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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 10:46 am

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The Premier League got a kick in the proverbial's yesterday and it has made some believe again, particularly that Parry has already tried to get the Premier League to change it's stance on the Parachute payment, the "evil" being used as a symbol of frustration and cry for external regulation to change the Premier Leagues in transient position

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/12 ... 3816024064

for now the Premier League are still fighting their corner

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ated-clubs

It is interesting because half the Premier League have been in the Championship in the last decade, so know full well the advantages/disadvantages of the Parachute Payments. Especially those that have managed to get there without them. The numbers are stark

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/12 ... 8893658113

the reasoning for the Premier Leagues stance is possibly best summed up this

https://twitter.com/AgainstLeague3/stat ... 6864691201
The academics climb on board the Parachute Payments distort the game train to remind the Premier league that there is plenty of research that contradicts the Premier Leagues stance

https://twitter.com/DrRob_Wilson/status ... 8621669376

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 10:59 am

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Wed May 06, 2020 10:10 am
They are stark numbers Chester
Very easy to see why so many fans have fallen out of love with the game.
Take teams like Leeds, Forest, Birmingham, Derby etc - have these ever had parachute payments ? Feels a long time since they were in the top league so probably not. These are big historical clubs in big cities. It’s so hard for them to compete and it’s takes years of huge losses to even try.
Leeds look like they’ve managed it at last but look at what the club have been through to get there - quite a bit of it self inflicted I accept.
last seasons in the Premier League

2010/2011 Birmingham City received Parachute Payments
2007/2008 Derby received Parachute Payments (first introduced previous season)
2003/2004 Leeds No Parachute Payments
1999/2000 Sheffield Wednesday No Parachute Payments
1998/1999 Nottingham Forest No Parachute Payments

Since the introduction of Parachute Payments I don't think any club as achieved promotion for a less accumulative loss than Burnley - in each of it's 3 promotions. By that I mean the all the losses accrued in the Championship over the years since introduction.
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 11:21 am

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Wed May 06, 2020 10:46 am
The academics climb on board the Parachute Payments distort the game train to remind the Premier league that there is plenty of research that contradicts the Premier Leagues stance

https://twitter.com/DrRob_Wilson/status ... 8621669376
The research paper mentioned in that thread - Parachute Payments in English Football: Softening the landing or distorting the balance - is here

http://shura.shu.ac.uk/17115/3/Wilson-P ... 8AM%29.pdf

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 11:35 am

Middle East airlines have shown themselves to be massive sponsors of sport in a bid to make themselves known in the global market - the prominent players being Qatar Airways, Etihad and Emirates

They have been as competitive in their sponsorship as they have been in the air - Remember the Man City shirt sponsorship change for the Emirates FA Cup final - "Choose Etihad"

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/man-city-ac ... nal-232167

well it appears that the two of those sponsors are now working closely together to enable "synergies" while the third is struggling

https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/statu ... 9528104961

- what does that mean for football sponsorship

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 11:41 am

China continues to use football in it's global powerplay - Simon Chadwick in Policy Forum - Symbolic stadiums and pandemic power plays: Is Guangzhou’s new Lotus Flower Stadium a statement of intent from China?

https://www.policyforum.net/symbolic-st ... wer-plays/

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 11:52 am

Some good words and astute points from the Darlington Chief Exec here - from NonLeagueDaily.com - much that echoes what Rick Parry said yesterday about the EFL (and they already have some financial fair-play measures)

Darlington ‘sustainable through this year’ says CEO Johnston
May 5, 2020 | Headlines, newsnow

Darlington chief executive officer David Johnston has said that the club are in a reasonable position to deal with the current struggles for the game, but he has urged fundamental changes to be made to protect clubs.

In an update to supporters, Johnston said: “This threat of litigation (from clubs) has come about based around financial mismanagement right the way through the Football League system. Darlington have suffered from that in the past.

“We’re in a good position here; our cash flow is decent, we are sustainable through this year. We’re sustainable through until Christmas.

“Okay, we’ve got to manage our creditors and do things professionally, but we’re not in as bad a place as a lot of these clubs that we’re looking at here. I’ve got a feeling that is gonna change, we might even see league structures change, you might see League Two change or merge, north and south, with Conference.

“You might see changes at our level, north and south, but one thing I think that we should be doing – and I’ve got to work out the best way of getting this message out or writing to the league around it – there is no financial fairplay in the lower leagues. There’s rich benefactors, and there’s an argument which says if they want to put their money into a football club, let them.

“It can’t be good for the security of our game if those clubs all of a sudden disappear overnight because the benefactors can’t put money in any more. That’s not good for the Football League.

“It’s not good that our league is beheld to threats of litigation, and therefore, reluctant to make decisions for fear of being sued.”

Johnston adds: “So my thoughts around this are why don’t we have a club set its budget based on its gate receipts? ‘How much have you got?’

“Paying fans coming through the door equals ‘x’, and you can double that with commercial sponsorship to ‘y’. So that way you have a model where your fans coming through the door, say there’s quarter-of-a-million pounds of revenue coming through the door, and you then say ‘right, we’re only allowed to make quarter-of-a-million pounds of commercial revenue.

“If I’m the rich benefactor, that’s all I can put in, subject to what’s been put in by the fans. You then have financial fairplay based on a sound financial model of how clubs can be sustainable, based on setting a budget based on what they can afford.

“I think we’ve got to return to something like that.”
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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 12:15 pm

@AndyhHolt has certainly been re-energised by Rick Parry's performance yesterday - really letting fly today

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/12 ... 7585124352

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/12 ... 6688295937

as have others who have been fighting the battle

https://twitter.com/uglygame/status/1257957779207307269

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 12:29 pm

amidst all the talk of Parachute Payments it should not be forgotten that Rick PArry also took aim at the PFA as well yesterday

https://twitter.com/_PaulHayward/status ... 3167496193

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 1:02 pm

KPMG's Football Benchmark release a new report where they analyse what factors impact player values with football on hold, and provide value estimates for two potential scenarios – a cancellation and a completion of the season. It is already exciting some parts of the media

https://footballbenchmark.com/documents ... 0final.pdf

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 1:07 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:02 pm
KPMG's Football Benchmark release a new report where they analyse what factors impact player values with football on hold, and provide value estimates for two potential scenarios – a cancellation and a completion of the season. It is already exciting some parts of the media

https://footballbenchmark.com/documents ... 0final.pdf
Which feeds nicely into this - Damien Comolli on how a few clubs are going to sweep up this summer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... arket.html

All of which makes you understand why Aston Villa and Brighton (with cash rich owners) have been so keen to remove relegation this summer

the interesting aspect here will be the question of transfer embargoes on clubs who have asked players to cut/defer pay or who have furloughed staff - if UEFA were minded to do that across Europe it would absolutely kill values with so few clubs in the Big 5 leagues (many in the Premier League) who have not done so. It is unlikely that UEFA will do so but you could see Real Madrid, PSG , Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City campaigning for it

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 1:33 pm

all of which (see previous post) will intensify the focus on Academies - this article about Valencia's Academy - clearly highlights some of the issues that creates

https://www.soccerex.com/insight/articl ... -academies

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 1:40 pm

Following all the recent news from Comcast, Disney have spoken about the impacts of the pandemic - they own ESPN a major sports rights owner in the Americas. they believe 1st quarter earnings are 41.4 billion down even with the roaring success of Disney+

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/espn ... y-on-hold/

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 1:42 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 9:47 am
More Vultures are at the door - CVC Capital (former shareholders of F! and now involved in the six nations rugby) are, along with Blackstone, in talks to buy part of Serie A - CVC apparently offering Euro 2 Billion for a 20% stake

https://twitter.com/muradahmed/status/1 ... 0489522177
More detail on those CVC Capital/Serie A talks -

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/cvc- ... investment

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 1:48 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:42 pm
More detail on those CVC Capital/Serie A talks -

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/cvc- ... investment
I actually think this is quite an astute move for CVC - there is no doubt the big Italian clubs are on the rise again, with lots of overseas investment - particularly from the USA and China, which should make for a much more competitive league that has seen Juventus win the last 8 titles on the bounce (they are being pushed very hard this year). Seri A also has a huge residual legacy of interest from when it dominated international tv markets in the 90's-

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 2:04 pm

The lack of live sport around the globe has seen previously unlikely rights opportunities (Swedish trotting anyone - https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/1094 ... den-during) in football that has seen Belarussian football broadcast around the world despite safety issues. For countries where the authorities were quick to manage the pandemic this as seen opportunities for their sports as they emerge earliest from the lockdown. For South Korea that is seeing their baseball league being shown live in the USA and now their Football league is being signed up in Europe too

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/live ... gue%20deal

of course German football has a longer history than most with South Korean players

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 2:11 pm

Meanwhile the rush for the European big leagues to return is the prize to gain fresh eyes on, and hopefully new affinity for, their product while no one else is playing. Here you could say that the British Government that loves to use the Premier League to win hearts and minds abroad and to distract from their own failings at home, has played a significant role in hampering the Premier Leagues chances of acquiring those vital export revenues. Hence the more recent encouragement to get the Premier League back up and running to help the morale of the nation

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 2:17 pm

The ruckus in Scotland over the cancelling of the season continues - so did Gretna receive a loan in 2008 or not? the question is important as the non-repayment is cited as a factor in the approach taken

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... eason-spfl

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 2:43 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 10:59 am
last seasons in the Premier League

2010/2011 Birmingham City received Parachute Payments
2007/2008 Derby received Parachute Payments (first introduced previous season)
2003/2004 Leeds No Parachute Payments
1999/2000 Sheffield Wednesday No Parachute Payments
1998/1999 Nottingham Forest No Parachute Payments

Since the introduction of Parachute Payments I don't think any club as achieved promotion for a less accumulative loss than Burnley - in each of it's 3 promotions. By that I mean the all the losses accrued in the Championship over the years since introduction.
There is no doubt that the presence of these clubs along with the yo-yo-ing of the likes of West Ham and Villa is what has kept the values of the EFL distribution rights relatively high in comparison to non top 5 European Leagues.

there is also no doubt that the Premier League would prefer them all to be in the top flight at the expense of the likes of Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley, Crystal Palace as it would increase/stabilise the value of their rights. Only the addition of Rangers and Celtic could potentially strengthen them more.

EDIT somehow I missed Sunderland, also Middlesbrough generate much bigger crowds (and would spend more money - Bournemouth excepted) than the 4 I mentioned as being regarded as too small

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 4:20 pm

just come across a new set of football Business related podcasts - I bought a football club - the content looks interesting so I will be giving them a go

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0c ... Jzcw%3D%3D

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 7:09 pm

An Extensive article on the BBC featuring input from EFL club officials on the challenges posed by the coronavirus pandemic

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52562856

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 7:26 pm

the chaps @Vysyble join the parachute payments debate

https://twitter.com/vysyble/status/1258076297844199427

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 8:53 pm

The 4th article in the Guardian's Future of Football series - Women's football sides most at risk are those without a men’s team

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -alongside

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 9:20 pm

Everyday (it seems) we learn of new ways that the big clubs make or (as it is currently) lose money - here the Mail informs us that the biggest are likely to lose revenue this summer not just because they cannot play those lucrative tour matches, but because their major sponsors have clauses in their contracts as tot he regions those matches are played in (and probably how many).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... broad.html

sometimes it is a joy to be a small, well run club that chooses not to overstretch itself financially of physically (though I suspect we were not that far away from being persuaded to join that particular bandwagon, whatever Sean Dyche would prefer, as the finance would have been too good to turn down.

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Post by Royboyclaret » Wed May 06, 2020 10:09 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 9:20 pm
Everyday (it seems) we learn of new ways that the big clubs make or (as it is currently) lose money - here the Mail informs us that the biggest are likely to lose revenue this summer not just because they cannot play those lucrative tour matches, but because their major sponsors have clauses in their contracts as tot he regions those matches are played in (and probably how many).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... broad.html

sometimes it is a joy to be a small, well run club that chooses not to overstretch itself financially of physically (though I suspect we were not that far away from being persuaded to join that particular bandwagon, whatever Sean Dyche would prefer, as the finance would have been too good to turn down.
Believe it or not, Chester, Burnley were one of the first clubs responsible for getting this particular bandwagon on the road. At first I thought it had to be down to Bob Lord and another of his clever ideas for adding to our bank balance, but the plan pre-dated Lord by a long way.

We undertook a tour of Italy in May 1922 which proved to be most lucrative, followed by many more including a hectic summer tour of Germany and Holland in 1927, Scandinavia in May 1948 and my favourite of all a tour of Spain in May 1949. One of my most treasured photos is of the Burnley team (including Tommy Cummings) lining up opposite Real Madrid at the Bernabeu Stadium in front of more than 65,000 fans. We drew 0-0 before going on to beat both Deportiva la Coruna and finally the mighty Barcelona.
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Post by Chester Perry » Wed May 06, 2020 10:14 pm

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Believe it or not, Chester, Burnley were one of the first clubs responsible for getting this particular bandwagon on the road. At first I thought it had to be down to Bob Lord and another of his clever ideas for adding to our bank balance, but the plan pre-dated Lord by a long way.

We undertook a tour of Italy in May 1922 which proved to be most lucrative, followed by many more including a hectic summer tour of Germany and Holland in 1927, Scandinavia in May 1948 and my favourite of all a tour of Spain in May 1949. One of my most treasured photos is of the Burnley team (including Tommy Cummings) lining up opposite Real Madrid at the Bernabeu Stadium in front of more than 65,000 fans. We drew 0-0 before going on to beat both Deportiva la Coruna and finally the mighty Barcelona.
Like you, I thought it was a Bob Lord thing - I knew about his tours but the earlier ones have surprised me - though may account for some of the fans we have in those countries, in the same way as our friend DaveManu

Quite likely that the Madrid team we faced had that incredible and famous line up then

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Post by Royboyclaret » Wed May 06, 2020 10:21 pm

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Wed May 06, 2020 10:14 pm
Like you, I thought it was a Bob Lord thing - I knew about his tours but the earlier ones have surprised me - though may account for some of the fans we have in those countries, in the same way as our friend DaveManu

Quite likely that the Madrid team we faced had that incredible and famous line up then
Indeed, Mauritius was a regular visit at one time and Jimmy Mac's favourite destination. He was introduced to davemanu (Bhurdwaz Mungur) on one occasion. I think that's what started the latter's love of the Clarets.

Then, of course, there was the arduous tour to the USA to take part in the New York tournament in 1960.

Be interesting if anyone on here can name our first goalscorer on foreign soil and the name of our opponents?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed May 06, 2020 11:54 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 7:26 pm
the chaps @Vysyble join the parachute payments debate

https://twitter.com/vysyble/status/1258076297844199427
Is the use/requirement of parachute payments starting to come to an end?
If a wage cap was introduced and properly enforced in the championship, to include relegated teams, then it gets rid of the need for parachute payments doesn't it?
Especially if PL clubs are required to include relegation clauses in all contracts.
Naturally they'd need to regulate all the potential financial clauses too.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 1:14 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 11:54 pm
Is the use/requirement of parachute payments starting to come to an end?
If a wage cap was introduced and properly enforced in the championship, to include relegated teams, then it gets rid of the need for parachute payments doesn't it?
Especially if PL clubs are required to include relegation clauses in all contracts.
Naturally they'd need to regulate all the potential financial clauses too.
The correlation between wages and on field success has been shown repeatedly in study after study

The problem as it currently stands is that the Premier League wants some semblance of competitiveness to sell it's product, consequently it distributes it's incomes more fairly than any other European League to encourage teams to keep their squads competitive. They do not want newly promoted teams to give up before they started and run with the money (the reason why we were so unpopular in our first two promotions). So they gave them more protected revenue (Parachute Payments) to encourage them to sign better players safe in the knowledge that contracts could be paid out if relegation occurred allowing for mutually acceptable relegation clause in contracts, that still meant the were amongst the top earners in the division.

Good players tend to only join the newly promoted/weaker teams on multi-year contracts if they pay the going Premier League rates. Championship revenues for clubs (without Parachute Payments) suggest a cap of £6k per week, In the Premier league the average wage is 10+ times that (not us I would add) - how do you get a player to sign for a multi year contract (to protect the transfer fee) for a relegation candidate, knowing that if relegated the wage would be decimated, players would not accept such a loss.

Players wouldn't do it, so promoted clubs are back in the position of take the money and run - that is the dichotomy of the Parachute payment - the Premier League pays them because they want their league to be competitive, the EFL hates them because they make their league either uncompetitive or unsustainable. So far the Pay master has won by paying the "solidarity payment".

Somewhat bizarrely. if a relegated club wins immediate promotion back to the Premier League the EFL wins as they get the remaining Parachute Payments to distribute to their clubs (I think this is still the case). The Premier League won't say it, but they prefer that scenario as it means the promoted club starts in a relatively stronger financial position thus allowing them to be more competitive, the more this happens the theoretically stronger the league gets.

The EFL want the Parachute money to be added to the Solidarity Payments, as a means of reducing the financial gap, that would facilitate a salary cap of around £12k. Premier League clubs struggle to get players to sign relegation clauses of 40% - 50% in those instance players would still be on north of £20k as a minimum and often much more. How do you balance it without forcing the relegated club to replace much of it's squad, probably selling players at a loss in most cases and forcing them to deal with the attendant problems that would bring?

EDIT - I wrote all that then found this which essentially says the same thing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -shop.html

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu May 07, 2020 8:54 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 11:52 am
Some good words and astute points from the Darlington Chief Exec here - from NonLeagueDaily.com - much that echoes what Rick Parry said yesterday about the EFL (and they already have some financial fair-play measures)

Darlington ‘sustainable through this year’ says CEO Johnston
May 5, 2020 | Headlines, newsnow

Darlington chief executive officer David Johnston has said that the club are in a reasonable position to deal with the current struggles for the game, but he has urged fundamental changes to be made to protect clubs.

In an update to supporters, Johnston said: “This threat of litigation (from clubs) has come about based around financial mismanagement right the way through the Football League system. Darlington have suffered from that in the past.

“We’re in a good position here; our cash flow is decent, we are sustainable through this year. We’re sustainable through until Christmas.

“Okay, we’ve got to manage our creditors and do things professionally, but we’re not in as bad a place as a lot of these clubs that we’re looking at here. I’ve got a feeling that is gonna change, we might even see league structures change, you might see League Two change or merge, north and south, with Conference.

“You might see changes at our level, north and south, but one thing I think that we should be doing – and I’ve got to work out the best way of getting this message out or writing to the league around it – there is no financial fairplay in the lower leagues. There’s rich benefactors, and there’s an argument which says if they want to put their money into a football club, let them.

“It can’t be good for the security of our game if those clubs all of a sudden disappear overnight because the benefactors can’t put money in any more. That’s not good for the Football League.

“It’s not good that our league is beheld to threats of litigation, and therefore, reluctant to make decisions for fear of being sued.”

Johnston adds: “So my thoughts around this are why don’t we have a club set its budget based on its gate receipts? ‘How much have you got?’

“Paying fans coming through the door equals ‘x’, and you can double that with commercial sponsorship to ‘y’. So that way you have a model where your fans coming through the door, say there’s quarter-of-a-million pounds of revenue coming through the door, and you then say ‘right, we’re only allowed to make quarter-of-a-million pounds of commercial revenue.

“If I’m the rich benefactor, that’s all I can put in, subject to what’s been put in by the fans. You then have financial fairplay based on a sound financial model of how clubs can be sustainable, based on setting a budget based on what they can afford.

“I think we’ve got to return to something like that.”
My local club, and port of call in the international breaks.They've been through the mill have Darlo, and finally coming out the other end of the tunnel. Back playing in Darlington, and bar a few iffy games early doors flirted with the play offs. The gates are still good, especially for that level. Football should be about helping the leagues, rather than the individual clubs.
I well remember hating PPs, before 2010. It was an unfair advantage then, yet for a club the size of Burnley, even as superbly run as we were by the board, those same PPs were essential. The gulf between what we spend to try and maintain Premiership football, and the cost of relegation could have broken us. The point is, it wasn't Burnleys fault that there is a gulf between the Premier League and the Championship, we didn't create it. The question is how do you close that gap without cutting the riches on offer in the Premier League, it's impossible UNLESS those clubs involved are prepared to cuts across the board.
One of those where everybody knows what needs to be done, but the only ones with the power to do it, would never sanction it.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 9:52 am

@SwissRamble looks at the finances of Ligue 1 after the season was ended prematurely by the French government

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 6580388866

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Post by clansman » Thu May 07, 2020 9:57 am

Royboy asked who was our first goal on foreign soil against.

It was 1914 in Hungary at Ferencváros ground.we drew 1.1 in an invitation game against Celtic. Tommy Boyle scored our penalty!

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu May 07, 2020 10:03 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 8:54 am
My local club, and port of call in the international breaks.They've been through the mill have Darlo, and finally coming out the other end of the tunnel. Back playing in Darlington, and bar a few iffy games early doors flirted with the play offs. The gates are still good, especially for that level. Football should be about helping the leagues, rather than the individual clubs.
I well remember hating PPs, before 2010. It was an unfair advantage then, yet for a club the size of Burnley, even as superbly run as we were by the board, those same PPs were essential. The gulf between what we spend to try and maintain Premiership football, and the cost of relegation could have broken us. The point is, it wasn't Burnleys fault that there is a gulf between the Premier League and the Championship, we didn't create it. The question is how do you close that gap without cutting the riches on offer in the Premier League, it's impossible UNLESS those clubs involved are prepared to cuts across the board.
One of those where everybody knows what needs to be done, but the only ones with the power to do it, would never sanction it.
Football needs to return to being a sport, not a business. That means a level playing field. As they can’t cap player salary they have to cap squad salary. From day 1 the game would be great again. Bigger crowds throughout knowing you have a chance off winning something.
They should look to American sport, where all the financial rules are designed to keep the sport even.
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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu May 07, 2020 10:04 am

clansman wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 9:57 am
Royboy asked who was our first goal on foreign soil against.

It was 1914 in Hungary at Ferencváros ground.we drew 1.1 in an invitation game against Celtic. Tommy Boyle scored our penalty!
Close but no cigar, clansman.

That was the second game of the tour following our arrival in Hungary after a 17 hour train journey from Germany.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu May 07, 2020 10:32 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:03 am
Football needs to return to being a sport, not a business. That means a level playing field. As they can’t cap player salary they have to cap squad salary. From day 1 the game would be great again. Bigger crowds throughout knowing you have a chance off winning something.
They should look to American sport, where all the financial rules are designed to keep the sport even.
I agree, but as I said those that have the power aren't interested. It lost its way with Scudamore and his like, any Sport being organised by bankers is doomed to lose its grass roots, because they couldn't give a toss about grass roots, all they care about is money.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu May 07, 2020 10:32 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:03 am
Football needs to return to being a sport, not a business. That means a level playing field. As they can’t cap player salary they have to cap squad salary. From day 1 the game would be great again. Bigger crowds throughout knowing you have a chance off winning something.
They should look to American sport, where all the financial rules are designed to keep the sport even.
It became a business when the likes of Blackburn Olympic started paying players way back when.

If you want it to become just a sport then you'll need to watch the amateur leagues that don't pay players.

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Post by clansman » Thu May 07, 2020 12:33 pm

Roy our
Sorry you’re right! Berlin Victoria and Richard Lindley got the first in. 2.1 win!

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu May 07, 2020 12:46 pm

clansman wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 12:33 pm
Roy our
Sorry you’re right! Berlin Victoria and Richard Lindley got the first in. 2.1 win!
Spot on, clansman.

Bert Freeman scored our second. What a team that was, very similar to the one that won the FA Cup just a couple of weeks earlier........Dawson, Bamford, Taylor, Halley, Boyle & Watson, Nesbitt, Lindley, Freeman, Hodgson & Grice.

I think Dick Lindley only played because our magician Bob Kelly was still sick from the overnight sail.

Just a mere 104 years between our first goal on foreign soil and Chris Wood's goal at Olympiacos in 2018.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 1:36 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 1:14 am
The correlation between wages and on field success has been shown repeatedly in study after study

The problem as it currently stands is that the Premier League wants some semblance of competitiveness to sell it's product, consequently it distributes it's incomes more fairly than any other European League to encourage teams to keep their squads competitive. They do not want newly promoted teams to give up before they started and run with the money (the reason why we were so unpopular in our first two promotions). So they gave them more protected revenue (Parachute Payments) to encourage them to sign better players safe in the knowledge that contracts could be paid out if relegation occurred allowing for mutually acceptable relegation clause in contracts, that still meant the were amongst the top earners in the division.

Good players tend to only join the newly promoted/weaker teams on multi-year contracts if they pay the going Premier League rates. Championship revenues for clubs (without Parachute Payments) suggest a cap of £6k per week, In the Premier league the average wage is 10+ times that (not us I would add) - how do you get a player to sign for a multi year contract (to protect the transfer fee) for a relegation candidate, knowing that if relegated the wage would be decimated, players would not accept such a loss.

Players wouldn't do it, so promoted clubs are back in the position of take the money and run - that is the dichotomy of the Parachute payment - the Premier League pays them because they want their league to be competitive, the EFL hates them because they make their league either uncompetitive or unsustainable. So far the Pay master has won by paying the "solidarity payment".

Somewhat bizarrely. if a relegated club wins immediate promotion back to the Premier League the EFL wins as they get the remaining Parachute Payments to distribute to their clubs (I think this is still the case). The Premier League won't say it, but they prefer that scenario as it means the promoted club starts in a relatively stronger financial position thus allowing them to be more competitive, the more this happens the theoretically stronger the league gets.

The EFL want the Parachute money to be added to the Solidarity Payments, as a means of reducing the financial gap, that would facilitate a salary cap of around £12k. Premier League clubs struggle to get players to sign relegation clauses of 40% - 50% in those instance players would still be on north of £20k as a minimum and often much more. How do you balance it without forcing the relegated club to replace much of it's squad, probably selling players at a loss in most cases and forcing them to deal with the attendant problems that would bring?

EDIT - I wrote all that then found this which essentially says the same thing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -shop.html
Here is the lists of average salaries of for the top 5 leagues including bonuses - equate ours to the proposed salary caps in the EFL

https://twitter.com/sportingintel/statu ... 96/photo/1

I also forgot to mention that some clubs take Premier League Parachute Payments down to League one Sunderland, Blackburn and Wigan immediately spring to mind and I think Portsmouth possibly Blackpool
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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 1:43 pm

Part 5 of the Guardian's Future of Football/How will the game change - 'This could be the end of the grassroots game'

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... non-league

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 1:58 pm

Macclesfield given a further 7 point deduction for failure to pay players before the pause -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52574839

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

Swift retribution from the Bundesliga to a rights holder that had stopped paying them

https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1 ... 3572110336

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 6:20 pm

With all the hoo-haa about neutral venues and efforts to scrap relegation the chaps at Vysyble have had a quick look at the cost of relegation \for thise currently at risk in the Premier League - as you can imagine it is not a pretty picture in the current climates of no matchday revenue next season together with reduced TV and commercial revenues

https://twitter.com/sportingintel/statu ... 96/photo/1

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 6:33 pm

A thread on Adidas - a major shirt supplier with some huge deals with equally big clubs that are on pay up-front deals at ta time when they are witnessing a collapse in sales. - I think in the new normal, the kind of deal Nike have struck with Liverpool will become much more prevalent

https://twitter.com/Lu_Class_/status/12 ... 9798115329

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 7:23 pm

La Liga President Javier Tebas wants the Premier League to block the Saudi backed bid for Newcastle - for the sake of protecting football's intellectual property.

https://apnews.com/319f05b62629c4dd113524d38af5d147

Not sure how he expects that to happen when the Spanish Football federation hold the final states of it's Super Cup there,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51042079

even if he expressed his anger about that at the time

https://www.wionews.com/sports/money-is ... bia-275787

and his own member clubs struck deals in 2018 (BeOutQ was already in operation) with the Saudi Federation to take players on loan free of charge and with additional sponsorships)

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -world-cup

however poorly it fared

https://en.as.com/en/2018/05/15/footbal ... 79094.html

You have to think that he is more worried about the potential for yet another English super rich club, threatening the growth of his league and the ability of his members to compete financially

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 7:31 pm

Another legal advisory piece this time from Sheridan's - one of the most reputable Sports Law practices in Europe on the very topical subject of:


Claims by clubs in the event of a cancelled season

In this short piece, Andrew Nixon and Alex Harvey of Sheridans Sports Group, and David Reade QC and Nick Siddall QC of the Littleton Sports Group consider some of the potential claims which may arise from league seasons being cancelled, with a particular focus on the Premier League. The authors also look at how any losses may be assessed.

Bill Shankly famously observed “Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.”. The prescience of that observation may be demonstrated in the near future with clubs troubled by the financial ramifications of proposals as regards completion of seasons in the major European football leagues.

On 1 May 2020, the Premier League clubs met to discuss plans to restart, and complete, the 2019/20 season. According to the press release, the clubs discussed a number of possible ways to resume the season, including utilising neutral venues. Ultimately the league and clubs will only return to training and playing subject to Government guidance, under expert advice and after consultation with players and managers.

In other words, there is still no clarity on when, or indeed if, it will be possible to resume.

During the last few weeks we have seen the SPFL bring the lower-league seasons in Scotland to an end; a decision which resulted in the automatic relegation of Partick Thistle and Stranraer FC from the Championship and League One respectively. We have also seen the RFU cancel the remainder of the 2019-20 domestic rugby season (excluding the Premiership).

Those decisions, whilst in themselves significant, are not wholly unexpected in view of the relatively limited revenue generated by those leagues. However, the bringing to an end last week of Ligue 1 in France (with PSG now confirmed as Champions) has brought into sharp focus the challenges faced by the major sports leagues which remain focused on completing their seasons

Clearly there may come a time when the likes of the Premier League and EFL will have little option other than to follow suit. If that happens, whether the season is ‘voided’, decided on an ‘as it stands basis’ or determined on final standings calculated on a best playing record formula (akin to what the RFU used to determine the Championship standings) then there are likely to be legal challenges and claims given the significant financial consequences for the affected clubs. The example of the steps taken by Rangers in Scotland is not to be ignored.

Unfair Prejudice Petitions
The majority of leagues are structured in such a way that their member clubs essentially “own” the leagues as shareholders. This company structure is, for example, adopted by the Premier League (which is owned by the 20 Premier League clubs); and the EFL (which is owned by the 72 clubs in the Championship, League One and League Two). A not dissimilar structure is adopted by Premiership Rugby (albeit there are 13 shareholders, with 12 participating in the Premiership at any one time). All of this means that the leagues and the member clubs are bound together and governed not just by contract (namely, the rules and regulations of the relevant league) but also by company law.

This therefore allows the prospect of unfair prejudice petitions under section 994 of the Companies Act 2006 (“CA”) as an avenue of recourse for aggrieved clubs. These may be clubs which miss out on the opportunity to be promoted, or end up being relegated, as with, for example, Partick Thistle and Stranraer.
Section 994 CA provides:

“A member of a company may apply to the Court ...... on the ground (a) that the company’s affairs are being or have been conducted in a manner that is unfairly prejudicial to the interests of members generally or of some part of its members (including at least himself); or (b) that an actual or proposed act or omission of the company (including an act or omission on its behalf) is or would be so prejudicial.”

In the case of the Premier League, if the season came to an end tomorrow with the final league places determined ‘as it stands’, AFC Bournemouth, Aston Villa and Norwich would be relegated. In addition to being able to argue that such a decision would breach the prevailing regulations (thus the admitting of a contractual claim) any such decision would also prejudice those shareholders. The same could also be said of Wolves and Sheffield United, who would narrowly miss out on European qualification.

Unfair prejudice petitions are not straightforward. Whilst it is fair to state that the decision referred to above would be prejudicial, that is in itself insufficient. An aggrieved club would also need to demonstrate that the actions of the league, or the other shareholders acting as a majority, were unfair and this is an objective test: i.e. would a reasonable bystander consider the actions of the company to be unfair. A good starting point is the contract between the shareholder and company (for example, in this case the articles of association and league rules), and in normal circumstances satisfying this objective test would be eminently achievable. However, in a COVID-19 ‘world’ it may be that the Courts will be prepared to take into account the unique circumstances of the pandemic, particularly if ending the season became unavoidable from a public health perspective or if, say, the Government intervenes (as has happened in France).

What would happen if a club was successful with any such petition?
If the Court agreed that the minority shareholder, in this case an aggrieved club, had been treated in an unfairly prejudicial manner, it has a number of remedies available to it. Amongst others, it can pass an order regulating the company’s future affairs or require the company to refrain from doing or continuing an act complained of, or to do an act which the petitioner has complained that it has omitted to do.

In the present scenario, that might involve seeking a remedy in which the Court requires the relevant league to refrain from sanctioning a decision which leads to certain outcomes, such as relegation. It would remain to be seen whether, given the circumstances of COVID-19 and the general reluctance of Courts to intervene in sporting matters, such a remedy would be ordered. Plainly, any decision by the league is going to lead to aggrieved shareholders: their identities varying on the basis of the decision reached, and all of this would need to be weighed up by the Court. Indeed, even if the season is completed, by the use of a series of neutral venues, as has been mooted, that decision in itself may still result in certain clubs being prejudiced (for example, if a club near the relegation zone has the advantage of its stadium being used as one of the neutral venues). That would complete the season, but there could still be a question as to whether there would be unfair prejudice to certain shareholders.

One alternative remedy might be for the Court to exercise its power to authorise civil proceedings, subject to terms directed by the Court. This can be a particularly powerful remedy, as it enables an action to be pursued by the Company, meaning that the majority of the costs of that action would then be borne by the Company rather than by the petitioner, and would also enable the petitioner to seek damages, which may, in reality, prove to be the only feasible remedy for aggrieved clubs.

Loss of chance?
Of course, a unique aspect of any claim by an aggrieved club is that the club’s loss would not have crystallised. For instance, it is perfectly feasible that Norwich, Bournemouth and Aston Villa will be, or would have been, relegated at the end of this month. The Court would also, at least in the context of a damages claim, have to assess a number of hypothetical outcomes where the claimant is deprived of the opportunity to obtain a benefit: namely, promotion, or not being relegated (or winning a league, or winning a European place). But the Court would not need to come to a firm conclusion on those hypothetical outcomes.

In the seminal loss of chance decision of Chaplin v Hicks (1911), an actress, Miss Chaplin, successfully brought a claim for loss of the chance to win a beauty contest after the defendant had failed to invite her to the final stage of the contest in breach of contract. Whilst the court acknowledged that it is difficult to assess damages for loss of chance, it went on to emphasise that “the fact that damages cannot be assessed with certainty does not relieve the wrongdoer of the necessity of paying damages”. The case of Sheffield United v West Ham (2008), arising from West Ham’s signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano in breach of prevailing third party ownership regulations, is also notable in this context. Sheffield United’s claim dated back to the 2006-07 season when Tevez played a major role in helping West Ham avoid relegation, at the expense of Sheffield United. In April 2007 West Ham were fined £5.5m by the Premier League for breaching the rules in relation to Tevez (and Mascherano) but were not docked any points. Sheffield United lost their appeal but thereafter proceeded with arbitration proceedings, which were ultimately successful. Sheffield United claimed £30,396,897.32 from West Ham, with £21,788,795 of that figure considered to be compensation for the loss of Premier League status: so the loss of the opportunity to remain in the Premier League, with the panel stating that they believed West Ham would have secured 3 fewer points had they not had the benefit of Tevez. The rest of the sum was based on reduced transfer fees, season ticket sales, merchandising and lost business opportunities. Clearly, the opportunity value of the Premier League in 2020 is far more significant some 12 years on.

In the case of, say, clubs in the Championship (or League One or League Two) being denied the opportunity of promotion, those clubs would firstly need to establish that there has been wrongdoing by the relevant league. Clubs at the top of the Championship might point, for example, at Regulation 10.1.1(b) of the EFL Rules which states that: “At the end of each Season, the two Clubs finishing in the highest positions in The Championship of the League Competition shall be promoted to The Premier League …”.

The argument might be that the EFL Rules are akin to a shareholders’ agreement and it would unfairly prejudicial conduct to disregard them. There is no ambiguity in the provision. Additionally there is no reason why a Court would not be prepared to assess damages based on the loss of this opportunity. That will boil down to the Court’s assessment of the likely outcome of those hypothetical scenarios; and the Tevez case demonstrates that it is possible to make such an assessment.

Going forward
These are uncertain times for professional sports leagues, and understandably all leagues (especially those which are underpinned by lucrative broadcasting contracts) will wish to explore every feasible way to restart, and complete, the current season.

Greater certainty inevitably will follow in the coming weeks as the leagues are dealing with finite blocks of time. This is not like a music concert which can simply be rearranged at an alternative date in 12 months. Whatever the outcome, however, it is inevitable that there shall be clubs who are prejudiced as a consequence. It would then remain to be seen whether any such club, or group of clubs, would be prepared to take legal action: as set out above, given the huge financial consequences for certain clubs such a prospect cannot be ruled out.
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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 7:54 pm

Simon Chadwick in Policy Forum on how Football is still being used as a political tool during the pandemic - this time via the geo-politics of Generosity - It is still a game it just doesn't involve 22 people kicking a ball around on grass anymore

It includes an interesting theory about Man City's approach so far.

The game must go on
Global football and the geopolitics of generosity
Simon Chadwick - 7 April 2020

With many nations looking east for assistance in their pandemic responses, ties currently forming may have a lasting impact on the footballing world, Simon Chadwick writes.

It has been some weeks now since most of us watched live football, although there’s still been a match going on albeit staged without the likes of Messi and Ronaldo being involved.

The game of giving has reignited the football season as debate has raged about how clubs treat their staff and whether players are responding to the current crisis in the right way.

Some, including the English Premier League’s Tottenham Hotspur, have furloughed non-playing staff whilst continuing to pay players their full salaries.

This has incited criticism, and many have castigated stars for their apparent lack of social conscience, especially fans who have criticised wealthy owners for taking money from government to pay the wages of some staff.

However, as many continue to bemoan the supposedly impoverished morality of modern football, there is a counter-argument to it. Indeed, few seem to be highlighting an outbreak of generosity in the sport, the likes of which has possibly never been seen before.

Some players are displaying an awareness of their duties and obligations in these turbulent times, which includes players such as Liverpool’s Jordan Henderson who is leading an initiative that could see his fellow professionals in England taking a pay cut.

Yet such initiatives seem almost trivial among numerous, much bigger shows of generosity that are becoming increasingly apparent. But these are not about football’s biggest names taking a minor hit to their lavish lifestyles, they instead signify what 21st century football had become and is likely to remain.

As its Premier League rivals have furloughed staff, Manchester City has taken the decision not to. It would be nice to think that the club’s owners – the Abu Dhabi owned City Football Group – are displaying a level of social responsibility that many of its closest rivals have thus far been unable to match.

Or, perhaps, City is simply a better managed club than others though, many would argue, one that was more lavishly resourced in the first place. However, this generosity needs to be set in the context of an impending case that is due to be heard in the Court for Arbitration in Sport, where City are appealing a UEFA penalty for breaching its Financial Fair Play regulations.

An argument can be made that not furloughing staff is actually reputation management wrapped in generosity, rather than altruism. In this context, one therefore also wonders what the end goals of Abu Dhabi’s other public displays of social solidarity might be.

For instance, the small Gulf region emirate just waived rental fees at its ExCel Centre in London, which has been turned into a 4000-bed coronavirus hospital. Such generosity is much needed, though it is undoubtedly embedded in a wider network of political and geopolitical interests.

Some might think such a view is churlish and unnecessarily cynical during these deeply troubling times. However, the game plan for geopolitical generosity in football has been evident for months. In fact, the seeds of it have been germinating for several years.

In hard hit Italy, Inter Milan was amongst a number of high-profile organisations that rushed to assist the government’s fight against COVID-19, with the club donating 300,000 medical masks to the Italian Civil Protection Agency. It also donated other healthcare products including protective clothing and disinfectants.

Tellingly, the Milanese club is owned by a Chinese company, Suning, which undertook to engage its supply chain network to support Inter’s efforts.
These should in turn be set against the backdrop of the turbulence currently afflicting Italy’s relationship with the European Union.

As Brussels has gone cold on Italy, so government in Rome has turned eastwards to Beijing to look for support. Football has thus proved to be a helpful enabler of this relationship, especially in this case given an existing and strong predisposition of many Chinese people towards Italian football.

China’s companies and its various interests in football across Europe are never more than a step or two away from government in Beijing. The fight against COVID-19 is therefore presenting some interesting opportunities for diplomacy and generosity that are likely to have an enduring impact.

But it is not just in Italy where such a convergence and alignment of multiple interests is manifesting itself. In the Czech Republic, China has been playing football diplomacy for some years. The country’s leading club, Slavia Prague, is even owned by an investor whose links to the Chinese government remain open to question.

Relations between Prague and Beijing had been souring of late, though the current viral crisis may herald a rapprochement between the two. China has been supplying the Czechs with large amounts of medical supplies, and Slavia Prague may therefore become instrumental to inter-country relations again in the future.

A similar scenario is evident in Croatia; a country also increasingly beholden to China and its current help, but a country that has also willingly played along with Beijing’s policy of football diplomacy.

With ties being solidified by COVID-19’s severity, we should therefore expect projects such as HNK Rijeka’s new stadium to proceed with alacrity once current challenges are overcome. Last year, China’s Top International Engineering Cooperation signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the football club to construct the new venue.

As China plays the game of geopolitical generosity across the Adriatic, in the Balkans Russia is joining in. For years, Moscow has been using football as a means through which to cultivate political favour in Serbia. This has been premised upon mutual gas interests that have seen Belgrade’s – and Serbia’s – leading club Crvena Zvevda (Red Star Belgrade) first signing a sponsorship deal with Russia’s Gazprom, then later being reportedly subject to a takeover bid by the gas behemoth.

Recently, relations between Moscow and Belgrade soured as Serbia looked towards the European Union, which meant that Gazprom never followed through with its interest in acquiring the one-time European Cup winners.

However, with the European Union stuttering and stumbling in its response to COVID-19, so Moscow has ridden to Serbia’s rescue. More than a dozen planes have flown from Russian with medical supplies. Post-virus, one suspects that football diplomacy between the two countries may therefore ascend the political agenda once more.

As most of us continue to grapple with the absence of live football from our lives, it is nevertheless important to remember that the game still goes on. There’s plenty of penalty box action and high scoring games taking place. But this is embodied in the current geopolitics of generosity, rather than at the Bernabeu or Old Trafford.

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It does forget that Abu Dhabi were initially charging the government for the use of the Excel centre before a public outcry

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 7:58 pm

Which helps to put this into context from a sports post pandemic perspective

Italian leaders have developed a dangerous preoccupation with being seen to oppose the rest of Europe – particularly Germany – and wild ideas about a future close relationship with China.

https://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_ ... _and_china

the commitment between Italy and China has been steadily growing before the pandemic

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47679760

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 8:10 pm

An wide-ranging and insightful interview with Stefan Kürten, the outgoing executive director of the European Broadcasting Union, on the value of future of sports rights together with how they are dealing with the stance on payments for the paused/cancelled sports events.

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/euro ... ng-kurten/

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 8:30 pm

Eurosport owner Discovery joins the list of large American Media corporations that have announce revenue falls in Q1

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/disc ... rotection/

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Thu May 07, 2020 11:33 pm

@Marcotti believes the solution to the EFL/Premier League's complex range of issues this summer (football or lawsuits) surrounding the restart is "fungible"

https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-pre ... r-lawsuits

There is of course one significant element his suggestion misses out - the small matter of the reset and end of Parachute Payments that the EFL is demanding.

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