Jack Walkers dead chant

[Steddyman]

Am I the only one that cringes at this? I feel ashamed to be a Burnley fan when this chant goes around.

We were playing at Blackburn FFS. Some of his family could have even been present at the game.

Totally classless and we should be better than that.

[Quickenthetempo]

Sing something else louder then.

[Saxoman]

File alongside war chants at German fans.

[Steddyman]

File alongside war chants at German fans.

Yes, agree.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Its not celebrating his death though.

The carpet one is. This one isnt,

[arise_sir_charge]

File also alongside scientiifically innacurate songs about interbreeding.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Need more classy chants like the 'intobread' one Rovers sing.

[Jamesy]

Am I the only one that cringes at this? I feel ashamed to be a Burnley fan when this chant goes around.

We were playing at Blackburn FFS. Some of his family could have even been present at the game.

Totally classless and we should be better than that.

Agree with you Steddyman, I have cringed at this from day one. Time we grew up, we are bigger than them and well past the Jack Walker/Blackburn superior days. Surely we can come up with a witty song highlighting the demise of Roverrs?

[Lord Beamish]

I don't sing along to it, but it certainly doesn't make me cringe. It's an unpleasant ditty, but we all have a right to be unpleasant, if that suits us.

[enduroclaret]

Are any of Jack's family still welcome at Ewood?
They p*ssed all over Uncle Jack's dream.

[Saxoman]

Sooner or later the media will pick up on these chants, like the ones at Chelsea too, and you'll have a fine reputation.

[Steddyman]

File also alongside scientiifically innacurate songs about interbreeding.

That is just a joke, banter. We all know it isn't true.

But Jack is dead and he had a family and friends. Also he may have bankrolled rovers for a long time, but he did that out of love. He wasn't an evil man we should be joyfully celebrating the death of on his own turf.

[joey13]

That is just a joke, banter. We all know it isn't true.

But Jack is dead and he had a family and friends. Also he may have bankrolled rovers for a long time, but he did that out of love. He wasn't an evil man we should be joyfully celebrating the death of on his own turf.

So it's ok to dodge tax then ?

[Lord Beamish]

That is just a joke, banter. We all know it isn't true.

But Jack is dead and he had a family and friends. Also he may have bankrolled rovers for a long time, but he did that out of love. He wasn't an evil man we should be joyfully celebrating the death of on his own turf.

In fairness, it's hardly celebrating his death, as much as revelling in the effects of what him no longer having a hand in their affairs is having on their Club.

[Saxoman]

So it's ok to dodge tax then ?

Omg.

[Steddyman]

So it's ok to dodge tax then ?

Sorry? I did a google for Jack Walker Conviction and cannot see any articles saying he was convicted of tax evasion. Was he?

Tax avoidance is fair play and legal if that is what you are accusing him of.

I am unsure what this has to do with the question of the thread though. Would that make him evil and worthy of death?

[joey13]

Sorry? I did a google for Jack Walker Conviction and cannot see any articles saying he was convicted of tax evasion. Was he?

Tax avoidance is fair play and legal if that is what you are accusing him of.

I am unsure what this has to do with the question of the thread though. Would that make him evil and worthy of death?

He was a tax dodger , if you think it's ok to pay less tax than the average worker then fine .
Tax avoidance isn't legal either .

[Darthlaw]

Is it time for another 'is the king is dead, long live the king song offensive to the king' argument again?

It's almost as if the argument raises its head every time we play the Darwen mob.

[MACCA]

If it gets under the Rovers fans skin, it is doing it's no. The more people complain, the more it will get sung.

Rightly or wrongly fans and people in general will make songs and jokes about deaths, convictions or anything that gets a rise.

It's the way of the world now a days I'm affraid.

There's right and wrong on both sides, and doesn't look like changing, and you have 3 options.
1. Embrace it
2. Ignore it
3. Do something about it.

But 1 fact is, wanting change things by pleading on a internet message board, will achieve absolutely nothing.

[Steddyman]

He was a tax dodger , if you think it's ok to pay less tax than the average worker then fine .
Tax avoidance isn't legal either .

Tax avoidance is 100% legal.

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[Steddyman]

But 1 fact is, wanting change things by pleading on a internet message board, will achieve absolutely nothing.

I didn't expect it to. I just wondered how many others found it abhorrent.

If we sang racists chants and it got under their skin, would that be ok to?

[dsr]

Dodging tax isn't illegal. Jack Walker went to Jersey to avoid paying tax to the UK, and carefully timed his visits to make sure he didn't accidentally get caught spending too many days here. Sometimes he had a plane sitting at Blackpool Airport for a late Saturday flight home, just to make sure he didn't go over the limit.

I'm not saying he was wrong, and I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same if I was rich enough. But it's fact that he was a tax dodger; the term is pejorative, said in a way to make him look bad, but it's factually accurate.

[joey13]

Tax avoidance is 100% legal.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/personal-finan ... difference" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's still illegal ask an accountant

[ten bellies]

The song states a fact, plus a wish for the Venky's to remain. I just don't see the problem.

[Dazzler]

I don't care for any explanation of Interpretation of the chant.
It comes across as mindless,moronic and as the OP stated..Classless.

We are better than them,let us show it.

Please,STOP IT!

[joey13]

Omg.

There you go you learn something everyday , yes it was his tax dodging money that paid for your morally corrupt club to buy the Premier League .

[dsr]

It's still illegal ask an accountant

I'm an accountant. It's not illegal. Tax avoidance can be as simple as opening an ISA, or leaving the country to live somewhere cheaper, or it can be very complicated, but avoidance is within the law. Tax evasion is the illegal one.

It's actually the definition of the difference between avoidance and evasion, that avoidance is legal, evasion isn't.

[Saxoman]

There you go you learn something everyday , yes it was his tax dodging money that paid for your morally corrupt club to buy the Premier League .

Hooray!

Edit- thought it was the premiership?

[Quickenthetempo]

Singing that song is legal. You think it's morally wrong like most people think tax avoidance is.

[Steddyman]

I'm an accountant. It's not illegal. Tax avoidance can be as simple as opening an ISA, or leaving the country to live somewhere cheaper, or it can be very complicated, but avoidance is within the law. Tax evasion is the illegal one.

It's actually the definition of the difference between avoidance and evasion, that avoidance is legal, evasion isn't.

Haha.

[gandhisflipflop]

Some of our fans really need to get a grip. If you don't like offensive songs then football isn't the place for you. Try the theatre or something.

[Saxoman]

Some of our fans really need to get a grip. If you don't like offensive songs then football isn't the place for you. Try the theatre or something.

Bring back 'town full of p**is' I say..

[bfcjg]

As per last time this chant came up on a thread sing it loud with passion,I do. Look at the decay at deadwood the deadwood Walker built it started dieing when he did,celebrate the fact some foreign owners are watching them slowly wither and really dont care. Its factual and rubs there noses in it. Dont give me the poor old Walker family line that it isnt nice to hear it if they are on the match they probably know Jacks dead. I choose not though to sing the hes dead dead dead at the end as that makes it an insult not a song of triumph.

[Dazzler]

Some of our fans really need to get a grip. If you don't like offensive songs then football isn't the place for you. Try the theatre or something.

I'm not gay but I often have to repel the urge to get a grip of a fans balls that is chanting the ditty in my delicate ear-hole.

Seriously,does it make your heart fill with pride chanting it?

[pureclaret]

Its classless and moronic to me and it does upset Blackburn fans who knew him and counted him as a friend. To be respected we should stop singing it.

[MACCA]

I didn't expect it to. I just wondered how many others found it abhorrent.

If we sang racists chants and it got under their skin, would that be ok to?

I try not to get involved in discussions regarding religion anymore.

But if I was offended by something, I'd report it. If not I keep myself to myself.
People get offended by a whole host of things these days, the song doesn't particularly upset me, nor do I sing it from the rooftops.

I can't think of a song sang on the Turf that doesn't upset someone somewhere.

[TomtheClaret]

Sooner or later the media will pick up on these chants, like the ones at Chelsea too, and you'll have a fine reputation.

What like those classy ditties about kilbys cancer. And the young fans suicide after game under laws? Cause they were right grand.

[joey13]

I'm an accountant. It's not illegal. Tax avoidance can be as simple as opening an ISA, or leaving the country to live somewhere cheaper, or it can be very complicated, but avoidance is within the law. Tax evasion is the illegal one.

It's actually the definition of the difference between avoidance and evasion, that avoidance is legal, evasion isn't.

That'll be why Walker was only allowed to be in the country for so many days per year , if he had stayed one day over he would have been arrested for tax avoidance.

Gary Barlow avoided paying tax and has had to pay up because by avoiding paying tax he acted illegally.

[Burnley Ace]

What no comeback from Joey? Perhaps when you pay tax then you might no the difference.

[NottsClaret]

Don't sing it myself but it's not a big deal.

Rather that than a creepy obsession with incest, even at kids' games.

[1963Claret]

If it upsets the Bar Stewards then it's fine by me. I remember those pr1cks singing 'Up On The Roof' in 1992 after Ben Lee's death. Sing it loud and offend them as much as you like. After years of listening to their arrogance, mockery and insults they deserve it with both barrels.

[Damo]

Sooner or later the media will pick up on these chants, like the ones at Chelsea too, and you'll have a fine reputation.

We only sing them when we play You, and that won't be happening again for a while

[Saxoman]

What like those classy ditties about kilbys cancer. And the young fans suicide after game under laws? Cause they were right grand.

I think you just make these up.

[Saxoman]

Gary Barlow avoided paying tax and has had to pay up because by avoiding paying tax he acted illegally.

Bloody taxmen, they 'never forget'..

[pureclaret]

19 something or other i think you are wrong !!! but support your right to be free to say what you feel , but just so sorry for you being such a knob.

[1963Claret]

19 something or other i think you are wrong !!! but support your right to be free to say what you feel , but just so sorry for you being such a knob.

I might take your opinion seriously if you could actually string an intelligible sentence together. Snowflake.

[cav]

Same lot of supporters that sang about Ben Lee.

We haven't forgotten.

So no, I don't feel ashamed of our fans signing about Jack Walker.

[Vino blanco]

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact, it still makes me smile, especially given the state the Rovers are in.

[pureclaret]

ohhh some one called snowflake has just replied to a comment I made. Guess got him good HA HA

[1963Claret]

ohhh some one called snowflake has just replied to a comment I made. Guess got him good HA HA

Oh the irony