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Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:10 am
by Bfcboyo
Bbc docu!
Let's change evolution because it's fashionable to be pc and not differentiate.

Absolute nonsense.

Latest fad in a western world with too much time to sway with the masses latest fads.

Probably some form of government over population control long term . After all , the way the population in UK is expanding we will be in an overpopulated weak position globally I'm 20 years.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:13 am
by Bfcboyo
In 20 yrs
I'm unfortunately 30

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:30 am
by paulus the woodgnome
Are you still on a high from the Chelsea game?

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:00 am
by IanMcL
The thought being that we steriotype boys and girls and therefore deprive them of their 'possibilities'. It is probably true but they are still different and certainly not neutral!

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:47 am
by Dazzler
Kipling was so yesterday wasn't he..?

."And - which is more - you'll be a Neutral Gender Person , my child!"

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:36 am
by Hipper
I thought the programme was interesting despite my natural resistance to it.

The experiment with the babies I've seen before somewhere and it was interesting but not mentioned that a baby boy dressed as a girl still went for a 'boyish' toy despite the encouragement to be girly by the helper.

It was mentioned that our brains differ little at these young ages but no mention was made of hormones - brain chemistry if you like. I don't know what influence hormones have at a young age but I suspect they have some.

Are there any other mammals that are gender neutral? I think there's a range of differentiation in nature.

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Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:44 am
by SammyBoy
Can I opt in and still be male?

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:52 am
by Lancasterclaret
I watched it too, with my initial thought being "this is going to be a load of ********"

It was interesting though, but not sure its changed my opinion.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:02 am
by Caernarfon_Claret
Before 1900 Baby Boys wore pink and Baby Girls Blue

Blue being the colour associated with The Virgin Mary and therefore better suited to little girls than the more dangerous pink.

Why did they switch.

Changing gender stereotypes is not new.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:40 am
by Inchy
I hope Trump comes out and says he now identifies himself as female, without actually doing anything to look/act differently.

It would mean the feminists/Trans people would have to admit he is the first female President.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:50 am
by dsr
It's quite interesting that one of the modern ways of thinking is that gender is determined by a something that happens in the brain at 11 weeks and that makes a person's brain either male or female; and another modern way of thinking is that there's no difference between male and female. Obviously they can't both be right - so is it unreasonable of me to stick with the old fashioned way of determining male and female until the moderns get their act together?

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:03 am
by geopancake
The world has gone mad!
I can understand the idea of giving more choice to children, rather than imposing stereotypes that match the norms in society, however great care needs to be taken. When born children are either male or female(in general, there are some exceptions), but giving choice will lead to more incorrect choices, based on pressure from the main stream media, who seem intent on highlighting difference for the sake of it. I find the constant media coverage disproportionate and in favour of tiny minority groups, however these once small minority groups seem to grow year on year.

I find the following puzzling:

LGBTTIQQ2SA-Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Transgender, Intersex, Queer, Questioning, 2-Spirited and Allies.

I remember when you were either a lad or a lass.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:06 am
by Lancasterclaret
You can tell by reading this thread who watched the program and who read the Daily Mail while having a dump this morning.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:12 am
by Blackrod
And the Daily Mail gets another mention

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:15 am
by Wexford_Claret
Blackrod wrote:And the Daily Mail gets another mention
It generally does when people begin talking the kind of crap one might find in its pages.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:18 am
by Lancasterclaret
What Wexford said.

I've no idea if they have an opinion on this, but if they did, it wouldn't be balanced, or probably even accurate.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:48 am
by Hipper
I've been thinking a bit more about this whilst mowing lawns! (It's a sign of a good TV programme if it makes you think)

What is the purpose of childhood. Surely it is to prepare you for being an adult. Of course being an adult these days is a lot more complicated then it used to be but there are still some essential facts that remain the same, namely gender and the effects of puberty. It is at puberty that bodies change and hormones change our responses too.

A girl will unquestionably become a woman after puberty and as such she has certain responsibilities that men don't have. For that reason there are lessons that girls need to learn that are not directly relevant boys.

All this does not mean that both genders (and any others that care to be considered) should not have equal opportunities or be denied those by peer pressure. If the concept in this programme is looked at from that point of view that is fine.

The other thing I remember from my childhood is that whilst I mixed and played with girls occasionally at school (having a go at skipping for example), mostly I played with boys because I wanted to (read into that what you like!).

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:04 pm
by AndrewJB
LGBTTIQQ2SA-Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Transgender, Intersex, Queer, Questioning, 2-Spirited and Allies. - I think there are more terms than that. Is it not therefore reassuring that there's a movement toward simplicity; that we're just people? My eldest daughter is interested in these subjects, and predicts a future in which people will choose more bespoke family structures and be happier as a result.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:05 pm
by Blackrod
The Daily Mail must be wrong on all fronts as it leans to the right.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:07 pm
by Lancasterclaret
If it lent any further to the right Blackrod, it would become the Völkischer Beobachter

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:08 pm
by Blackrod
The sooner we have a mixed team of people formerly known as males, females, bi, and transsexuals the better. Only then can we demonstrate equality and fairness. In fact there should be a quota so that targets are met and equal numbers are put into the team whether they are good enough or not.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:28 pm
by HatfieldClaret
AndrewJB wrote:LGBTTIQQ2SA-Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Transgender, Intersex, Queer, Questioning, 2-Spirited and Allies. - I think there are more terms than that. Is it not therefore reassuring that there's a movement toward simplicity; that we're just people? My eldest daughter is interested in these subjects, and predicts a future in which people will choose more bespoke family structures and be happier as a result.
And when she has kids she'll be able to chest feed :?

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:34 pm
by tim_noone
Girls will be boys..boys will be girls it's a mixed up world of sugar whirls. and as been for years!

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:37 pm
by boatshed bill
tim_noone wrote:Girls will be boys..boys will be girls it's a mixed up world of sugar whirls. and as been for years!
Lola, L O L A , Lola

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:06 pm
by Damo
Don't want to start a new thread, but I can imagine which of the contributors to this one might take offence at this soap dispensers behaviour
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Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:10 pm
by steve_f
I keep telling my Mrs that I'm a lesbian trapped inside a mans body :D

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:51 pm
by Morrisminor
Just throwing my wooden spoon in. I'm one of many that think there is a global reshuffle going on orchestrated by the few eliet global controllers.I think that this gender neutral rubbish is another attempt to undermine stability and cause confusion. Mass imigration is another tool to cause instability. I could go on and on but i suppose this is the wrong thread LOL

Clarets 3 Baggies 1 :roll:

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:03 pm
by basil6345789
Bang on Morris - it's all orchestrated ******** - all the homosexual stuff too. By the way, what's wrong with stereotyping - surely it's just collating the facts?

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:14 pm
by AndrewJB
HatfieldClaret wrote:And when she has kids she'll be able to chest feed :?
Her take on it is that people will move away from all this labeling, and just be how they want to be.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:28 pm
by Damo
Saw this on Twitter by a kickboxing champion. Not sure how this sits with all the virtue signalers
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Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:35 pm
by basil6345789
Bigot? Do you know the meaning of the word, idiot?

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:38 pm
by basil6345789
Just seen the tribute on the box to the 50 odd year old broadcaster who has just died. In closing they said that she leaves a wife and 2 children.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:48 am
by HatfieldClaret
AndrewJB wrote:Her take on it is that people will move away from all this labeling, and just be how they want to be.
I'm all for equality and live and let live etc, but one can only move so far away from labelling for obvious reasons.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:55 am
by boiledclaret
Morrisminor wrote:Just throwing my wooden spoon in. I'm one of many that think there is a global reshuffle going on orchestrated by the few eliet global controllers.I think that this gender neutral rubbish is another attempt to undermine stability and cause confusion. Mass imigration is another tool to cause instability. I could go on and on but i suppose this is the wrong thread LOL
But is it 'one of many'? I've been an exile for 8 years so I wouldn't know what type of percentages we're looking at in the UK.

I certainly believe that the family unit is being destroyed and that we're becoming more and more state owned.

Re: Gender neutral no more boys or girls!

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:16 pm
by Bfcboyo
Do you think the Mashco-piro tribe in Peru suffer these social dilemmas. I think a big table spoon of reality check is required in the pc pioneering UK.

I'm totally tired of TV and social media telling me what's right and wrong.

I reckon there is a tiny percentage of people not wired up right who are born " into the wrong body"

What the media and powers above here seem to be doing is promoting and encouraging to the flocks an unnatural load of old tosh.

Gender neutral - pish off