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SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:14 am
by ablueclaret
If SD wants to become a top manager this is the time to move on, the opportunity might never come again, or will his innate conservatism mean he sticks to what he knows.
If he's never prepared to take a gamble and find out if he can manage a top side then he'll for ever remain a good manager not a great one.
As with Keane his time has come to test himself.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:16 am
by claretblue
not if he reads this messageboard! :?

:roll:

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:19 am
by TheFamilyCat
It's a real quandary.

Imagine never moving on, spending day after day doing the same thing, never progressing, never challenging yourself. Just regurgitating the day before and the day before that and the day before that. Never moving on.

Imagine that abc, can you just imagine that?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:19 am
by Lancasterclaret
If you read ablueclarets posts with the voice of Gollum, they are so much better.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:23 am
by RalphCoatesComb
Are you really Saxotroll in disguise?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:26 am
by MACCA
Hopefully

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:27 am
by northeastclaret
Dyche knows that to leave Burnley now will relegate us and unravel a lot he has achieved, not least because his whole back room team would go with him. He would also be leaving a squad he has personally invested so much in and would be heartbroken.

I hope and believe he will only leave between seasons which would give the club and himself more time to be successful after his departure.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:27 am
by tim_noone
ablueclaret wrote:If SD wants to become a top manager this is the time to move on, the opportunity might never come again, or will his innate conservatism mean he sticks to what he knows.
If he's never prepared to take a gamble and find out if he can manage a top side then he'll for ever remain a good manager not a great one.
As with Keane his time has come to test himself.
He is a top manager managing a top side ?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:29 am
by JohnMac
Just what is the benchmark for being a 'Top Manager'?

Winning the Premier League?
Winning the FA or League Cup?
Winning the Champions League?
Winning a European League of good standing (Italy, Germany or Spain)?
Winning the World Cup or Euro Championship?

He was sacked by Watford for delivering a finishing position above what they had achieved in recent times.

What will Everton or Leicester demand?

He is aware of the pitfalls of trying to achieve unreasonable targets for impatient owners, would he risk it again and potentially end up labelled as another (albeit richer) failure?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:31 am
by clansman
An utterly ridiculous post by an attention seeking individual who knows absolutely nothing about Sean dyche ,his aspirations, his long term goals, his commitments, his family circumstances,.what right have you to advise someone like Sean ? What do you actually know about football or ambition.? Sean is already very successful wealthy and admired. He has nothing to prove and certainly not to the likes of you!!

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:31 am
by Juan Tanamera
He's only 45 years old with plenty of time on his side.
Unless you've come through the ranks at Barcelona like Guidiola then not many young managers get the top jobs.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:38 am
by ClaretEngineer
We all have aspirations and many of us have the difficult task of weighing up the pro's and con's of new opportunities as and when they present themselves.

There is always some trepidation about changing job, as no two jobs are ever the same. Aspects that Sean enjoy's at Burnley may not be on offer elsewhere.

I'm sure we've all had the chance to move onto a better paid jobs in the past, but if all the other pieces don't quite fit then the money alone rarely compensates for that.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:52 am
by RocketLawnChair
Am I missing something, He needs to be offered a job first. He cant just turn up at Everton first thing tomorrow morning put a picture of the wife and kids on the desk in the managers office and then crack on.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:58 am
by TheFamilyCat
RocketLawnChair wrote:Am I missing something, He needs to be offered a job first. He cant just turn up at Everton first thing tomorrow morning put a picture of the wife and kids on the desk in the managers office and then crack on.
You say that, but if he did would you dare to tell him otherwise?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:03 am
by ClaretEngineer
RocketLawnChair wrote:Am I missing something, He needs to be offered a job first. He cant just turn up at Everton first thing tomorrow morning put a picture of the wife and kids on the desk in the managers office and then crack on.
Shows a proactive approach!

I'd be the last person to argue if Sean came to my work and announced he was running the show.

in fact he's probably return the company to profitability!

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:04 am
by RocketLawnChair
TheFamilyCat wrote:You say that, but if he did would you dare to tell him otherwise?
No, I'd get ABC to tell him !

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:25 am
by LoveCurryPies
When Sean eventually leaves, Ablue will be posting threads like 'Sean was our best manager ever', 'Why didn't Sean stay?', 'Can we attract Sean back?'....

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:31 am
by Darthlaw
RocketLawnChair wrote:No, I'd get ABC to tell him !
Question is would ABC be prepared to hang up his KKK whites, deflate his wife, leave the allotment and venture up the M6 to do it?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:40 am
by Sidney1st
RocketLawnChair wrote:Am I missing something, He needs to be offered a job first. He cant just turn up at Everton first thing tomorrow morning put a picture of the wife and kids on the desk in the managers office and then crack on.
Odemwingie tried it a few years back one transfer window, so why can't Dyche?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:08 pm
by RingoMcCartney
if a foreign manager comes to manage in the prem, they often come with a 2 or 3 year timescale in mind. They often plan to do a good , usually expensive job, to improve their CV and off they pop to the continent. English managers tend to take a long term view and they often want to build a club from the bottom to top and create legacy, often having being aware of the particular traditions and history of the club. Even having previous links with the club. Koemann will probably have a number of offers from various clubs in various countries. Despite his tenure at Goodison being unsuccessful.

Sean Dyche has to consider that if it doesnt go well at Everton. He wont be given much loyalty by an Everton board, compared to ours. But more importantly he wont have the option of going abroad........

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:11 pm
by KRBFC
Dyche is trying to pimp himself out but nobody will take him, being linked in the media to every job yet is offered no job.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:20 pm
by CanuckClaret
KRBFC wrote:Dyche is trying to pimp himself out but nobody will take him, being linked in the media to every job yet is offered no job.
Are you Sherwood in disguise? Pr...

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:24 pm
by kentonclaret
The only people trying to pimp themselves out are the negative posters and trolls on this message board posting nonsense just trying to get some sort of reaction.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:26 pm
by RingoMcCartney
KRBFC wrote:Dyche is trying to pimp himself out but nobody will take him, being linked in the media to every job yet is offered no job.
Not "EVERY job."

He wasnt linked with your club's, Blackburn, many managerial vacancies recently. Not once! He has standards. ;)

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:28 pm
by gandhisflipflop
KRBFC wrote:Dyche is trying to pimp himself out but nobody will take him, being linked in the media to every job yet is offered no job.

Do you ever have a day off?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:31 pm
by piston broke
KRBFC wrote:Dyche is trying to pimp himself out but nobody will take him, being linked in the media to every job yet is offered no job.
The man has been slagged off on here for not making his position clear now you troll up and say he is pimping himself out.
**** OFF.
He's getting on with his job and preparing the team for Monday night.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:42 pm
by Leisure
I just love to laugh at the posts of ABC and KBRFC!

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:46 pm
by Transpennine
[quote="RingoMcCartney"]if a foreign manager comes to manage in the prem, they often come with a 2 or 3 year timescale in mind. They often plan to do a good , usually expensive job, to improve their CV and off they pop to the continent. English managers tend to take a long term view and they often want to build a club from the bottom to top and create legacy, often having being aware of the particular traditions and history of the club. Even having previous links with the club.

I'm not sure Arry Redknapp fits in with the above profile. But I get your point.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:51 pm
by RingoMcCartney
Transpennine wrote:
Aye! Fair enough! ;)

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:55 pm
by Tall Paul
Transpennine wrote:I'm not sure Arry Redknapp fits in with the above profile. But I get your point.
Or Arsene Wenger.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:17 pm
by Sleeping Cat
SD isn't afraid he is pragmatic. Any offer on the table has to be right before he'll consider it. That means remuneration, objectives & goals, responsibilities, control & trust. If one of these factors doesn't meet the criteria Sean has for him to consider a new job, then why leave the job he currently has & is happy in?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:21 pm
by martin_p
Don’t feed the troll.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:35 pm
by Braindead
KRBFC wrote:Dyche is trying to pimp himself out but nobody will take him, being linked in the media to every job yet is offered no job.
Explain exactly how Dyche is trying to pimp himself out - with quotes please.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:38 pm
by Dyched
"IMA MEGAZ PIMP MAN, FUCKIN HIRE ME BRO!" Sean Dyche October '17

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:45 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
He's been at them cabbages again.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:48 pm
by HatfieldClaret
:lol:

FamilyCat

Post of the season so far !! Made me laugh out loud at work.

Thank you. :D

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:57 pm
by beddie
Brilliant reply clansman. I agree wholeheartedly.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:05 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Braindead wrote:Explain exactly how Dyche is trying to pimp himself out - with quotes please.

Because he’s never got over the fact Dyche shunned him for an autograph once.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:19 pm
by cblantfanclub
"the time to move on, the opportunity might never come again,"
- do you ever read back your own posts a blue? Football management has a huge turnover of jobs especially in the prem. and this board is always flooded with posts about SD taking one.
If another opportunity doesn't occur in the next 8 months I'll come on here and hail you as an astute commentator rather than someone who has a compulsion to post drivel on here at every opportunity.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:32 pm
by ablueclaret
Always leave when you are at the top of your game.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:43 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Leisure wrote:I just love to laugh at the posts of ABC and KBRFC!
Same poster isn’t it?!

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:45 pm
by RocketLawnChair
ablueclaret wrote:Always leave when you are at the top of your game.
That's you here for ******* ever then...

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:53 pm
by KRBFC
piston broke wrote:The man has been slagged off on here for not making his position clear now you troll up and say he is pimping himself out.
**** OFF.
He's getting on with his job and preparing the team for Monday night.
I don't doubt he's preparing the team, every interview just seems like a ''come and get me'' which is completely fine but i'd rather he came out publicly and said he was interested when asked. I'd rather he was honest instead of the same lines everytime a job becomes available.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:06 pm
by Leisure
KRBFC wrote:I don't doubt he's preparing the team, every interview just seems like a ''come and get me'' which is completely fine but i'd rather he came out publicly and said he was interested when asked. I'd rather he was honest instead of the same lines everytime a job becomes available.
Please can you supply examples of 'come and get me'?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:13 pm
by taio
KRBFC wrote:I don't doubt he's preparing the team, every interview just seems like a ''come and get me'' which is completely fine but i'd rather he came out publicly and said he was interested when asked. I'd rather he was honest instead of the same lines everytime a job becomes available.
He has been unequivocally consistent from day one about his future at the club and not changed that at any point since then. So are you suggesting he has been giving "come and get me" messages throughout the last 5 years?

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:20 pm
by KRBFC
taio wrote:He has been unequivocally consistent from day one about his future at the club and not changed that at any point since then. So are you suggesting he has been giving "come and get me" messages throughout the last 5 years?
No but its certainly never black or white with him, fans wouldn't begrudge him a move to Everton so whats with all the fence sitting and trying to say the right thing.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:24 pm
by Leisure
KRBFC wrote:No but its certainly never black or white with him, fans wouldn't begrudge him a move to Everton so whats with all the fence sitting and trying to say the right thing.
There's no fence to sit on. If he hasn't been offered the Everton job (or any other for that matter) that's end of story.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:28 pm
by KRBFC
Leisure wrote:There's no fence to sit on. If he hasn't been offered the Everton job (or any other for that matter) that's end of story.
He's very good at avoiding questions, when asked if he's interested in a job, he wont answer it honestly.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:34 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
KRBFC wrote:He's very good at avoiding questions, when asked if he's interested in a job, he wont answer it honestly.
He does not have to answer at all because it is his business and his alone, perhaps they should stop asking the question.

Re: SD is he afraid to move on?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:37 pm
by Leisure
KRBFC wrote:He's very good at avoiding questions, when asked if he's interested in a job, he wont answer it honestly.
Because it only becomes a relevant question if he's offered the job!

PS - How do you know that he's not answering the hypothetical question honestly?