny Johnrose, Chris Brass, Paul Weller, Paul Smith are by far slower than anyone in the current squad.

I would even suggest that almost all of the current squad (inc Walters) are quicker than these 1st team players from the 2014/15 squad; Steven Reid, Matt Taylor, Mike Duff, Ross Wallace, Lukas Jutkiewicz.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:33 pm
by get stuck in tracy
ablueclaret wrote:unless the other signings inject some pace into the squad.

Our weakness is being pedestrian, we appear to be intensifying that attribute.
"WE"

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:37 pm
by boatshed bill
Sleeping Cat wrote:Speed is relative to the division you're playing in and teams/players you come up against, but to suggest this may be our slowest side EVER could not be more wrong and I would actually think the opposite based on the fact that players near the top of the league pyramid tend to be fitter and quicker than those towards the bottom.

e.g. these players from the 99 squad; Ronnie Jepson, Mitchel Thomas, Paul cook, Andy Cooke, Gordon Armstrong, Lenny Johnrose, Chris Brass, Paul Weller, Paul Smith are by far slower than anyone in the current squad.

I would even suggest that almost all of the current squad (inc Walters) are quicker than these 1st team players from the 2014/15 squad; Steven Reid, Matt Taylor, Mike Duff, Ross Wallace, Lukas Jutkiewicz.

Not a bad assessment at all.

Re: We could have one of our slowest sides ever

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:57 pm
by pureclaret
August 2015/16 season AB is right again to slow not enough quality and a board and manager with no direction or commitment relegated by Christmas!!!!.
May 2016 AB is right although some how we managed to get promotion it was down to other bad teams and the mismanagement of the other teams!!!!.
August 2016/17 AB right again with his predictions poor quality team to slow not enough quality and a board and manager with no direction or commitment SD will be sacked by November team will be relegated by Christmas!!!!
May 2017 AB right again although we avoided relegation and SD still here poor other management and teams not good enough SD will be gone before pre-season.

Ah AB I see a pattern if you post enough mud at a wall eventually some sticks, but what poor way to build anything.