Dunkirk

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:53 pm

They have done a very good job imo with this film. Now to look up just how "real" the individual characters were, although it does feel like a few could be painted with broad brushstrokes to pull together several accounts

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Are there any boobs?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Are there any boobs?

Well, Harry Styles always looks a bit of a tit to me.....

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:19 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Well, Harry Styles always looks a bit of a tit to me.....

One for the prick list

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:26 pm

There are only a couple of women and no lead actors of colour - may rub some the wrong way.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:13 pm

morpheus2 wrote:There are only a couple of women and no lead actors of colour - may rub some the wrong way.

My late father in law was at Dunkirk.I cannot recall him regaling incidents of the one legged supressed black lesbian pacifists sheltering in the dunes whilst eating vegan snacks .

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:28 pm

bfcjg wrote:My late father in law was at Dunkirk.I cannot recall him regaling incidents of the one legged supressed black lesbian pacifists sheltering in the dunes whilst eating vegan snacks .

That's not to say they weren't there though is it? He might not have seen them if they were sheltering in the dunes eating tofu.

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:32 pm

Looking forward to seeing this.
My uncle was in the BEF at Dunkirk and managed to make it back. He came back to Burnley and hadn't had a bath for weeks, his uniform was in shreds and he was suffering traumA.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:48 pm

bfcjg wrote:My late father in law was at Dunkirk

Maybe if he'd have been on time he'd have had less trouble getting on a boat.....

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:51 pm

I've just watched it. Me and both my daughter's loved it. Minimal BS which was refreshing. A very good story told around the events. A very good old skool war film imo.

And a nice bit of Elgar to finish

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:22 pm

Is there a decent version on Kodi yet? Will struggle to get the Mrs to go to the cinema to watch "a bloody war film".

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:34 pm

morpheus2 wrote:There are only a couple of women and no lead actors of colour - may rub some the wrong way.

Already has

http://www.betootaadvocate.com/world-ne ... male-cast/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:34 pm

Just this minute got home after watching it and it is a very well made and acted film

8/10

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:35 pm

Bloody hell, I'd have gone and watched it if it was a 9 from you, MK

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:36 pm

DCWat, Terrarium TV is the only site I've seen it on, but there's no data loaded up as yet
when you click on the thumbnail. Shouldn't be long before it's on. Haven't seen it anywhere else yet, others might have.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:16 pm

DCWat wrote:Is there a decent version on Kodi yet? Will struggle to get the Mrs to go to the cinema to watch "a bloody war film".

You will be looking at at least 4 weeks, and if it's an British film release longer than that

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:34 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:I've just watched it. Me and both my daughter's loved it. Minimal BS which was refreshing. A very good story told around the events. A very good old skool war film imo.

And a nice bit of Elgar to finish

Sounds a good watch.

I have a question though.

Do the action scenes change camera angle that much (like modern films tend to do) that you are unable to watch it properly?

You know, like enough to give someone who has never suffered from epilepsy, an epileptic fit.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:42 pm

Always look forward to the next Nolan film, going to see it at the IMAX tomorrow can't wait.

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:09 pm

Just seen it...7/10 for me. Superb visually and relentlessly action packed. Top atmospheric score too. Just prefer more plot-driven films. Tbh Harry Styles being in it was a hard one for me to get past in terms of staying immersed in the film.
There is a brilliant Dunkirk section in the film of Ian McEwan's novel Atonement which I would also recommend for anyone interested in the subject.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:14 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Already has

http://www.betootaadvocate.com/world-ne ... male-cast/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah I know, I was quoting Brian Truitt from USA today....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/mov ... 482574001/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:45 am

Saw it last night. There are no words to describe what those men went through. A great film.

Lest we forget x

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:12 am

Want to watch this. My Grandpa was there, so it will be interesting to see what he went through.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:14 am

Haven't seen it yet but looking forward to doing so.
Only realised recently that many of the 'little ships' that rescued the men from the beaches made several return trips often under constant attack , such incredible bravery from all concerned especially as they were mostly civilians.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:15 am

ElectroClaret wrote:DCWat, Terrarium TV is the only site I've seen it on, but there's no data loaded up as yet
when you click on the thumbnail. Shouldn't be long before it's on. Haven't seen it anywhere else yet, others might have.

I know some struggle to get to the cinema for whatever reason, but this is a film that really should be seen on the big screen

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:16 am

I can't take this film seriously with Harry Styles in it.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:21 am

My brother worked on this film / he does the special effects and has been raving about it. To get the full effect of the film you need to see it in an IMAX.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:35 am

This was a good film too:

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ebby · Post by **ebby** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:45 am

Saw the movie on Thursday.
Agree it needs to be seen on the big screen.
It's a good film, however, I don't think its as good as Saving Private Ryan or Black Hawke Down by a long way.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:55 am

Very good film. Gritty, authentic and downbeat for the most part. Glad it eschewed the cheesiness of many American war films for something more understated and yet very stoic all the same.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:04 am

Harry Styles is actually quite good tbf.

ngsobob · Post by **ngsobob** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:03 am

Saw it last night at the IMEX. Stunning, emotionally drained by the end. Wonderful Spitfire footage. Superb score too. Just bought the paperback by Hugh Sebag-Montefiore, Dunkirk - Fight to the Last Man, which tells the full story including those left behind holding back the Germans. Best to be friends than enemies.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:39 am

I saw this last night and I thought it was brilliant. Definitely not the typical war epic but it builds the story and the tension throughout to a stunning ending. I read the Sebag-Montefiore book on Dunkirk when I was at college and doing a project on the Battle of France (of which Dunkirk was the conclusion), good book and I'd recommend that too.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:57 pm

Slightly off topic but on a WW2 theme, disappointed to read that the proposed Peter Jackson re-make of The Dambusters has been shelved for the time being.

Apparently it is still going to happen 'sometime' but meanwhile they are concentrating on churning out more of the 'fantasy genre' pap that seems popular at the moment.

Bop · Post by **Bop** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:58 pm

Going next week. Bit worried about blubbing. One grandfather died on HMS Grenade when stukas sunk it. Other grandfather was up to his neck in the water for hours and was eventually rescued. Just hope it does them both proud.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:01 pm

That sounds a particularly inappropriate name for a ship, especially when you near in mind what happened to it.

Bop · Post by **Bop** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:07 pm

Yup. I suppose it does! Arthur was chief petty officer stoker. I'd like to think one of the bombs that went down the funnels hit him directly, as opposed to the horror stories about those caught on deck or close by in the water. It nearly sunk blocking the harbour and had to be towed away to allow others to escape, before its ammunition went up and it finally sank.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:40 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:Slightly off topic but on a WW2 theme, disappointed to read that the proposed Peter Jackson re-make of The Dambusters has been shelved for the time being.

When they get round to making it, wonder what theyll call the dog?

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:46 pm

My dad was at Dunkirk, or more precisely, in his case departing from nearby La Panne. He came home on leave in April 1940, for four days married mum, and after the honeymoon at Blackpool got the train back to his regiment and the invasion with mum running down the platform waving good bye. He told me a story of him driving a vehicle down a field by a tall hedge in France when they heard a noise over the other side, looked over and saw a major group of German troops. Don't think they hung around. The officer with him was a local legend and solicitor, Captain 'Smokey Joe,' Southern who was a solicitor in Burnley after the war. He ended up in Burma in the 'forgotten 14th.' I think it was the best and worst time of his life.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:49 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:When they get round to making it, wonder what theyll call the dog?

Stephen Fry was doing the script(he mentions it in his autobiography 'The Fry Cronicles'). He'd settled on the name Digger. This was incidentally the name I settled on in 1999 when I bought a black Labrador pup and wanted to name it in honour of Guy Gibson's ill fated hound. It didn't suffer the same premature death as Gibson's and lived to the ripe old age of 13.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:00 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lightoller" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tangential to the Dunkirk story is the interesting tale of Charles Lightoller who, in late middle age, sailed his own boat to Dunkirk to rescue stranded soldiers.

This man's Life Story would make a gripping film.

mohamed69 · Post by **mohamed69** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:01 pm

I was a little disappointed not to see any brown faces tbh, considering the role of indians and Muslims in the war.

mohamed69 · Post by **mohamed69** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:29 pm

bfcjg wrote:My late father in law was at Dunkirk.I cannot recall him regaling incidents of the one legged supressed black lesbian pacifists sheltering in the dunes whilst eating vegan snacks .

There were 4 Indian companies at Dunkirk. I'm sure your late father in law would've been aware of this.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:37 pm

Can I just say to all the posters who lost family in this event that my family's gratitude for their sacrifice is boundless

enduroclaret · Post by **enduroclaret** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:57 pm

I saw it at Northwich Odeon on Thursday, defiantly a film to see at the cinema, rather than a small screen.
I enjoyed it but I think more could have been done to convey the scale of the evacuation, 300,000+ soldiers.
I reckon there was never more than 1000/2000 men in any one scene, even though there was some big aerial shots of the beach.
Similarly, in the film the little boats armada was about 30 boats strong, when in reality there was over 700.
Use of computer generated imagery is very realistic these days, I just think the film missed an opportunity to really show the scale of the "Miracle" of Dunkirk.

ebby · Post by **ebby** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:55 pm

Enduroclaret, I would agree with you on the numbers.
To put across the number of boats involved as well as the troops, I too would have been happy to have them computer generated.
Likewise, there were very few vehicles on the beach which is not the case when you see original pictures of the event.
The movie doesnt give justice to the numbers actually incolved.

chorleyhere · Post by **chorleyhere** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:51 pm

Charles Lightoller lived in Yarrow House Chorley , a building which was demolished and the ground used to build St Albans (later Albany High School) just across the road from St George's Primary School where I used to teach. I had lived in Chorley for several years before I made the connection with his role in the Titanic and was astonished that he not only survived the horror of the Titanic but also the "Little ships" evacuation of Dunkirk.
My father grew up just round the corner from where the Wallace Hartley memorial is near the old Library in Colne. I feel there is a Titanic link following me around - so far I have survived 2 cruises without mishap!!!!!!!!!!!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:36 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Sounds a good watch.

I have a question though.

Do the action scenes change camera angle that much (like modern films tend to do) that you are unable to watch it properly?

You know, like enough to give someone who has never suffered from epilepsy, an epileptic fit.

Hello? Said the invisible man.

That's Wellernut off the Christmas card list.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:38 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Harry Styles is actually quite good tbf.

I have no problem with Harry Styles being cast in this...

" The Longest Day " cast three young American " Pop Stars " in roles... Fabian, Paul Anka and Tommy Sands... as well as Comedian Red Buttons !!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:40 pm

Bear in mind its a dramatisation, and that the vast majority of troops were lifted off the Mole by RN and French Destroyers.

Not my wifes thing at all, and not for the kids, so off to see it on my own next week.

"Dunkirk - Fight to the last man" is a cracking book at well.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:41 pm

It's disgusting that Harry Styles will be getting paid more for appearing this film than our real soliders did for fighting.