Bid rejected today

£500k and a giant twix?

Most likely. Apparently rejected straight away

scouseclaret wrote:£500k and a giant twix?

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Decent player, played CM more often last season. Lack of pace but good technique.

Hope we go back in for him

I will personally pay half the fee just to unstick claretspice from his obsession (no offence intended).

UTC!

Not sure he's what we need, unless another player (Defour) is also leaving. Its pace and dash we need.

But he's a good player.

I can see the reasoning. A good technical work horse untility player.
Can play LM, RM, CM

Although he's a decent player, I'm not sure another midfielder is what we need.

I think we are fine in the centre if Defour stays. Good player though.

Murger wrote:Although he's a decent player, I'm not sure another midfielder is what we need.

Remember when we used to have just Marney and Jones as centre midfielders?

Happy days.

claretspice wrote:Not sure he's what we need, unless another player (Defour) is also leaving. Its pace and dash we need.

But he's a good player.

He's an upgrade on Arfield for me. Can play out wide and central. If we play a midfield 5 on a regular basis this season then Clucas would slot in nicely.

Central - Hendrick, Cork, Westwood, Defour, Marney, Clucas
Wingers - Arfield Brady JBG New.

That would see our midfield complete for me.

Boden seems to think he wants to play cm so he cant see it happening as were already well stocked

Surely Tom Lawrence has to be worth a look at re a wide berth or Lookman on loan if available. Clucas would offer decent utility but not entirely sure he's what is required.

If we signed Clucas you'd think it'd be the end of Arfield's Burnley career.

SkiptonClaret wrote:Surely Tom Lawrence has to be worth a look .

You got a perfect look when he skied that sitter ..

I've just liked a Saxoman post - I enjoyed him missing that sitter

agreenwood wrote:If we signed Clucas you'd think it'd be the end of Arfield's Burnley career.

You'd think that it'd be close.



We love you Scotty

How classy a midfield do we need to lump the ball up to Walters and Vokes?

Saxoman wrote:You got a perfect look when he skied that sitter ..

Did you not see all them belters he scored last season ?

Saxoman wrote:You got a perfect look when he skied that sitter ..

Wow. Such a fond memory.

He should have been sent off for missing that

SkiptonClaret wrote:Surely Tom Lawrence has to be worth a look at re a wide berth or Lookman on loan if available. Clucas would offer decent utility but not entirely sure he's what is required.

wasn't a bid of about £18m for Lawwrence turned down at the start of the window - think it was Leicester

Chester Perry wrote:wasn't a bid of about £18m for Lawwrence turned down at the start of the window - think it was Leicester

Doubt they would be trying to buy their own player

Chester Perry wrote:wasn't a bid of about £18m for Lawwrence turned down at the start of the window - think it was Leicester

I think it was £8M

£8m from Derby

Burnley have £5m bid for Sam Clucas rejected by Hull as Sean Dyche looks to spend £18.5m Andre Gray cash

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Hull.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clucas to replace Marney? Yes please.

Just said on sky that Hull value him @ £10m. Apparently we have offered £5m, not surprising really. Why oh why do we always make stupid offers that we know will be rejected? Utc

IndigoLake wrote:Burnley have £5m bid for Sam Clucas rejected by Hull as Sean Dyche looks to spend £18.5m Andre Gray cash

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Hull.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

5 million....really?

I am not sure we need Clucas but I don't feel that is a realistic offer for him if we want him. You would need to at least double that.

Sam Clucas impressed me everytime I seen him play last year. If he signed it would be a big boost in all our midfielders would be comfortable on the ball at this level which has been a massive weakness in our previous two premier league seasons. It allowed teams to just sit back and play it around til it went to our weak link.

jedi_master wrote:5 million....really?

I am not sure we need Clucas but I don't feel that is a realistic offer for him if we want him. You would need to at least double that.

Yes, I'd have been surprised if we'd signed him for 5mil. Mind you, not sure I agree with the person who commented on the article saying that he's worth at least 20mil in today's market Probably 10mil is about right.

He's a good player, and would arguably be our second best wide player too if Dyche chooses to play him there.

Certainly a Dyche type player. Not sure on his end product though, but he'll work his balls off, track back and help defend.

This would be a brilliant signing. Immensely strengthens us out wide while also bolsters an already impressive central midfield area. 12-15 million and he's ours, I reckon.

Is he in the last year of his contract?

As a CM?

Yes please, would love to have him here, cash plus a triple choc or peanut butter Twix (they are available)

Although I'm not sure how we would fit him into a 25 man squad when Marney returns in January.

As a winger?

Not really.

Not a million miles away was I???

I can see this happening, good addition if it does

claretdj wrote:Just said on sky that Hull value him @ £10m. Apparently we have offered £5m, not surprising really. Why oh why do we always make stupid offers that we know will be rejected? Utc

A couple of days ago it was reported that Watford had offered just £8M for Gray. As Gray's eventual value would appear to be £18.5M surely Watford just made an absolutely stupid offer there. At least everything ended up OK.

bfcmik wrote:A couple of days ago it was reported that Watford had offered just £8M for Gray. As Gray's eventual value would appear to be £18.5M surely Watford just made an absolutely stupid offer there. At least everything ended up OK.

You're wasting your time bfcmik, some people clearly can't grasp the simple concept of negotiation.

scouseclaret wrote:£500k and a giant twix?

Why be so flippant? we all know we offer Giant Toblerones now we are a Premier League outfit!

He's also played LB for about half a season when Dan Jones got injured and CF after Eoin Doyle got sold for a bit. I wouldn't say CF was his best (although he was better there than the double-barrelled overweight lump that Chesterfield had there the next season), but he worked well playing off Nando. If you substitute Vokes for Nando in front of a four in a 4-4-1-1 then he'll be fine. Probably more than fine bearing in mind that Nando was every bit a Div 2 player (playing in Div 1) and Vokes is class.

If we get him I think Defour will be on his way. Otherwse we would have gone from the utter ridiculousness of just Marney and Jones to SIX specialists in the middle.

People think we have too many CMs but if we play 4-5-1 we are 1 injury/suspension from playing Arfield in there or reverting back to 442. Clucas is a great Boyd Replacement.

summitclaret wrote:If we get him I think Defour will be on his way. Otherwse we would have gone from the utter ridiculousness of just Marney and Jones to SIX specialists in the middle.

Clucas and Defour are very different players. Although the way this window's looking it wouldn't surprise if we got rid of our creativity as well as our pace

Isn't Clucas a winger?

We have, as first choice CM- Cork, Westwood, Hendrick, and Defour. As "fallbacks" we have Arfield, Ulvestad and, when fit again, possibly Marney.

If we do move towards 4-5-1 as a formation then I'd say we're still light by 1 player. Especially as Ulvestad doesn't seem to be good enough and Arfield is coming into the last year of his contract and is seen as a player we should be looking at upgrading on. This isn't including injuries, suspensions to our first choice midfielders.

In fact even if we stick with 4-4-2 I'd say we want another midfielder in so that we can have effective options from the bench if we need to change things mid game.

I'd imagine that an up front fee of £7-8 million plus add-ons will see him join us.

Anybody know how close he is to Charlie Taylor? Possibility that he might be chatting to him and ncouragig him to make the move?

Surely it would make more sense to go in for groseki

If we are serious about getting Clucas in then suspect Dyche
may wish to have sufficent players available to mix up the formation/starting eleven.
Wheter it be 4-5-1 or possibly 4-3-3 or even the tried and tested 4-4-2.
Clucas could play in any of those formations and probably is an upgrade on Arfield within a 4-4-2.

Not sure we are serious but given it's Burnley I suppose the iniital bid
of 5m was to be expected as was Hull's response.
Can't see then letting him go for less than 8m with fairly substantial add-ons.

Presumably we (the club/chairman) must also realise that Hull aren't going to let him go
unless it's an offer they can't refuse. Hopefully wages wouldn't be an issue.

Be interesting to see whether we come back with a better offer?
Probably 6m + add-ons which, no doubt, will also be turned down.
Or whether Clucas is interested.

There may well be one or two other clubs who may wish to have him
and wouldn't wish to lose out on him as I do beleive he could improve the team.