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Words which have lost their original meaning and/or significance

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:11 pm
by Middle-agedClaret
I know that language evolves and develops - it has to. I still think that we manage to cheapen the value of our language by over-using and misusing some words. The three best (worst?) examples, IMHO, are:
1. Iconic
2. Hero
3. Celebrity.

These days, their respective definitions appear to be:

1. Has featured in a magazine style supplement
2. Does the job she/he is paid to do diligently and honestly.
3, Has been mentioned in an article in "The Sun"

Just another example of the many things that seem to irritate me. Part of slipping further into grumpy middle age, I guess. Rather like that iconic celebrity, Victor Meldrew - my hero!

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:14 pm
by Saxoman
Rock star.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:20 pm
by bfccrazy
The ones that confuse me are the youth of today using terms such as "sick", "bad", "heavy" and "peng" which all mean something is good apparently.

"Them treads are on fleek" - "those trainers are very fashionable"

The slang of today confuses me no end.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:20 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Facts

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:21 pm
by Bfcboyo
Oining

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:22 pm
by Bfcboyo
Dictionary or slang?

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:24 pm
by ClaretTony
Bfcboyo wrote:Oining
Does anyone ever use the verb to oin any more. It oins me to death that I never hear it these days.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:25 pm
by summitclaret
Lakin

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:26 pm
by Bfcboyo
Agate

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:28 pm
by Wilsdenclaret
Great Britain

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:32 pm
by Bfcboyo
IT oins me to death tother day he were agate " blank "

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:32 pm
by wilks_bfc
Gay

I know somebody that told his gran that he was gay and her reply was "ohhh. What you happy about?"

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:37 pm
by No Ney Never
When one of the judges in the voice claims that someone who's sang a song well has 'killed it'.
Once upon a time, when you killed something meant you'd made a right mess of it.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:40 pm
by Bfcboyo
Ejaculate
1800's was a term used in literature to express exaggerated speech.

He couldnt help ejaculate 'yes' he cried as she accepted his proposal.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:46 pm
by elwaclaret
Literally - so often misused its more or less lost all meaning
Sick - is apparently a good thing now
Apparently- itself - used as a filler in every other sentence.

... off the top of my head, these are the 3 that irk me most often

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:48 pm
by elwaclaret
ClaretTony wrote:Does anyone ever use the verb to oin any more. It oins me to death that I never hear it these days.
Still a regular for me. I would say it pops up at least once a day, hardly surprising with two pre-teenage lads in the house, each other, pets their mother...it has so many uses here :-D

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:55 pm
by elwaclaret
having Intercourse - as in talking
Swinger - as in a good dancer

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:02 pm
by starting_11
Wilsdenclaret wrote:Great Britain
Why what does it mean now?

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:03 pm
by Imploding Turtle
Marriage. Back in the good old days it used to mean a woman you owned.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:06 pm
by tybfc
Blackburn Rovers Football Club

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:09 pm
by starting_11
Speaking of gay.

My missus mom and dad were out (presumably in the 60s) when they happened across a pub.

They went to go in and the doorman advised them that "it's gay in there"

Her mom said "oh that's alright, we don't mind having a good time!"

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:20 pm
by Bfcboyo
Pillock . Never really hear it these days yet so many up and coming pillocks.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:42 pm
by groove
Legend. The term given to anyone who is quite well known, usually when they die.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:44 pm
by boatshed bill
Honestly.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:46 pm
by Rowls
elwaclaret wrote:having Intercourse - as in talking
Hmmmmm.

Interesting but I'm not convinced. I always believed that was the difference between having an intercourse and having intercourse.

Would be fascinating to delve further into this.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:14 pm
by LeadBelly
A quick look at today's tabloids......
Amazing = fairly decent
Incredible = run of the mill
Glamour model= tart with pumped up lips/chest
Hilarious = slightly amusing
Terrifying = slightly worrying
(Temperatures) plummeting = getting a bit colder
Astonishing = slightly surprising
Ample assets= average or slightly bigger chest
Nazi = somebody non-PC
Slams = a bit critical of
etc etc etc

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:20 pm
by Chester Perry
Progressive is the one that get's me every time I hear it - even Dyche has fallen into the trap - especially in the first promotion season - grown up a lot since then though

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:56 pm
by Dressinggown
'Decimated' used to mean to reduce by one tenth.

Nowadays (word ?) it's applied to destroy a great number or proportion of.

My mind has been decimated

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:57 pm
by Claretforever
Sick - someone mentioned above, but this is supposed to mean great now, apparently? What? How?

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:59 pm
by Rowls
Dressinggown wrote:'Decimated' used to mean to reduce by one tenth.

Nowadays (word ?) it's applied to destroy a great number or proportion of.

My mind has been decimated
I was of the belief it originally it meant literally to kill one tenth of a population.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:08 pm
by Vino blanco
Decimate was originally used to mean the killing, possibly by lot, of every tenth man in an army unit, as a form of punishment.

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:24 pm
by Bop
Smack, dope, whizz, coke

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:17 am
by kicker_conspiracy
'Sick' is a word that cab driver's ears are trained to pick out from a load of nonsense that they are otherwise trying to ignore. Along with 'ill', 'not feeling well' etc.

Passengers would be well advised to use other terminology to avoid being stranded a long walk from home.

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:49 am
by thatdberight
Rowls wrote:Hmmmmm.

Interesting but I'm not convinced. I always believed that was the difference between having an intercourse and having intercourse.

Would be fascinating to delve further into this.
Context will make the meaning very clear but "having intercourse" could have multiple meanings. I think "an intercourse" would be wrong as it's a mass noun but I'm not much of an entomologist...

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:04 am
by spadesclaret
thatdberight wrote: but I'm not much of an entomologist...
Brilliant! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:46 am
by OffTheBar
Disinterested now seems to be the same as uninterested.

And that annoys me.

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:05 am
by COYC73
Humanity....Not a lot of it about any more!

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:17 am
by Siddo
So has now become the opening word in most statements.

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:35 am
by ExistentialWanderer
LeadBelly wrote: Hilarious = slightly amusing
This! I can't remember the last time I watched a comedy or movie that was dubbed 'Hilarious' and found myself actually raising much more than an occasional chuckle at best.

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:53 am
by COYC73
ExistentialWanderer wrote:This! I can't remember the last time I watched a comedy or movie that was dubbed 'Hilarious' and found myself actually raising much more than an occasional chuckle at best.
Dumb & Dumber (The 1st one).......That was the last film I watched where I properly laughed! Though I don't tend to watch many comedies these days....

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:52 am
by strayclaret
Absolutely, why does everyone say it?. It absolutely does my head in :lol:

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:09 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
"Loyalty" - especially in the Football context. Who was the last player at t'Turf to play over 300 games for us? Dobo? Stevenson?

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:39 pm
by Chobulous
National Treasure, used to describe anyone who has either been promoted beyond their talent by Simon Cowell or has hung around too long and is wheeled out to occasionally fill out the Jonathan Ross Show

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:40 pm
by Claretto
Andre

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:48 pm
by paulus the woodgnome
Wood

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:50 pm
by claptrappers_union
Literally - people use the word to describe something in a non-literal sense these days

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:52 pm
by bfcjg
Hump once of a day it was carrying a load , now it's shooting one.

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:52 pm
by bfccrazy
Liverpool away .....

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:28 pm
by Nonayforever
Politician - used to be someone who helped to run the country, now its someone who lies whilst keeping a straight face.

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:30 pm
by FactualFrank
Bumfuzzle.

You don't really hear much of it these days.