Barnes bid turned down.

ClaretCliff · Post by **ClaretCliff** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:53 am

Apologies if covered elsewhere but I haven't seen it. Burnley have turned down an £8m bid from Swansea for Ashley Barnes. Swansea are now expected to go after Bony.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:02 am

Barnes was their first choice over Bony?

Seriously?

ClaretCliff · Post by **ClaretCliff** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:09 am

That's what it says in today's daily telegraph. "They Expect to sign Wilfried Bony from Manchester City after an £8 million bid for Burnley,s Ashley Barnes was turned down."

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:10 am

Be surprised if Barnes doesn't depart for somewhere today.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:12 am

ClaretCliff wrote:That's what it says in today's daily telegraph. "They Expect to sign Wilfried Bony from Manchester City after an £8 million bid for Burnley,s Ashley Barnes was turned down."

Bizarre.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:14 am

I don't think we'd turn down that sort of money for Ash. I smell BS!

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:16 am

jlup1980 wrote:I don't think we'd turn down that sort of money for Ash. I smell BS!

He's worth more to us.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:22 am

bartons baggage wrote:He's worth more to us.

I'm not convinced he is these days. He's a marked man. As soon as he jumps up for a challenge the opposition throw themselves to the ground, regardless of whether they've been touched (see Vertongen for Spurs on Sunday for the perfect example), and the referee falls for it. He's liable to pick up silly yellows as well (WBA game for example). I think he's been very effective in the past but sometimes you need to move on.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:28 am

Hope he stays. Maybe Wells wants the number 10 shirt.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:29 am

jlup1980 wrote:I'm not convinced he is these days. He's a marked man. As soon as he jumps up for a challenge the opposition throw themselves to the ground, regardless of whether they've been touched (see Vertongen for Spurs on Sunday for the perfect example), and the referee falls for it. He's liable to pick up silly yellows as well (WBA game for example). I think he's been very effective in the past but sometimes you need to move on.

Yeah i get that,but i wouldn't want to see him pushed out.
If Barnes decides it's time to move on then he goes with my blessings.
He's been a good player for us and gives 100% when on the pitch.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:33 am

He's got some very obvious pros and cons but he's one of, possibly the most, skilful players we have. His ability to trap and lay off the ball quickly and accurately would be missed if he goes, even though he has the bizarre knack of looking ungainly while doing skilful things...

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:34 am

SkiptonClaret wrote:Be surprised if Barnes doesn't depart for somewhere today.

Sadly I agree.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:36 am

thatdberight wrote:He's got some very obvious pros and cons but he's one of, possibly the most, skilful players we have. His ability to trap and lay off the ball quickly and accurately would be missed if he goes, even though he has the bizarre knack of looking ungainly while doing skilful things...

Can't disagree with any of that.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:42 am

SkiptonClaret wrote:Be surprised if Barnes doesn't depart for somewhere today.

I'd be surprised if he does

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:49 am

Barnes is one of our best strikers. I dont know why some people cant see it

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:51 am

Stay Barnesy!

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:56 am

If we sign Wells sounds like he's out for a few weeks. Walters not fully recovered from the injury sustained at Rovers - and that's before you consider what Barnes actually offers us.

Can see Ash might consider a move if it meant more regular starts but would be very disappointed if he left today.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:01 am

I dont want Ash to go he is one of the Clarets soldiers.....an important member of our squad.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:08 am

If Barnes departs today then I'm done with football.

#ManCrush

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:15 am

I'd like to keep Ash the Bash, his mentality is just right for for a Dyche team

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:27 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:Barnes was their first choice over Bony?

Seriously?

If fairness Barnes did score quite a few more than Bony last season

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:29 am

Bony close to a move yesterday according to Sky. Llorente is off to Chelsea when Bony comes in.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:03 am

If Ash goes, i'm throwing my season ticket on the pitch !

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:11 am

Nonayforever wrote:If Ash goes, i'm throwing my season ticket on the pitch !

Make sure it doesn't go anywhere near barnes, or else he'll pathetically fall over and appeal to the ref with that mardy fat lipped face of his.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:16 am

No he won't; he'll chest it, trap it and lay it off... we all know that.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:19 am

Why would we sell Barnes?
Without him we just have Vokes and Wood as Strikers
Aygei - going out on loan
Walters - Winger and occasional emergency striker
Wells - out for a few months
Just makes no sense, even if we sign another striker
Barnes is part of our fabric

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:25 am

Aye Aye Ashley, Ashley Barnes

Four A's and a B is not bad in anyone's language!

ClaretinMyBlood · Post by **ClaretinMyBlood** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:27 am

Letting Barnes go to a relegation rival would be the worst business we could do today. The fact other teams around us want him complements itself.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:40 am

cutsy123 wrote:Barnes is one of our best strikers. I dont know why some people cant see it

Agreed.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:49 am

When he came on at spurs he was just what we needed,we were being bullied a bit and Sean dyche made a good call imo.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:19 am

bartons baggage wrote:He's worth more to us.

A lot more.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:32 am

If we end up paying £5m for Wells and selling Barnes for £8m I am not sure how anybody could say that is good business.

Barnes has done consistently well for us since he arrived and has been a key player in the Premier League for us.

Wells has never played in this league and has not pulled up any trees in the championship for the last few seasons.

5 strikers is not ideal but Walters is injured and Wells is either injured or not match fit.

We definitely do not need the cash and it does not sound like Barnes wants to leave either so selling him makes no sense to me

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:38 am

TVC15 wrote:If we end up paying £5m for Wells and selling Barnes for £8m I am not sure how anybody could say that is good business.

Barnes has done consistently well for us since he arrived and has been a key player in the Premier League for us.

Wells has never played in this league and has not pulled up any trees in the championship for the last few seasons.

5 strikers is not ideal but Walters is injured and Wells is either injured or not match fit.

We definitely do not need the cash and it does not sound like Barnes wants to leave either so selling him makes no sense to me

How do you know though if it is good business or not? Nobody can tell at this moment in time. Wells could come in and be a revelation, and Barnes could leave and do nothing at his new club.
We will only know if this is good business when he has had a chance to bed in and actually play some games for Burnley.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:46 am

Braindead wrote:How do you know though if it is good business or not? Nobody can tell at this moment in time. Wells could come in and be a revelation, and Barnes could leave and do nothing at his new club.
We will only know if this is good business when he has had a chance to bed in and actually play some games for Burnley.

Well I can't predict the future....but I can say whether I think it's good business and in this case I don't.

Using your rationale you could say that about any transfer dealings. Arsenal could sell Sanchez for £8m to Burton and Marvin Sordell could go the other way to Arsenal for £5m. Sanchez could do nothing for Burton and Sordell be a revelation for Arsenal as Wenger finally finds that missing link !

All of that "could" happen but there is not much evidence that it will - and that is what i am saying about bringing in Wells and selling Barnes.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:12 am

We can't sell Barnes this window

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:14 am

Barnes for me is better than Vokes. We need a striker that gets stuck in, holds the ball up and puts pressure on opposition defences

To ship him out would be a mistake

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:16 am

cutsy123 wrote:Barnes for me is better than Vokes. We need a striker that gets stuck in, holds the ball up and puts pressure on opposition defences

To ship him out would be a mistake

A big mistake!

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:40 am

4/1 to go to West Brom and 1/2 to stay, would say it would take a very large sum to prize him away.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:45 am

CnBtruntru wrote:4/1 to go to West Brom and 1/2 to stay, would say it would take a very large sum to prize him away.

i would absolutely hate West brom if Ash went there.

I already don't like them.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:56 am

ClaretinMyBlood wrote:Letting Barnes go to a relegation rival would be the worst business we could do today. The fact other teams around us want him complements itself.

Pah! Relegation rival! We've beaten the Champions and drew at the runners up. Champions League football next season lads and lasses. Dare to dream.

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:51 pm

No!! We can't sell the gangling sly git with the sociopathic stare.

I'll need to be pre prepared well in advance. Even if he's only coming off the bench to make opposition supporters burst blood vessels in anger, he has to stay.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:13 pm

Wolves interest rekindled according to Nixon.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:17 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Wolves interest rekindled according to Nixon.

Not the news I want to hear.

We would be crazy to let him go in my opinion, he WOULD win us 4 or 5 points over a season in a bench role I feel.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:40 pm

we need barnes here, what point is there trying to progress in this division and willingly flogging off our best assets when it comes to being competitive?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:34 pm

If we sell Barnes I'll be absolutely disgusted

welsbyswife · Post by **welsbyswife** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:44 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:Why would we sell Barnes?
Without him we just have Vokes and Wood as Strikers
Aygei - going out on loan
Walters - Winger and occasional emergency striker
Wells - out for a few months
Just makes no sense, even if we sign another striker
Barnes is part of our fabric

Did anyone else read Salisbury Claret's post and automatically assume it was going to be a poem judging by the way it was set out? Please make it rhyme next time Salisbury!

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:36 pm

welsbyswife wrote:Did anyone else read Salisbury Claret's post and automatically assume it was going to be a poem judging by the way it was set out? Please make it rhyme next time Salisbury!

Just gave that a try - it wasn't pretty!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:39 pm

If we sold Ash to Wolves I would positively hate them too.

I already don't like them either

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:40 pm

Wouldn't be happy if Barnes left

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:15 pm

If he's happy to stay and fight let him he's a great player and bloke too by all accounts ..

Don't go Ash...