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did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:10 pm
by todclaret
because if so, this may become a significant development for us

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Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:14 pm
by tybfc
Well written headline!

Kyle Walker: Man City sign close to signing Tottenham right-back

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:22 pm
by Funkydrummer
Interesting to see that they haven't started pre-season training yet !

Are we early, or are they late ?

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:46 pm
by Wokingclaret
"did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?"

We don't

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:16 pm
by Sidney1st
He's just signed a new 5 yr deal so at a guess a sell on would be void.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:19 pm
by RocketLawnChair
The deal we had for Trippier on the face of it would seem quite the opposite to having add ons etc, Trips had a relatively small release clause allowing to move on pretty quickly.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:19 pm
by ElectroClaret
Fifty mil for Walker, Jesus.

Come a long way since the play off Final.

Not sure why Walker moving to City would trigger owt for us
regarding Trips, though. Or am i missing summat?

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:21 pm
by Chester Perry
Surely the Question is did Shef Utd have a sell on clause - should help them through the summer window

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:29 pm
by Rick_Muller
ElectroClaret wrote:Not sure why Walker moving to City would trigger owt for us
regarding Trips, though. Or am i missing summat?
Might be in reference to appearances for Spurs...???

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:38 pm
by ElectroClaret
Rick_Muller wrote:Might be in reference to appearances for Spurs...???
Right. I see. Thought we might be due something now for whatever reason.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:53 pm
by pureclaret
Oh no Im going to be in such sht now.
My story starts with my wife having gone out on grandchildren siting for a few hours tonight so I though I could chill out get a drink and sit in our back garden. I was pouring a glass of Rioja when saw the news about Walker going to Manchester City for £50 million, was so stunned poured more than a glass full all over the conservatory carpet. But how the fck can he be worth £50 million if Tripper was £3million and keane £30million.
Now on hands and knees cleaning with vanish.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:55 pm
by Sidney1st
Trippier had clause in his contract.

Walker is first choice right back for England, was first choice for Spurs and vastly more experienced than both Trippier and Keane.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:56 pm
by KippaxFifaHD
Chester Perry wrote:Surely the Question is did Shef Utd have a sell on clause - should help them through the summer window
According to sky sports they had a 10% sell on clause

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:04 pm
by IanMcL
'Trippier had clause in his contract'


Santa Clause?

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:07 pm
by Sidney1st
No, just a clause that meant he could go for a low ish fee.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:18 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Sidney1st wrote:He's just signed a new 5 yr deal so at a guess a sell on would be void.
Why would it be void?

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:42 pm
by Sidney1st
They can become void after the end of the first contract.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:48 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Surely any club that's agrees to buy a player with a sell on fee could just offer the player a new contract the day after signing them?

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:50 pm
by DCWat
pureclaret wrote:Oh no Im going to be in such sht now.
My story starts with my wife having gone out on grandchildren siting for a few hours tonight so I though I could chill out get a drink and sit in our back garden. I was pouring a glass of Rioja when saw the news about Walker going to Manchester City for £50 million, was so stunned poured more than a glass full all over the conservatory carpet. But how the fck can he be worth £50 million if Tripper was £3million and keane £30million.
Now on hands and knees cleaning with vanish.
Salt, salt and more salt. Sucks it all up.

Just don't vacuum it up, otherwise it'll solidify in your cleaner!

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:58 pm
by Sidney1st
Bordeauxclaret wrote:Surely any club that's agrees to buy a player with a sell on fee could just offer the player a new contract the day after signing them?
Its been explained on here by someone else before.

They can't get round it like that.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:02 pm
by Paul Waine
Evening Standard reports that Spurs are in for Ricardo Pereira, FC Porto. £22 million asking. Pochettino wants "another right back to provide competition for Trippier."

Great for Trips status - bought for £3.5 million (?), signs a new 5 year contract - the guy he is replacing is sold for £50 million - and his "competition" for right back is bought for £22 million.

BTW: No add-ons when buying club meets the release clause. And, if there were add-ons, these can be limited to on-sale within a fixed period, so dealing with the "early new contract" scenario.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:37 am
by aggi
Bordeauxclaret wrote:Surely any club that's agrees to buy a player with a sell on fee could just offer the player a new contract the day after signing them?
Generally taken to be the original life of the first contract

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:12 am
by claptrappers_union
ElectroClaret wrote:Fifty mil for Walker, Jesus. Come a long way since the play off Final
Can you imagine someone from the future telling you that a player on that Wembley pitch will have a transfer value of over £50m. You couldn't guess who it was and you would've thought he was mad.

"Is it Jay Rodriguez?"

"No, he's only worth £12m"

" :o "

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:17 am
by Bordeauxclaret
aggi wrote:Generally taken to be the original life of the first contract
So unless Trippier signed a two year deal with Spurs any clause we put it would presumably still be active?

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:51 am
by ClaretTony
aggi wrote:Generally taken to be the original life of the first contract
Not so sure of that at all. We certainly picked up money for Jay Rod on appearances during his second Southampton contract. And I believe we get something now on his West Brom transfer.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:11 am
by taio
Would be absurd if any sell-on clause is only relevant to the player's initial contract with their new club, and expires upon contract renewal. It would defeat the object entirely. Where has this happened before?

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:20 am
by ClaretTony
I remember us getting money when Cardiff sold Alan Lee to Ipswich some six years after we'd sold him to Rotherham.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:38 am
by aggi
It's not always the case, it's all part of the negotiation. 10% of the sell-on profit in perpetuity or 15% but only applying to the first contract, etc.

Contracts are much more complicated nowadays, both clubs are pushing back trying to get the best deal.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:59 pm
by Rick_Muller
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Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:34 am
by Formerbfcmanager
People getting confused between contracts here. There are 2 separate contracts involved.

One is a contract between the selling club and the buying club. This will state all the ins and outs of the transfer, including when payments are due, add ons, sell ons etc.

The other is a contract between the player and his new club. This covers "personal terms" - length of deal, wages, signing on fee, bonuses etc. The 2 contracts are independent from each other.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:16 pm
by quoonbeatz
trippier has signed a new 5 year contract at spurs.

Re: did we have any add ons in the deal with Spurs for Trippier?

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:25 pm
by ClaretTony
Formerbfcmanager wrote:People getting confused between contracts here. There are 2 separate contracts involved.

One is a contract between the selling club and the buying club. This will state all the ins and outs of the transfer, including when payments are due, add ons, sell ons etc.

The other is a contract between the player and his new club. This covers "personal terms" - length of deal, wages, signing on fee, bonuses etc. The 2 contracts are independent from each other.
That he has signed a new deal at Spurs will make no difference to any add ons we might have negotiated at the time of the transfer.