Sam Clucas

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:19 pm

Bid rejected today

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:22 pm

£500k and a giant twix?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:24 pm

Most likely. Apparently rejected straight away

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:27 pm

scouseclaret wrote:£500k and a giant twix?

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Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:28 pm

Decent player, played CM more often last season. Lack of pace but good technique.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:29 pm

Hope we go back in for him

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:30 pm

I will personally pay half the fee just to unstick claretspice from his obsession (no offence intended).

UTC!

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:30 pm

Not sure he's what we need, unless another player (Defour) is also leaving. Its pace and dash we need.

But he's a good player.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:36 pm

I can see the reasoning. A good technical work horse untility player.
Can play LM, RM, CM

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:38 pm

Although he's a decent player, I'm not sure another midfielder is what we need.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:39 pm

I think we are fine in the centre if Defour stays. Good player though.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:41 pm

Murger wrote:Although he's a decent player, I'm not sure another midfielder is what we need.

Remember when we used to have just Marney and Jones as centre midfielders?

Happy days.

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:42 pm

claretspice wrote:Not sure he's what we need, unless another player (Defour) is also leaving. Its pace and dash we need.

But he's a good player.

He's an upgrade on Arfield for me. Can play out wide and central. If we play a midfield 5 on a regular basis this season then Clucas would slot in nicely.

Central - Hendrick, Cork, Westwood, Defour, Marney, Clucas
Wingers - Arfield Brady JBG New.

That would see our midfield complete for me.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:45 pm

Boden seems to think he wants to play cm so he cant see it happening as were already well stocked

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:45 pm

Surely Tom Lawrence has to be worth a look at re a wide berth or Lookman on loan if available. Clucas would offer decent utility but not entirely sure he's what is required.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:46 pm

If we signed Clucas you'd think it'd be the end of Arfield's Burnley career.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:47 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Surely Tom Lawrence has to be worth a look .

You got a perfect look when he skied that sitter ..

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:52 pm

I've just liked a Saxoman post - I enjoyed him missing that sitter

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:05 am

agreenwood wrote:If we signed Clucas you'd think it'd be the end of Arfield's Burnley career.

You'd think that it'd be close.

We love you Scotty

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:09 am

How classy a midfield do we need to lump the ball up to Walters and Vokes?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:09 am

Saxoman wrote:You got a perfect look when he skied that sitter ..

Did you not see all them belters he scored last season ?

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:17 am

Saxoman wrote:You got a perfect look when he skied that sitter ..

Wow. Such a fond memory.

He should have been sent off for missing that

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:47 am

SkiptonClaret wrote:Surely Tom Lawrence has to be worth a look at re a wide berth or Lookman on loan if available. Clucas would offer decent utility but not entirely sure he's what is required.

wasn't a bid of about £18m for Lawwrence turned down at the start of the window - think it was Leicester

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:49 am

Chester Perry wrote:wasn't a bid of about £18m for Lawwrence turned down at the start of the window - think it was Leicester

Doubt they would be trying to buy their own player

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:51 am

Chester Perry wrote:wasn't a bid of about £18m for Lawwrence turned down at the start of the window - think it was Leicester

I think it was £8M

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:57 am

£8m from Derby

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:19 pm

Burnley have £5m bid for Sam Clucas rejected by Hull as Sean Dyche looks to spend £18.5m Andre Gray cash

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Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:38 pm

Clucas to replace Marney? Yes please.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:41 pm

Just said on sky that Hull value him @ £10m. Apparently we have offered £5m, not surprising really. Why oh why do we always make stupid offers that we know will be rejected? Utc

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:42 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Burnley have £5m bid for Sam Clucas rejected by Hull as Sean Dyche looks to spend £18.5m Andre Gray cash

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Hull.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

5 million....really?

I am not sure we need Clucas but I don't feel that is a realistic offer for him if we want him. You would need to at least double that.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:45 pm

Sam Clucas impressed me everytime I seen him play last year. If he signed it would be a big boost in all our midfielders would be comfortable on the ball at this level which has been a massive weakness in our previous two premier league seasons. It allowed teams to just sit back and play it around til it went to our weak link.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:46 pm

jedi_master wrote:5 million....really?

I am not sure we need Clucas but I don't feel that is a realistic offer for him if we want him. You would need to at least double that.

Yes, I'd have been surprised if we'd signed him for 5mil. Mind you, not sure I agree with the person who commented on the article saying that he's worth at least 20mil in today's market

Probably 10mil is about right.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:52 pm

He's a good player, and would arguably be our second best wide player too if Dyche chooses to play him there.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:58 pm

Certainly a Dyche type player. Not sure on his end product though, but he'll work his balls off, track back and help defend.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:01 pm

This would be a brilliant signing. Immensely strengthens us out wide while also bolsters an already impressive central midfield area. 12-15 million and he's ours, I reckon.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:01 pm

Is he in the last year of his contract?

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:04 pm

As a CM?

Yes please, would love to have him here, cash plus a triple choc or peanut butter Twix (they are available)

Although I'm not sure how we would fit him into a 25 man squad when Marney returns in January.

As a winger?

Not really.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:06 pm

Not a million miles away was I???

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:08 pm

I can see this happening, good addition if it does

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:08 pm

claretdj wrote:Just said on sky that Hull value him @ £10m. Apparently we have offered £5m, not surprising really. Why oh why do we always make stupid offers that we know will be rejected? Utc

A couple of days ago it was reported that Watford had offered just £8M for Gray. As Gray's eventual value would appear to be £18.5M surely Watford just made an absolutely stupid offer there. At least everything ended up OK.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:22 pm

bfcmik wrote:A couple of days ago it was reported that Watford had offered just £8M for Gray. As Gray's eventual value would appear to be £18.5M surely Watford just made an absolutely stupid offer there. At least everything ended up OK.

You're wasting your time bfcmik, some people clearly can't grasp the simple concept of negotiation.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:24 pm

scouseclaret wrote:£500k and a giant twix?

Why be so flippant? we all know we offer Giant Toblerones now we are a Premier League outfit!

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:36 pm

He's also played LB for about half a season when Dan Jones got injured and CF after Eoin Doyle got sold for a bit. I wouldn't say CF was his best (although he was better there than the double-barrelled overweight lump that Chesterfield had there the next season), but he worked well playing off Nando. If you substitute Vokes for Nando in front of a four in a 4-4-1-1 then he'll be fine. Probably more than fine bearing in mind that Nando was every bit a Div 2 player (playing in Div 1) and Vokes is class.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:41 pm

If we get him I think Defour will be on his way. Otherwse we would have gone from the utter ridiculousness of just Marney and Jones to SIX specialists in the middle.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:18 pm

People think we have too many CMs but if we play 4-5-1 we are 1 injury/suspension from playing Arfield in there or reverting back to 442. Clucas is a great Boyd Replacement.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:59 pm

summitclaret wrote:If we get him I think Defour will be on his way. Otherwse we would have gone from the utter ridiculousness of just Marney and Jones to SIX specialists in the middle.

Clucas and Defour are very different players. Although the way this window's looking it wouldn't surprise if we got rid of our creativity as well as our pace

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:17 pm

Isn't Clucas a winger?

BurnleyPaul · Post by **BurnleyPaul** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:19 pm

We have, as first choice CM- Cork, Westwood, Hendrick, and Defour. As "fallbacks" we have Arfield, Ulvestad and, when fit again, possibly Marney.

If we do move towards 4-5-1 as a formation then I'd say we're still light by 1 player. Especially as Ulvestad doesn't seem to be good enough and Arfield is coming into the last year of his contract and is seen as a player we should be looking at upgrading on. This isn't including injuries, suspensions to our first choice midfielders.

In fact even if we stick with 4-4-2 I'd say we want another midfielder in so that we can have effective options from the bench if we need to change things mid game.

I'd imagine that an up front fee of £7-8 million plus add-ons will see him join us.

Anybody know how close he is to Charlie Taylor? Possibility that he might be chatting to him and ncouragig him to make the move?

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:32 pm

Surely it would make more sense to go in for groseki

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:33 pm

If we are serious about getting Clucas in then suspect Dyche
may wish to have sufficent players available to mix up the formation/starting eleven.
Wheter it be 4-5-1 or possibly 4-3-3 or even the tried and tested 4-4-2.
Clucas could play in any of those formations and probably is an upgrade on Arfield within a 4-4-2.

Not sure we are serious but given it's Burnley I suppose the iniital bid
of 5m was to be expected as was Hull's response.
Can't see then letting him go for less than 8m with fairly substantial add-ons.

Presumably we (the club/chairman) must also realise that Hull aren't going to let him go
unless it's an offer they can't refuse. Hopefully wages wouldn't be an issue.

Be interesting to see whether we come back with a better offer?
Probably 6m + add-ons which, no doubt, will also be turned down.
Or whether Clucas is interested.

There may well be one or two other clubs who may wish to have him
and wouldn't wish to lose out on him as I do beleive he could improve the team.