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Ian Woan

Post by RingoMcCartney » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:39 pm

Mr Dyche has, quite rightly, earned well deserved, praise for his achievements during his tenure at our club.

How much goes down to his right hand man?

Genuinely interested in others opinions.....

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Pearcey » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:41 pm

Listened to an interview with him on Player and he comes across really well. Dyche is always quick to praise his staff.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by tim_noone » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:42 pm

I think it's an all round team effort right down to the tea lady to be honest.

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:00 pm

I'm noticing similarities to another management team that had a certain amount of success.

Like Sean Dyche and Ian Woan, they did it with, what was at the time, an unfashionable team.

And like the Sean Dyche/Ian Woan partnership. They too, became synonymous with the club and it's fabulous successes!

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by scouseclaret » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:34 pm

... then they went down the road to their bitter rivals and had even greater success!!! ;)

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:49 pm

scouseclaret wrote:... then they went down the road to their bitter rivals and had even greater success!!! ;)

Indeed they did!

And they, like Sean Dyche and Ian Woan, had an eye for taking over looked players, and getting them to buy into their ideology.

Which was a team ethic - " minimum requirement, is maximum effort."

And eventually these previously overlooked players, were running through brick walls for the 2 of them!

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Rowls » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:50 pm

Bardsley said on the radio the other night that our training regime has him feeling fitter than ever.

A lot of credit must go to all our training and coaching staff.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Pstotto » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:02 am

A great footballer, for sure. I was glad when I heard he was one of our staff.

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Post by DCWat » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:08 am

Rowls wrote:Bardsley said on the radio the other night that our training regime has him feeling fitter than ever.

A lot of credit must go to all our training and coaching staff.
Fitter than he has been for a few years, I think he said, Rowls.
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Re: Ian Woan

Post by JohnMac » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:34 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:I'm noticing similarities to another management team that had a certain amount of success.

Like Sean Dyche and Ian Woan, they did it with, what was at the time, an unfashionable team.

And like the Sean Dyche/Ian Woan partnership. They too, became synonymous with the club and it's fabulous successes!
Who, Eddie and Jason? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ian Woan

Post by maccclaret » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:47 am

Graham Taylor and "yes boss" Neal

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Post by Amex » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:53 am

So it’s ok for him to turn round and call BURNLEY fans £&@)!?/ /£&@“?! Great assistant yes, fantastic part of a great machine yes.
Needs to be wary of How and where he vents his frustrations.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by RocketLawnChair » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:54 am

Mike Bassett and Dave Dodds...
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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:08 am

I think the whole ethos of Burnley FC at the moment is pulling in the right direction.

It can't last for ever, but its great while it does!

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:13 am

Brian Clough and Peter Taylor

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Foshiznik » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:25 am

Paul Ince and Ray Mathias?

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:26 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Brian Clough and Peter Taylor
You're doing it all wrong.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:31 am

Tony Loughlan is just as important as Ian Woan
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Re: Ian Woan

Post by MACCA » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:32 am

Is a grumby knob?

Needs to learn some people skills and general manners/courtesy if you ask me.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:34 am

Chris Waddle and Glen Roeder - truly one of the great partnerships - has a number wo ever defended the boss so forcefully or for so long at the expense of everyone else in the universe

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:37 am

MACCA wrote:Is a grumby knob?

Needs to learn some people skills and general manners/courtesy if you ask me.
Why? So he doesn't hurt your feelings?

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by MACCA » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:44 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Why? So he doesn't hurt your feelings?
Now that would be silly.
Just for the general public would be a start, many people have all sorts of anger or personality issues, but I've always found common curtesy and manners a nice ice breaker, and go quite far regarding first impressions.

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:48 pm

He is a loyal and trusted member of our manager's successful coaching staff. He is obviously having a big input into the team spirit and do you know what, I applaud him for showing passion and resentment when he hears unwarranted abuse from the experts in the stands behind him. It tells me he cares.
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Post by ten bellies » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:09 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:He is a loyal and trusted member of our manager's successful coaching staff. He is obviously having a big input into the team spirit and do you know what, I applaud him for showing passion and resentment when he hears unwarranted abuse from the experts in the stands behind him. It tells me he cares.
Absolutely. We have some real brain deads that follow our club. They can't keep their big mouths shut, even when we have the most successful team in my lifetime. Any mistake made on the pitch and these idiots are booing and shouting abuse. The booing I heard at the end of the Huddersfield match was disgraceful. I wish they would bugger off to Deadwood. We don't want them at our club.
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Post by ten bellies » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:09 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:He is a loyal and trusted member of our manager's successful coaching staff. He is obviously having a big input into the team spirit and do you know what, I applaud him for showing passion and resentment when he hears unwarranted abuse from the experts in the stands behind him. It tells me he cares.
Absolutely. We have some real brain deads that follow our club. They can't keep their big mouths shut, even when we have the most successful team in my lifetime. Any mistake made on the pitch and these idiots are booing and shouting abuse. The booing I heard at the end of the Huddersfield match was disgraceful. I wish they would b*gger off to Deadwood. We don't want them at our club.

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Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:13 pm

MACCA wrote:Now that would be silly.
Just for the general public would be a start, many people have all sorts of anger or personality issues, but I've always found common curtesy and manners a nice ice breaker, and go quite far regarding first impressions.
It sounds a lot like he's hurt your feelings already.
There, there! Pay no attention to the nasty man, Macca.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:14 pm

Was there really booing at the end of Hudds match?

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:18 pm

As for "Moany Woany" him and SD seem a cracking partnership .i could be wrong but I'm sure there was a Woan (young lad) who Clough played in a cup final but perhaps a different guy or maybe SD knows him from those days? Off top of my head I think SD will have only encountered the great Brian Clough in his later "pitiful drunk " yrs but I v much stand corrected .Not a sadder site in the game seeing Clough in his last couple of yrs

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:22 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Brian Clough and Peter Taylor
Exactly!!!

Look what they did at forest. Look at what Sean Dyche and Ian Woan are doing here!

Look at the type of players they bought!!

I know it's a different era. But there are similarities.

CloughTaylors Forest and Dyche/Woans Burnley are gritty. No superstars. Turning good players into fabulous players. Prepared to run through brick walls for the gaffer. For 95 minutes. For each other. And in both cases, their respective teams, The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

He's being called the ginger morinho. But to me the Dyche and Woan duo, are far more closer to Brian Clough and Peter Taylor.
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Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:29 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:i could be wrong but I'm sure there was a Woan (young lad) who Clough played in a cup final but perhaps a different guy or maybe SD knows him from those days?
it was him.

loughran was also a youth player at forest with dyche and they both worked with dyche at watford.

billy mercer played with dyche at chesterfield but was here before dyche came in.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:30 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:As for "Moany Woany" him and SD seem a cracking partnership .i could be wrong but I'm sure there was a Woan (young lad) who Clough played in a cup final but perhaps a different guy or maybe SD knows him from those days? Off top of my head I think SD will have only encountered the great Brian Clough in his later "pitiful drunk " yrs but I v much stand corrected .Not a sadder site in the game seeing Clough in his last couple of yrs
That's the same Ian Woan.

Dyche was at Forest as a youth player in the mid/late 80s, when they were still pretty successful. Don't think Clough's alcoholism really took hold until the early 90s.
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Re: Ian Woan

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:30 pm

I happened to be sat next to former Forest keeper Mark Crossley on the top table at sportsmans dinner and he spoke very highly of SD and IW.

What I did find interesting though was that he thought Tony Loughlan was the real brains behind it all. He described him as a 'genius'. Told me how he was a decent player in his youth but suffered an injury early and had basically studied football and sports science etc and was now one of the very best at what he does.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by MACCA » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:32 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:It sounds a lot like he's hurt your feelings already.
There, there! Pay no attention to the nasty man, Macca.
Macca, mother said if you've nothing nice to say, keep quiet, you've already had 3 fishermen on here in tears and one leave.

Noted.

Yes LB. You are correct. Thank you for your kind words of comfort.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:39 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:I happened to be sat next to former Forest keeper Mark Crossley on the top table at sportsmans dinner and he spoke very highly of SD and IW.

What I did find interesting though was that he thought Tony Loughlan was the real brains behind it all. He described him as a 'genius'. Told me how he was a decent player in his youth but suffered an injury early and had basically studied football and sports science etc and was now one of the very best at what he does.

I'm learning something there. As you say, very interesting.

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Re: Ian Woan

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:57 pm

Surprised to hear any negative comments about Woany. He’s a completely different character to Dyche and I’ve probably spoken with him more often than Dyche. He will tell you he’s not a Scouser (he’s from the other side of the river) but he has a typical Scouse humour.

Tony Loughlan is a lot quieter in every way than the other two but equally as important. He’s a genuine good bloke who has survived being Roy Keane’s number two at Sunderland and Ipswich.

All three, four if you count Keane, were at Forest but Loughlan hardly played due to injuries.
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