Every club's 25 man squad named or in our case 24 man squad not to worry keep the faith
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Check out some of the middle names . Dan agyei middle name is ebenezer

Cork, Jack Frank Porteous

Koiki, Abd-Al-Ali Morakinyo Olaposi 

Man City have only named an 18 man squad? Can't see that.....

Reecey1987 wrote:Check out some of the middle names . Dan agyei middle name is ebenezer

E'sss are good

Finbarr

How is Chris Wood 'home grown'?

Been in the country longer than 5 years so classes as home grown i think

Legzdins Who he?

"Been in the country longer than 5 years so classes as home grown i think"

It can't be that can it? If that was the case why not Arfield or the players from the Republic.

On another note our 24 includes Ulvestad who we were trying to move on - so seems unlikely he'll feature.

Goal keeper from birmingham

Why is Arfield not home grown?

He was Scottish until last year..

EarbyClaret wrote:"Been in the country longer than 5 years so classes as home grown i think"

It can't be that can it? If that was the case why not Arfield or the players from the Republic.

On another note our 24 includes Ulvestad who we were trying to move on - so seems unlikely he'll feature.

I think it's something from a youth age. For instance I'm pretty sure that Fabregas and Flamini are both classed as home grown played from their early days at Arsenal.

This explains it

Reecey1987 wrote:Goal keeper from birmingham

Really when did we get him and how much did he cost?

Thanks Reecey, well I never fancy me missing that.

colne-claret wrote:Why is Arfield not home grown?

He was Scottish until last year..

Because he didn't come through an English academy.

The strange one for me was when Danny Ings wasn't classed as home grown three seasons ago. Looks like he is now though, for some strange reason. Not sure how it could've changed.

Quite a few clubs with smaller squads than ours I see, including Chelsea, City and Spurs.

Chelsea have only named 21 players, I can imagine their messageboards right now...

'Get lumped on as we must be dead certs for relegation'.
'Abromovich OUT'
'Conte OUT'
'Where is the scouting system'?
'FFS all that money and we can't even assemble a squad'.
'Where is the replacement for ....'?

European competitions rules are a bit different it's 4 trained at your own club and 4 from your own nation.

So that's why some of the bigger clubs just haven't named enough, they have no players actually over 21 that came from their own academies anymore. There's little point signing 4 extra players that are limited only to play in the league.

Doesn't stop them playing youngsters though.

Also worth noting if you haven't named a full 25 you can still sign anyone who isn't signed on elsewhere. For example if Joey Barton's ban was suddenly cancelled and he was allowed to play again then we could sign him and add him to our 25.

We must be expecting Marney to be fit before January to have him in the squad

mdd2 wrote:We must be expecting Marney to be fit before January to have him in the squad

Not necessarily, but if you don't name him, you can't play him.

South West Claret. wrote:Legzdins Who he?

A few clues

http://www.uptheclarets.com/goalkeeping ... m-legzdins" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.uptheclarets.com/players/squad-list" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... =2&t=16816" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:How is Chris Wood 'home grown'?

He's been with English clubs from the age of 16. To be considered home grown you need to have been with English clubs for at least years up to the age of 21. You are only permitted 17 players in your squad who are not home grown.

Our non home grown players are therefore:

Scott Arfield
Steven Defour
Johann Berg Gudmundsson
Fredrik Ulvestad
Nahki Wells

I didn't quite understand Kevin Long as being considered home grown. He arrived at Burnley in Jan 2010 when he was 19. I can only assume it considered seasons or parts of so it would include the 2009/10 & 2010/11 season as two and then the 2011/12 season because he was born after 1st August 1990 (born on 18th August 1990).

Tall Paul wrote:The strange one for me was when Danny Ings wasn't classed as home grown three seasons ago. Looks like he is now though, for some strange reason. Not sure how it could've changed.

It can't have changed given the rules. I can only assume it was an error when he was listed as not being home grown three years ago.

Reecey1987 wrote:This explains it

There's actually a subtle difference in the actual rules. There is no requirement to have 8 homegrown players, the rule actually states that you can have no more than 17 players that do not fulfil the homegrown criteria and the rest, up to a maximum of 25, must be home grown. It is therefore possible, for example, to have a squad of 21 with just 4 homegrown players

Formerbfcmanager wrote:There's actually a subtle difference in the actual rules. There is no requirement to have 8 homegrown players, the rule actually states that you can have no more than 17 players that do not fulfil the homegrown criteria and the rest, up to a maximum of 25, must be home grown. It is therefore possible, for example, to have a squad of 21 with just 4 homegrown players

As per my post (25) - no more than 17

Danny Ings wouldn't have needed to be listed as homegrown or not 3 years ago if he met the criteria for u21 that year.

To clarify the rules on homegrown. An HGP means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

Formerbfcmanager wrote:Danny Ings wouldn't have needed to be listed as homegrown or not 3 years ago if he met the criteria for u21 that year.

To clarify the rules on homegrown. An HGP means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

The question TallPaul was asking was how Danny Ings at the age of 22 was not considered home grown but is now at the age of 25.

ClaretTony wrote:As per my post (25) - no more than 17

Indeed you did CT. I was just making the distinction that there is no requirement to have any HGPs, contrary to popular belief that you must have 8

Formerbfcmanager wrote:Danny Ings wouldn't have needed to be listed as homegrown or not 3 years ago if he met the criteria for u21 that year.

To clarify the rules on homegrown. An HGP means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

Ings was part of our 25 man PL squad that season, but wasn't included as a homegrown player. I seem to remember it being questioned at the time and the answer given was that he'd not been in an English academy for long enough.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:How is Chris Wood 'home grown'?

His full name is
Chris Burnley Wood
That's how

Given that we have him in our squad of 24/25 anyone know how he is progressing and how soon he will be training and back in some kind of games as he tries to get back to full fitness?

I met Dean at the Irish training camp
And he said his recovery was going great
But dident expect to be fit to play until the new year.

"Felix Junior Stanislas" ....gotta be the only player with the first name Felix who has played for us surely?

Shame we didn't know this as the chant of "Felix....Felix Stanislas goes down the wing for me" would have been epic!

mdd2 wrote:Given that we have him in our squad of 24/25 anyone know how he is progressing and how soon he will be training and back in some kind of games as he tries to get back to full fitness?

Doing well ...