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George Boyd

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:21 am

Doesn't seem to be playing much for Sheffield. Is he injured or is he just not in the team? And how much do you think we miss him?
I think Brady and JBG are both much better with the ball but obviously not as hard working. They are doing some good defensive work though. While he was here I always thought he was better technically than arfield but arfield really seems to have Improved this year. How much do you think we will miss him?

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Re: George Boyd

Post by TVC15 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:25 am

6th in the table suggests not that much !

Not sure if he is injured but he was dropped to the bench and Sheffield Wed fans were not too impressed with his first few displays.

They had a poor start to the season though and I am sure when he breaks back into the team they will see his value to the team.
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Re: George Boyd

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:42 am

Sure he is injured

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Re: George Boyd

Post by LeadBelly » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:44 am

Made his fair contribution to our recent success and then, when the time was right for both parties, moved on.
It's been mentioned on here before -he's currently injured. He broke a small bone in the shoulder area mid September and had to have an operation, looks like it will be a few more weeks before he's back for them.
We're not missing him because we've moved on (as we do) but should be happy with the job he did here.
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Re: George Boyd

Post by IanMcL » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:44 am

Had an operation on his shoulder.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:51 am

Not many players enjoy success after leaving Burnley.
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Re: George Boyd

Post by bedswerver » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:52 am

Can't wait to see him back in the field :)

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Re: George Boyd

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:53 am

TVC15 wrote:Not sure if he is injured but he was dropped to the bench and Sheffield Wed fans were not too impressed with his first few displays.
He was a scapegoat for a long time, remember. Fans questioned his involvement in matches.

Then, one day an interesting stat surfaced about him covering the most ground in the Premier League or something. Suddenly he was the bees-knees.
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Re: George Boyd

Post by MDWat » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:07 pm

We don’t miss him in the slightest.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by RVclaret » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:16 pm

MDWat wrote:We don’t miss him in the slightest.
The number 3 in your player ratings is missing him. :D
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Re: George Boyd

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:17 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:He was a scapegoat for a long time, remember. Fans questioned his involvement in matches.

Then, one day an interesting stat surfaced about him covering the most ground in the Premier League or something. Suddenly he was the bees-knees.
He was crap really. His best game was City at home where he scored a good goal and run around chasing David Silva and the rest of the City midfield.
I like a player with effort but he run around a lot as he was always 10 yards away from the ball, if he stood still it would come to him more.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by TVC15 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:26 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:He was a scapegoat for a long time, remember. Fans questioned his involvement in matches.

Then, one day an interesting stat surfaced about him covering the most ground in the Premier League or something. Suddenly he was the bees-knees.
I`m sure Dyche and the rest of the team knew his value.

Like most / all players he had periods of inconsistency. I remember the season we won the championship where he was really struggling and a lot of fans - including me were saying his time was up and we should not offer him a new contract. Pretty sure Dyche dropped him for a few games. Then from about Feb / March that season he got back in the team and was arguably our best player for the rest of the season.

Boyd has a good season last year in the Premier League and I would have been happy for him to stay as I think it is important that you have players who know our system inside out and fit in with the rest of the squad like he did.

For £3m I think Boyd was a great signing for us - he owes us nothing. He was good for us and I`m sure that we were good for him - giving him the most successful part of his career.

As an aside I watched quite a lot of the Leeds v Sheff Wed game last weekend and both Jones and Wallace had very good games - especially Wallace. Sheff Wed are an ambitious club who have thrown quite a lot of money about in last 3 years trying to get promotion and have been on the verge of going up.

Wallace, Jones and Boyd are all at the back end of their careers now but their experience and quality cannot be questioned when a top 6 championship team have them all in their team.

From our point of view we have done what we needed to try and cement our place in the Premier League - which is to buy the next level up in terms of quality and also bring in some younger (not young !) players.

As a fan for 40 years and spending so many transfer windows wondering when we would get Lenny Johnrose back on loan or feeling excited that we had spend £250k on a fat little bloke called Liam Robinson that I had never even seen play to see how far we have come that as fans we are not unhappy with letting players like Boyd or even Andre Gray leave the club feels like a dream that when someone wakes me up i`ll be in the car on my way to Spotland !!
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Re: George Boyd

Post by SammyBoy » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:03 pm

I'm glad we've upgraded on Boyd. I appreciated how hard he worked but I struggled to take to him simply because when he had the ball at his feet in the Premier League (and sometimes Championship) he struggled to do anything constructive at the pace required. His first touch was so poor it actually came off occasionally because it totally threw the defender who was challenging him, what I like to call the 'inverted first touch'. He was also horribly slow, all in all I'm grateful for his efforts but happy we've got better now.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:24 pm

TVC15 wrote:I`m sure Dyche and the rest of the team knew his value.

Like most / all players he had periods of inconsistency. I remember the season we won the championship where he was really struggling and a lot of fans - including me were saying his time was up and we should not offer him a new contract. Pretty sure Dyche dropped him for a few games. Then from about Feb / March that season he got back in the team and was arguably our best player for the rest of the season.

Boyd has a good season last year in the Premier League and I would have been happy for him to stay as I think it is important that you have players who know our system inside out and fit in with the rest of the squad like he did.

For £3m I think Boyd was a great signing for us - he owes us nothing. He was good for us and I`m sure that we were good for him - giving him the most successful part of his career.

As an aside I watched quite a lot of the Leeds v Sheff Wed game last weekend and both Jones and Wallace had very good games - especially Wallace. Sheff Wed are an ambitious club who have thrown quite a lot of money about in last 3 years trying to get promotion and have been on the verge of going up.

Wallace, Jones and Boyd are all at the back end of their careers now but their experience and quality cannot be questioned when a top 6 championship team have them all in their team.

From our point of view we have done what we needed to try and cement our place in the Premier League - which is to buy the next level up in terms of quality and also bring in some younger (not young !) players.

As a fan for 40 years and spending so many transfer windows wondering when we would get Lenny Johnrose back on loan or feeling excited that we had spend £250k on a fat little bloke called Liam Robinson that I had never even seen play to see how far we have come that as fans we are not unhappy with letting players like Boyd or even Andre Gray leave the club feels like a dream that when someone wakes me up i`ll be in the car on my way to Spotland !!
How good was it when we signed `Rooster` Russell!?

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Re: George Boyd

Post by Spike » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:28 pm

Boyd and Jones were excellent players for us -to say otherwise would be churlish

We are in a position now to have better players but they played a part in getting us where we are now
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Re: George Boyd

Post by TVC15 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:35 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:How good was it when we signed `Rooster` Russell!?
Very good indeed.....was he not on loan first ?

No doubt 6 games after we signed him he turned into a bag of shoite - that`s how it normally went.

Ted McMinn was another signing that got me excited and David Eyres. I used to love signing good wingers - especially ones that you had seen torture our full backs playing for oppositions. The lad Moody (or Mooney ?) who we signed was like this - he murdered our full backs in the semi final of Sherpa van playing for Preston. Unfortunately after he signed for us he was dogged by injury.

I would not swap where we are now for anything but in a perverse type of way I do miss a little having hardly any money and transfer windows having to pick up bargains or unknown quantities....or even just getting back Lenny Johnrose when all else fails !!

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Re: George Boyd

Post by ashtonlongsider » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:21 pm

Most disappointing aspect of the summer for me losing Boydy. Especially given it was to a Championship side. Hope Georgie doesn't live to regret his sideways move.
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Re: George Boyd

Post by MDWat » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:46 pm

RVclaret wrote:The number 3 in your player ratings is missing him. :D
Only used that once this season thankfully!

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Re: George Boyd

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:43 pm

when everyone hops aboard a bandwagon it seems obvious that right decisions were taken,Boyd took a lot of flak needlessly.
He served our cause extremely well, contributed every game to the best of his abilities.
His work rate is rightfully acknowledged. There was a system and he played his part admirably.
reminds me of the latest toss spoken about liverpools defence, once some half wit pundit gets airtime suggesting they cannot defend to save themselves, every man and his dog says the same thing. It's nonsense of course, but same applied with boyd when he was here. I watched him play sometimes and he was brilliant, post match the inevitable slagging off occured just because that had been the prevailing opinion based on our last defeat. He was a scapegoat and it was shameful that he was.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by Joe14 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:01 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:He was crap really. His best game was City at home where he scored a good goal and run around chasing David Silva and the rest of the City midfield.
I like a player with effort but he run around a lot as he was always 10 yards away from the ball, if he stood still it would come to him more.
Clueless. You clearly don't watch Burnley much. Kind of comments I'd expect from Saxoman.

Top player who worked very hard for this club and he had a small part in getting us to where we are today.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:55 pm

Joe14 wrote:Clueless. You clearly don't watch Burnley much. Kind of comments I'd expect from Saxoman.

Top player who worked very hard for this club and he had a small part in getting us to where we are today.
You're right in he played a small part in our small success but top player? Just could he could run and score the odd goal? You must be easily pleased if you think he's a top player.

Top players on a free transfer don't generally go down a division, and they certainly don't get left out of that side they join in the lower league.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by TVC15 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:18 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:You're right in he played a small part in our small success but top player? Just could he could run and score the odd goal? You must be easily pleased if you think he's a top player.

Top players on a free transfer don't generally go down a division, and they certainly don't get left out of that side they join in the lower league.
If you really think City was his only good game then you sound like one of those fans with an irrational dislike to certain players like Boyd and Jones.

Boyd has plenty of good games for Burnley. To say he was just a runner is rubbish. He was not a "top" player as in De Bruyne but he was a "top" player as in we paid only £3m for him and he was an integral part of a very successful team.

As for going to a championship side I'm not sure of your point (other than you don't like him and are looking for any excuse !) we finished just above relegation place and Boyd is his 30s. Why would any team above us buy him ? He's gone to a team who finished in the play offs last 2 years and got a lucrative 2 year contract.

Its hardly a massive step down.....but hey ho as long as it adds to your own reasons to think he's crap !
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Re: George Boyd

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:10 pm

Only 3m? It was our record transfer at the time. A very big fee for us.

I don't have any irrational dislikes of any of our players, I just like to improve on them. We have improved on both of them so I'm happy.

You obviously like runners which is fine, I prefer footballers. Jack Cork covers more ground than Boyd according to the stats and contributes with the football, it can be done.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by KRBFC » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:38 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:He was crap really. His best game was City at home where he scored a good goal and run around chasing David Silva and the rest of the City midfield.
I like a player with effort but he run around a lot as he was always 10 yards away from the ball, if he stood still it would come to him more.
I thought his best game was Preston away where Joey scored the deflected freekick.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by boiledclaret » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:26 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Only 3m? It was our record transfer at the time. A very big fee for us.
Wow, that shocked me but you're bang on. Shows how far we've come, or how inflated the markets got. :shock:

We certainly got more than 3M out of him but he left at the right time, imo. Good luck to him at Wednesday.

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Re: George Boyd

Post by TVC15 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:46 pm

We bought Steve Fletcher for £3m a few years before that.

£3m was not a lot of money at the time - just we were being very prudent. Have a look at the transfers other teams "similar" were making at that time - eg the likes of Hull - and you will see that £3m was not a big transfer.

To say Boyd is just a runner is embarrassing - no footballer would get away with being just a runner.

Dyche picked him time and time again because he knew his value to the team - he offered him a new contract in the summer.

Jack Cork is a better player - plays in a completely different position and has only played half a dozen games. He's cost more than 3 times as much and probably on double the salary of Boyd at least. Not even sure why you are making a comparison.

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