Defending against Chelsea's 1st and 2nd goals - Discuss

Chuckypad wrote:Defending against Chelsea's 1st and 2nd goals - Discuss

As in Chelsea, current premier league champions...?

Rick_Muller wrote:As in Chelsea, current premier league champions...?

What's that got to do with it , he's not good enough

Said on another thread! Ball watching.

Yeah 3-2 up away at the champions and let's discuss the shortcomings of one of our own players! How sad.

joey13 wrote:What's that got to do with it , he's not good enough

It's got everything to do with it. He's inexperienced against the premier league champions - still will be a great player for us, given a chance

Rick_Muller wrote:It's got everything to do with it. He's inexperienced against the premier league champions - still will be a great player for us, given a chance

Can we just celebrate beating Chelsea

Rick_Muller wrote:As in Chelsea, current premier league champions...?

I like the lad and think he's had a good game, but regardless of who we're playing, he can't ball watch like that

joey13 wrote:Can we just celebrate beating Chelsea

That was a quick change of tune... I was defending him and trying to do that

Need a replacement for Tarks - ball watching against 9 men, imagine if it were 11, yes lets celebrate but build on the win

Win against the champions and you have to have a whipping boy.

Chuckypad wrote:Defending against Chelsea's 1st and 2nd goals - Discuss

lol i can see why this is posted,,,only two mistakes he made in whole game

Usual suspects having a go.

Bring on the Brom

Rightfoot wrote:Need a replacement for Tarks - ball watching against 9 men, imagine if it were 11, yes lets celebrate but build on the win

He did well today and with a few more games with Mee he'll be bob on.

Think joey13 forgot to change his username

First game of the season against the League Champions, who even with 9 men have more quality than we have. And who could have given us a real hiding had they not lost the plot. It's a good job we capitalised on their mistakes.

Tarkowski made errors yes, he will learn from this and he will get better now playing every week. You can only learn so much in training.

Give the lad a chance , how many games has he played in this league,do you not think he will learn as he the season goes on

Give it a rest, so much to celebrate and we get ridiculous posts like this

He'll learn from playing in these sort of games but you're taught as a kid not to ball watch. Great result though!

Jimscho wrote:Win against the champions and you have to have a whipping boy.

What's your point? Nobodys making him a whipping boy but pointing out some costly mistakes or isn't that allowed on a footballing forum?

he made 2 mistakes , but other than that was excellent...the mistakes he made can be worked on and hopefully not repeated,,,bizarrely they may actually make him better

Re: Chuckypad

Stupid post - Discuss

Maybe Tarks will learn.
He could even get better.......

Oh, and by the way.
We've won.

Fantastic day to be a Claret and some people can only dwell on the negatives, I bet you are a barrel of laughs at parties

Get a grip and celebrate, we have just beaten the league champions and are 3rd in the PL.

Oh forgot our 'rivals' just lost at home against Doncaster and are 3rd bottom in League One

These are fine times, they won't last forever, ENJOY!!!!!!!

He played well but his two mistakes cost us two goals. He'll learn from it.

Seem to remember same said about Keano...dropped for Duff. Big learning curve for the lad...Boden giving him lots of plaudits for his 1st half display.

Not helped by the fact that we dropped deep, panicked and gave the ball away too much. Oh but wait it was Chelsea at the Bridge I've heard they can play a bit.

Tarks was outstanding apart from the two lapses in concentration - clearly something he needs to eradicate sharply because he has the makings of a top drawer centre half.

Tarkowski did a lot right today. Let's also keep that in mind. Made a particularly vital block in the first half. He didn't get much of a run of games last season. Hopefully he will this season and he'll get better and better. However, we do need to keep improving the squad. So I want Shawcross or Dawson. Dawson is unlikely, in my opinion though.

From what I saw he hade a decent game but missed the last 20 minutes .

Also,
Keane wasn't built in a day.

So shhhh!

His contributions were being lauded throughout most of the game especially in the first half when playing against eleven men. It was a long game. Twists and turns. We won. The idiots giving him flak should hold their heads in shame.

You have to be a special kind of Dick to look for a negative in today's result.

Right_winger wrote:What's your point? Nobodys making him a whipping boy but pointing out some costly mistakes or isn't that allowed on a footballing forum?

Of course it is, but maybe a number of us find it strange that whilst we are beating the champions away from home, the OPs first thought is to start a thread criticising one of our players.
Some people will clearly never be happy.

Ridiculous thread. Tarkowski played well for the vast majority of the game. Well done lad. He'll get better with more games with Mee under his belt

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Think joey13 forgot to change his username

Meaning?

dermotdermot wrote:His contributions were being lauded throughout most of the game especially in the first half when playing against eleven men. It was a long game. Twists and turns. We won. The idiots giving him flak should hold their heads in shame.

He cost us two goals , so people not allowed to say

Switched off for both goals and it's happened too many times to ignore. He just needs a run off games and a Dyche word. He'll come good. That said, wahooooooooooo!!!

Didn't watch it and so hard to comment on his role in the goals though he sounded to play well according to Clarets Player.

Even if he is at fault, people should remember Ben Mee played very well in many games last year yet had lapses in concentration which cost us goals. He did however almost eradicate those instances by the end of the season and hopefully Tarks will be given the chance and do the same.

joey13 wrote:He cost us two goals , so people not allowed to say

But he saved umpteen others, numbskull!

I think whilst we rightly celebrate there were some concerning signs with Tarks. He, like the team was outstanding in the first half, not so much in the second. Ignoring the goals I was more alarmed that David Luiz got away from Tarks on every single set piece, he has to sharpen up and hopefully that will come with experience. We'll know soon enough what the manager thinks if he brings in another CB. Bit harsh to nail the OP, it's a perfectly valid discussion

Have to say when the lad Morata came on he is like a bloody whippet and he is a big unit as well, there are a lot of teams going to struggle more than us once he is fully fit. 2 mistakes doesn't mean the hang man's noose tha knows.

1968claret wrote:Of course it is, but maybe a number of us find it strange that whilst we are beating the champions away from home, the OPs first thought is to start a thread criticising one of our players.
Some people will clearly never be happy.

The OP didn't criticise Tarks though. Mearly left an open ended question to create discussion.

For what it's worth I thought Tarks played well today by and large. He did get caught twice though costing 2 goals and Iv no problem saying so.

Fantastic victory and sets us up nicely for the next game.

Making mistakes is not the end of the world.

As long as you learn from them.

The man that makes no mistakes. Usually makes nothing at all.

dermotdermot wrote:But he saved umpteen others, numbskull!

Well done , keep it civil, how old are you 12

I suspect Dyche will be drilling them this week in readiness for next weeks bombardment !

In the first half he did really well, a couple of blips in the second half, but give him his dues this was a mountain of a game and towards the end a true test of character in the face of nerves. Chelsea came alive again in the second half and bringing on Morata (albeit an unfit Morata) provided them with a very dangerous cutting edge.

For his part Mee didn't hesitate to welcome Morata to the league

I think I crapped enough bricks for Barnfields to build us a new stadium and I can't begin to imagine how the lads must have been feeling. I think Tarks did a commendable job for us today, quite a few positives, some pointers towards things he can work on and under the circumstances a respectable display. More match time and experience will only make him even better, but I still think we need to add another defender to our roster even if it is only to provide cover for the unforeseeable.

joey13 wrote:Can we just celebrate beating Chelsea

You make a post like this when, at the same time, you're the main protagonist against Tarkowski? Do you suffer from some sort of split personality.

Melbourneclaret wrote:Ridiculous thread. Tarkowski played well for the vast majority of the game. Well done lad. He'll get better with more games with Mee under his belt

If Mee was under his belt, no wonder he lost concentration