Cabinet Minister Patel resigns

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:33 pm

2 Cabinet ministers in a week! Long may it continue.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:42 pm

Good old Boris next?

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:47 pm

Not happy with this. This leaves justine greening as the only bangable minister on the government front benches. Where has all the eye candy gone/

geopancake · Post by **geopancake** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:53 pm

brexit wrote:Not happy with this. This leaves justine greening as the only bangable minister on the government front benches. Where has all the eye candy gone/

Really had a struggle to keep my tea down there.Talk about vomit inducing.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:00 pm

My mate Ronnie says she deserves to go for having a big, wide fat arse.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:03 pm

Not very PC there brexit....disappointing - even worse for you, I believe that the delectable Justine bats for the other team

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:07 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:Not very PC there brexit....disappointing - even worse for you, I believe that the delectable Justine bats for the other team

He probably thinks it's a choice.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:14 pm

I meant to click "home", not "like".

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:22 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I meant to click "home", not "like".

Could have been your subconscious taking over !

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:33 pm

brexit wrote:Not happy with this. This leaves justine greening as the only bangable minister on the government front benches. Where has all the eye candy gone/

I suspect, Brexit, that if you are searching the ranks of British politicians of any stripe, for what you may describe as " totty " , then, in the words of Jacob Rees-Mogg, you'll be existing on " pretty thin gruel " !!

geopancake · Post by **geopancake** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:00 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I meant to click "home", not "like".

Thanks for liking. IT.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:01 pm

Resigns.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:06 pm

Also talk of being on secret (behind Boris's back) overseas meetings, on behalf of Mrs Maynotlastverymuchlonger.

Conspiracy!

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:23 pm

I wonder what Rowls makes of all this.
I hope he’s ok.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:13 am

I'm wonderful thanks for asking. Just spent a couple of days with a mate drinking and eating in Aigues-Mortes which is a little paradise.

As for Pretty Patel I think she should have been promoted for working during her own holiday - not forced to resign.

We ought to be seeking more trade deals with the Middle East's only functioning democracy and helping fund their humanitarian efforts in the area. She is right to want to spend UK aid money in less corrupt countries than we currently spunk these millions on - Israel is an ideal candidate.

Patel has the right idea as far as i'm concerned and disappointed to see her go.

Hope she's back in the cabinet under the next PM.

Ightenclaret · Post by **Ightenclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:26 am

Good riddance to another slice of sleaze serving their own interests as far as I'm concerned.
It won't be long before the people that run this country actually run it and benefit from their labours.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:40 am

Ightenclaret wrote:Good riddance to another slice of sleaze serving their own interests as far as I'm concerned.
It won't be long before the people that run this country actually run it and benefit from their labours.

I don't think Ms. Patel is either an Israeli or is accused of any personal gain here. You'd do well to think of some less anodyne insults for the people who spend their time serving you.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:45 am

Rowls wrote:I'm wonderful thanks for asking. Just spent a couple of days with a mate drinking and eating in Aigues-Mortes which is a little paradise.

As for Pretty Patel I think she should have been promoted for working during her own holiday - not forced to resign.

We ought to be seeking more trade deals with the Middle East's only functioning democracy and helping fund their humanitarian efforts in the area. She is right to want to spend UK aid money in less corrupt countries than we currently spunk these millions on - Israel is an ideal candidate.

Patel has the right idea as far as i'm concerned and disappointed to see her go.

Hope she's back in the cabinet under the next PM.

I just can’t see Corbyn giving her a place in his cabinet.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:46 am

Have a look at the other Patel thread Rowls...surely there is some stuff on there that you should be commenting on...or does the behaviour which led to her SACKING not concern you at all...?..ie - acting totally unofficially, and initially lying about it and subsequently being economical with the truth.
Is this what our cabinet ministers should be doing?

When you say..'I don't think Ms. Patel is either an Israeli or is accused of any personal gain here..'

Wasn't that part of her 'holiday' devoted to 12-15 unofficial meetings, really about cosying up and winning favour with senior officials and business people in that country including the Prime Minister, and making offers and promises [that we know little about], in return for financial support from wealthy donors who could fund a potential future leadership campaign by Ms Patel..?

That's just corruption isn't it?

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:47 am

Priti vacant...Duty free.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:59 am

Rowls wrote:I'm wonderful thanks for asking. Just spent a couple of days with a mate drinking and eating in Aigues-Mortes which is a little paradise.

As for Pretty Patel I think she should have been promoted for working during her own holiday - not forced to resign.

We ought to be seeking more trade deals with the Middle East's only functioning democracy and helping fund their humanitarian efforts in the area. She is right to want to spend UK aid money in less corrupt countries than we currently spunk these millions on - Israel is an ideal candidate.

Patel has the right idea as far as i'm concerned and disappointed to see her go.

Hope she's back in the cabinet under the next PM.

That explains the rest of your post, then. Sober up.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:20 am

Rare backing of (some!) of Rowls post here.

She was talking to the IDF because they run hospitals and refugee camps in the Golan Heights, which is a military area and as we don't recognise Israeli possession of the area, it couldn't be covered under normal FO rules.

Thats the only bit of Rowls post I'll back up though. She can't do what she wants, without going through the proper UK channels, and if she's been thrown under a bus because the UK have decided to talk directly to the IDF*, then that will come out, and May is toast.

*The actual premise makes perfect sense for the refugees in the Golan Heights, but you probably can't do it because of the political sensitivities involved.

Either way, we have an even weaker PM hanging in there when we desperately need a strong one. I don't think Corbyn is anything other than a bad replacement, but at least he might have some fresh ideas to get us out of a mess all of our own creation.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:53 am

Lancasterclaret wrote: She can't do what she wants, without going through the proper UK channels, and if she's been thrown under a bus because the UK have decided to talk directly to the IDF*, then that will come out, and May is toast.
.

That's the really big point to come out of this. I don't for one minute believe that Johnson and May were totally unaware of this, (hence Boris's gushing tribute to her last night).
If - as I suspect - Patel has fallen on her sword in order to protect May, then Patel will use it in her favour at some point. She is an ambitious and ruthless woman.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:50 am

I think you 'May' have it, ND!

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:54 am

Who remembers when May tried to portray herself as Strong and Stable?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:59 am

Mr May, who probably got the night of his life when she felt like that.

*Apologies for the mental image

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:07 am

It's Patel's decision at the end of the day, and we should respect that.
She has her reasons for it, and I'm sure she didn't make that decision lightly.
She should be applauded for sticking by her beleifs, she's been brave IMO.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:13 am

it wasn't her decision though was it?

She was told to resign or she'd be sacked, and she broke every rule that the FO have about contacting foreign powers.

Apart from that, good post

Cryssys · Post by **Cryssys** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:24 am

Is anyone else finding it increasingly difficult to take anything that Rowls says seriously? The guy is so up his own and completely oblivious to reality.

Interestingly, Aigues-Mortes in Portuguese translates as acute death -sums up Priti Patel perfectly. I wish Mrs May and her government would suffer the same fate, unfortunately it looks like it will be slow and lingering death. Probably have to wait until the new year now. It's a shame as it would make a lovely Christmas present.

Has there ever been a British government that is so dysfunctional?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:30 am

I have a bit of sympathy for May because she has to deal with a hell of a lot, but her unwillingness to bring it all to a head and accept the consequences (effectively either being on the back benches, watching a party rip itself apart, or being in charge, having ripped the party apart) means the whole country looks rudderless.

And add that to the only alternative is Corbyn (who lots have got deep reservations about, inc me) and its not looking good for Team UK.

I'd say it was deeply depressing, but its actually worse than that.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:40 am

Cryssys wrote:
Has there ever been a British government that is so dysfunctional?

John Major's debacle would give her a run for her money unfortunately what would follow May doesn't look any better than what followed Major

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:55 am

Chobulous wrote:John Major's debacle would give her a run for her money unfortunately what would follow May doesn't look any better than what followed Major

I know where you are coming from, but I don't think there's really any comparison. As a nation we were just drifting on under Major with Europe ripping the Tories apart. Now we are simply rudderless and floundering in tempestuous waters, and the EU issue is ripping the whole country apart.
Strong and stable was what we needed if we were to seriously address the Brexit issue. Instead we got this shambles.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:02 pm

She resigned before she was sacked. She polled up at no 10, round the back, had to wait three hours and then receive the inevitable ultimatum.
You can imagine the conversation. A shambles. Trump's useless but at least is a maverick. These morons suffer from institutionalised failure and would stck together no matter what if they could. Cowardly and corrupt.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:38 pm

‘It’s come to our attention that you’re having meetings with Theresa May, Ms Patel.’

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:12 pm

"Oy vey, you're fired ! "

(The Apprentice, Israeli version.)

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:41 pm

I’ve got no sympathy for May and her cronies. A walking disaster.

The country voted for Brexit, no point going over the old arguments, we needed strong leadership from her and her cabinet to get things done. I think even Ringo, who probably has a Brexit Birthday cake, would admit they way they have handled it so far has been a shambles.
She’s got no authority within her cabinet, no authority within her party. It’s wont go unnoticed in the EU when it comes to getting the best deal possible.

At no point during her time as PM has she sought to put the best interests of the British people first.

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:46 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:Not very PC there brexit....disappointing - even worse for you, I believe that the delectable Justine bats for the other team

No problem there I pulled in hebden bridge on the late 90's. And seriously not PC have you seen most of the posts by ABC and rowls

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:49 pm

brexit wrote:And seriously not PC have you seen most of the posts by ABC and rowls

What have I posted that is not "PC"?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:51 pm

I don't know what all the fuss is about.

Patel was only having a meeting with her boss, Benjamin Netanyahu, to clarify what our foreign policy is.......

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:34 pm

Rowls wrote:
Hope she's back in the cabinet under the next PM.

Under bojo rude

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:15 pm

Rowls.....

"...helping fund their humanitarian efforts in the area...."

Lancasterclaret......

."...She was talking to the IDF because they run hospitals and refugee camps in the Golan Heights..."

oy vey

1..Syrian refugee crisis: How different countries have responded

Israel

Despite its proximity and high level of economic development, Israel has refused to take any Syrian refugees. “We will not allow Israel to be submerged by a wave of illegal migrants and terrorist activists,” Benjamin Netanyahu has said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2..Rare footage shows IDF soldiers saving life of Syrian rebel on Golan Heights

"Many of the wounded Syrians recently arriving to Israel in search of medical care belong to Islamic extremist groups,.."

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3..Netanyahu visiting his Syrian terrorist in hospital

"...An Israeli commander has admitted that the Israeli military is in contact with the foreign-backed militant and terrorist groups inside Syria.

The Israeli commander said the militants provide Israeli intelligence officials with information on the identity and medical condition of the wounded militants.

Some reports say hundreds of al-Qaeda-linked terrorists have received treatment in Israeli hospitals.

Most of them have returned to Syria, where they fight government forces..."

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BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:28 pm

To spend more time on babestation

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:34 pm

Penny mordant things are looking up

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:35 pm

Rowls wrote:What have I posted that is not "PC"?

Pretty being under the next pm pretty non PC if you ask me

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:44 pm

brexit wrote:Not happy with this. This leaves justine greening as the only bangable minister on the government front benches. Where has all the eye candy gone/

hampsteadclaret wrote:Not very PC there brexit....disappointing - even worse for you, I believe that the delectable Justine bats for the other team

Just because she may bat for the other team doesn't mean her looks cannot be admired by some politician loving heterosexual males though.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:59 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I’ve got no sympathy for May and her cronies. A walking disaster.

The country voted for Brexit.

The real truth is that just over half voted for leaving the EU. Just under half voted to stay in the EU. I am not persuaded that such a narrow vote with so many Little Englanders, should actually be worth the effort to leave.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:48 pm

Fans of Justine Greening can watch her on Question Time now.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:51 pm

Cheers for that blue

I'm sure that rebel fighters are getting medical help when wounded at refugee camps in Israel, but also that thousands of innocents are as well.

Up to you like, but your attempts to make points are completely destroyed by the fact that you assume everyone only reads the same websites as you do, or are incapable of looking stuff up for themselves.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:45 am

IanMcL wrote:The real truth is that just over half voted for leaving the EU. Just under half voted to stay in the EU. I am not persuaded that such a narrow vote with so many Little Englanders, should actually be worth the effort to leave.

BINGO!!!

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:26 am

IanMcL wrote:The real truth is that just over half voted for leaving the EU. Just under half voted to stay in the EU. I am not persuaded that such a narrow vote with so many Little Englanders, should actually be worth the effort to leave.

As I said that’s a different argument to be had and one that’s been done to death.
The way they have dealt with the result of the referendum has been shambolic.